So tired of all this negativity on here. Are there any PTs left on here who love their jobs?

[dptstudent2018!]

If you want more money, become more valuable. Pick up PRN. I'm all for advocating for increased salaries. I get that. But let's stop being so negative and whining on here. Come on guys. We're better than this.

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[jblil]

I am not sure I understand your "whining" comment. IMO all the back-and-forth over the past few days boils down to this: go into this field with open eyes, and don't borrow too much to get the degree. I'd expect folks who are "doctor"-caliber to have the mental horsepower to discern hyperbole from facts, and to be able to use critical thinking when planning their future.

Hah, that was post #1,000 for me...

 

[truthseeker]

I do even after, gulp, 25 years

 

[Bluecase]

I do- also knew about everything going in (salary, debt, etc....). If you find a place you are happy at you can be very happy. If not, keep looking for a place that makes you happy. Also, the haters usually aren't PTs. They're the ones doing the "defense" of the profession.


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[Bluecase]

That made no sense- the PTs are usually defending the talk from the "haters"


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[NewTestament]

There's bad PT jobs and good PT jobs. Choose one you like. It's no different from any other profession.

 

[jadedphysiotherapist]

If you want more money, become more valuable. Pick up PRN. I'm all for advocating for increased salaries. I get that. But let's stop being so negative and whining on here. Come on guys. We're better than this.

...if you think this is negative.........then head on over to the pharmacy or dental forums. Careful you might not make it back

 

[futurePT2017]

All of the PTs I came across in my observations loved their jobs. They had some gripes, sure, but they were satisfied with their profession overall. Of course there are terrible jobs out there and it makes sense that people stuck in them would come to the internet to vent. And of course there are people who will feel they made a mistake. This feeling is only exacerbated when you are deep in debt and feel that you have no way out. But just remember that, for the most part, people who are satisfied with their jobs don't come to internet forums.

 

[pegasuscvc]

In a word, yes. I only graduated last year and started my job in June, but I still love it.

 

[DrHomieKwan]

All of the PTs I came across in my observations loved their jobs. They had some gripes, sure, but they were satisfied with their profession overall. Of course there are terrible jobs out there and it makes sense that people stuck in them would come to the internet to vent. And of course there are people who will feel they made a mistake. This feeling is only exacerbated when you are deep in debt and feel that you have no way out. But just remember that, for the most part, people who are satisfied with their jobs don't come to internet forums.

Totally Agree. When I was being 'negative' 4-5 months ago enrolled in an orthopedic specialty residency and debating if I can see myself do this job for another 30 years I checked out forums to see how other PTs were coping or loving their job. Many kept it real and maybe 1 exception LOVED it. I work with many PTs that love their job and that makes me happy. It also made me realize I needed to get out because I was not happy.

 

[jadedphysiotherapist]

You should learn from your mistakes. You were telling us the same bullcrap that your area will not be saturated in the pharmacy field. What happened? OOOPS...

Unless you actually do something or have something new to report, how about stop sounding like a broken record?

In addition until we have a change in the law, any balance from IBR, REPAYE, etc will be considered taxable income.

Totally Agree. When I was being 'negative' 4-5 months ago enrolled in an orthopedic specialty residency and debating if I can see myself do this job for another 30 years I checked out forums to see how other PTs were coping or loving their job. Many kept it real and maybe 1 exception LOVED it. I work with many PTs that love their job and that makes me happy. It also made me realize I needed to get out because I was not happy.

What was the structure of your residency
I.e. Clinical hours, mentor hours, EBP evidence integrations, continuing education, productivity, and of course...pay. Did it give you a better pattern recognition and workflow and help you learn how to sell PT to patients better as opposed to just coming out of school. One of the biggest things in therapy is that one session does not get you better and it is a progression...sometimes frustrating. Learning how to sell that better gets better outcomes, better rep for your clinic for population influx, and may become traceable through analytics for presentation to CMS and insurance comapanies.

Sorry, just really interested in how many are structured.

 

[DrHomieKwan]

What was the structure of your residency
I.e. Clinical hours, mentor hours, EBP evidence integrations, continuing education, productivity, and of course...pay. Did it give you a better pattern recognition and workflow and help you learn how to sell PT to patients better as opposed to just coming out of school. One of the biggest things in therapy is that one session does not get you better and it is a progression...sometimes frustrating. Learning how to sell that better gets better outcomes, better rep for your clinic for population influx, and may become traceable through analytics for presentation to CMS and insurance comapanies.

Sorry, just really interested in how many are structured.

