SGU vs AUC Comparison According to StudentAid.gov

[FarmerToDoctor]

For those considering AUC vs SGU, below I have provided some information regarding debt load, graduation rate, etc. Deciding to go the Caribbean for med school is a complex decision. This is just 1 piece of the puzzle. In making your decision, keep in mind the current situation SGU is in regarding accreditation compared to AUC. AUC is currently in good standing with ECFMG/WFME. For prospective students (Class 2025 and beyond), at this time SGU is not in good standing with ECFMG/WFME.

It is tough to gain an accurate estimation of the attrition rate at either of these programs from the data. But according to the US government, ~64% of US students complete their medical education on time at AUC; 77% of US students complete their medical education on time at SGU.

https://studentaid.gov/sites/default/files/american-university-caribbean.pdf

https://studentaid.gov/sites/default/files/st-georges-university-school-medicine.pdf

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[the argus]

It is tough to gain an accurate estimation of the attrition rate at either of these programs from the data. But according to the US government, ~64% of US students complete their medical education on time at AUC; 77% of US students complete their medical education on time at SGU.

The "finish on time" argument is tricky when it comes to AUC (and Ross). Both schools start new matriculants 3 times per year. Only people that start in the fall semester are "on track" when it comes to applying for and starting residency in the US.

People that start during the other 2 times must either accelerate, which is extremely difficult to do, or extend their medical school in order to not have a large gap between when they finish school and start residency. Many students extend their clinical rotations, i.e. put in gaps between their rotations, in order to extend out their clinical years to get "on track" in terms of applying for residency. These people often take longer than 4 years to finish school, and hence do not "finish on time," but in reality did this for logistical issues rather than having to repeat, etc.

I started off track at Ross, did not extend my rotations, and therefore finished within 4 years but was then left with ~7 months between when I finished school and started residency. While it made traveling for residency interviews easy, it was very difficult to find a job for that time. There's really no job market for a medical degree without residency training.

 

[Splenda88]

For those considering AUC vs SGU, below I have provided some information regarding debt load, graduation rate, etc. Deciding to go the Caribbean for med school is a complex decision. This is just 1 piece of the puzzle. In making your decision, keep in mind the current situation SGU is in regarding accreditation compared to AUC. AUC is currently in good standing with ECFMG/WFME. For prospective students (Class 2025 and beyond), at this time SGU is not in good standing with ECFMG/WFME.

It is tough to gain an accurate estimation of the attrition rate at either of these programs from the data. But according to the US government, ~64% of US students complete their medical education on time at AUC; 77% of US students complete their medical education on time at SGU.

https://studentaid.gov/sites/default/files/american-university-caribbean.pdf

https://studentaid.gov/sites/default/files/st-georges-university-school-medicine.pdf

They aren't the best attrition rate but they are not atrocious as SDN would make people believe...

 

[Osminog]

They aren't the best attrition rate but they are not atrocious as SDN would make people believe...

Those aren’t the attrition rates. Those are the percentages of students who graduate on time out of the students who graduate.

 

[FarmerToDoctor]

Those aren’t the attrition rates. Those are the percentages of students who graduate on time out of the students who graduate.

That’s not what the data states

 

[Osminog]

That’s not what the data states

The tables in the links you shared in your original post don’t include data on students who didn’t graduate. The percentages are based on the number out students who graduated on time out of total number of students who graduated. Read what the tables say.

If you have data on the attrition rates of these schools, feel free to post some links. So far, all we know is that ~1/3 of the people who are lucky enough to survive on the island aren’t able to graduate on time.

 

[deleted1082375]

please don't even apply to these schools.

 

[Gambino.]

It doesn't matter which school you attend. Both ROSS and AUC are owned by a Global corporation called Adtalem who also own Devry and several other liberal institutions. The CEO of Adtalem is Lisa Warden (look her up). She has a passionate hatred towards white people and USA. She will force her deans to email you to tell you how racist you are, how racist America is, and encourage you to read books about your white privilege, white fragility, and inherent racism. She will empower and embrace the asiam, black, and latino medical student associations to ally together in pure hatred towards its white students. Don't ask to form a white student union if you feel sad that everyone been calling you a racist for the past year because having a white student union is racist even if the other student associations have allied against you.

I've been at Ross a while now and have never once had any emails or required meetings about being anti-white and whatnot. We have had an inclusion council formed after the George Floyd incident but it isn't limited to a single race. The way you've phrased your run-off rant makes it seem like you are bigoted, coming from a non-minority...

Please feel free to bash the schools regarding the classes and ethical ambiguities about Carib schools but this whole anti-white thing is hilarious to read and definitely makes you come across as the entire reason these minority associations exist in the first place.