12 month program. 4 quarterly units: cervical, UE, lumbar, LE + dry needling. 150 clinical mentor hours required. Every week was a different topic within the course that required reading of evidence based articles, answering questions posed by instructors and response to colleagues responses to create a discussion. Within each course would be a group project usually asking to create a clinical treatment pattern for a specific diagnosis based on evidence. A grand round is performed once during the residency where you choose a specific patient of yours and outline their care and progress in power point online presentation. This was very beneficial as you get to trace your thinking to see if it led to the most appropriate diagnosis and treatment. I definitely saw value in my OCS program in becoming a more evidenced based practictioner that was also thorough in detecting non-musculoskletal issues that MDs may have missed. Since this OCS program was offered through my company I was able to work 38 hours and then allot an extra 4 hours to being at a mentor clinic . We also had to track each patient type (cervical, hip, etc) each month. I learnt the most from the 1:1 mentor hours. The cost of the program is about 15,000 but I would only pay 1/3 if I promise to stick with company for 2 extra years afterwards (which I didn't).

 

[jadedphysiotherapist]

12 month program. 4 quarterly units: cervical, UE, lumbar, LE + dry needling. 150 clinical mentor hours required. Every week was a different topic within the course that required reading of evidence based articles, answering questions posed by instructors and response to colleagues responses to create a discussion. Within each course would be a group project usually asking to create a clinical treatment pattern for a specific diagnosis based on evidence. A grand round is performed once during the residency where you choose a specific patient of yours and outline their care and progress in power point online presentation. This was very beneficial as you get to trace your thinking to see if it led to the most appropriate diagnosis and treatment. I definitely saw value in my OCS program in becoming a more evidenced based practictioner that was also thorough in detecting non-musculoskletal issues that MDs may have missed. Since this OCS program was offered through my company I was able to work 38 hours and then allot an extra 4 hours to being at a mentor clinic . We also had to track each patient type (cervical, hip, etc) each month. I learnt the most from the 1:1 mentor hours. The cost of the program is about 15,000 but I would only pay 1/3 if I promise to stick with company for 2 extra years afterwards (which I didn't).

That actually sounds really good. It's not possible to track outcomes and continually reference updated literature in school. 5k for a company stay on isn't bad.Since you could net 38 regular hours was your pay scale able to balance out close to entry level? That would make the 1 year financial difference worth it as opposed to the 35k salary ones with 40 hrs clinical 20 hrs didactic, mentorship, extra sites etc. which you can't really afford to do unless your finances are stellar from in state, maybe supported directly by a spouse.

 

[DrHomieKwan]

That actually sounds really good. It's not possible to track outcomes and continually reference updated literature in school. 5k for a company stay on isn't bad.Since you could net 38 regular hours was your pay scale able to balance out close to entry level? That would make the 1 year financial difference worth it as opposed to the 35k salary ones with 40 hrs clinical 20 hrs didactic, mentorship, extra sites etc. which you can't really afford to do unless your finances are stellar from in state, maybe supported directly by a spouse.

$67,000 yearly salary. Roughly ~$1900 per 2 week pay check initially. Choosing to pay $5000 residency costs over one year reduced pay check to ~$1700-1800. I don't think my company adjusted for the 2 hours I didn't work which is great because I still treated patients during my 1:1 mentor hours. The company would also pay the $2000 to take the OCS exam. Benchmark PT

 

[jadedphysiotherapist]

$67,000 yearly salary. Roughly ~$1900 per 2 week pay check initially. Choosing to pay $5000 residency costs over one year reduced pay check to ~$1700-1800. I don't think my company adjusted for the 2 hours I didn't work which is great because I still treated patients during my 1:1 mentor hours. The company would also pay the $2000 to take the OCS exam. Benchmark PT

Bro! I would 100% do 60 hours per week for a year with that. That is astounding. Some excellent programs have pushed up to 55k at 32 clinic hrs. Residents did 60 with pubs, presentations, multisite (that was free work but whatever) rotation, and surgical sitins. That's one hundred percent how to incentivize programs before a specialist sit.

 

[DesertPT]

All of the PTs I came across in my observations loved their jobs. They had some gripes, sure, but they were satisfied with their profession overall. Of course there are terrible jobs out there and it makes sense that people stuck in them would come to the internet to vent. And of course there are people who will feel they made a mistake. This feeling is only exacerbated when you are deep in debt and feel that you have no way out. But just remember that, for the most part, people who are satisfied with their jobs don't come to internet forums.

TRUTH. What you read on internet message boards is not even remotely close to a representative sample of the population. The percentage of PTs who are miserable in real life is probably not even a tenth of what it is on the internet.

The internet can talk you out of literally any profession out their. Seek and ye shall find.