MCAT RAFFLE ITEM: 1) Berkeley Review Home-Study Book set 2) Berkeley Review CBT exams

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Up for raffle are TWO items:

  • (1) A full set of the Berkeley Review home-study books. In the event you plan to take our classroom course, the book set can be used as a $295 credit towards the cost of the course.
  • (2) A set of seven CBT exams for a duration of at least 45 days. In the event you plan to take our classroom course, the exam collection can be used as a $200 credit towards the cost of the course.

For details on how to win either of the above raffles, consult the guidelines listed under the general thread for Test Prep Week 2011

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Just for clarification, does the full set of books include all of the home study books listed on website? (biology 1&2, chemistry 1&2 etc...).
 
My question is regarding the CBT exams: Will the time period (at least 45 days) begin once the prize is claimed or at some other time?
 
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2 questions I have:

1) Are there plans for a 3rd phase in the next set of BR Physics books?

2) Are there other ways of obtaining (purchasing) the in-class passage sets and such? Add'l practice materials and the like?
 
Your post said "at least" 45 days, so is there a way to extend this time period?
 
Just for clarification, does the full set of books include all of the home study books listed on website? (biology 1&2, chemistry 1&2 etc...).

The full set in this auction includes Biology books I and II, General Chemistry books I and II, Organic Chemistry books I and II, Physics books I and II, Verbal Reasoning, and the Writing book.

My question is regarding the CBT exams: Will the time period (at least 45 days) begin once the prize is claimed or at some other time?

The period of time will be from the date you request to start until the first automatic shut off date scheduled after the 45 day mark. I know that sound a little ambiguous, but let's say you asked to start on April 1, meaning 45 days would go until May 15. The next automatic shutoff date is May 26, so that would be the date your account would be deactivated. The CBTs must be used during the 2011 MCAT season, so the account can be activated no later than July 27, 2011.

2 questions I have:

1) Are there plans for a 3rd phase in the next set of BR Physics books?

2) Are there other ways of obtaining (purchasing) the in-class passage sets and such? Add'l practice materials and the like?

There are plans, which are actually in motion. The 3rd phase will consist of either four passages and some free-standing questions or five passages, depending on the section. Some of the passages slated for Phase 3 are currently being used in the course and once they have been revamped and ran through a beta run one more time, they will become part of the books. It will be similar to the latest biology book, which has a summary exam at the end.

At this time there are no plans to sell the in-class materials, given that those change with every new administration of the course. There are plans to add several sectional practice exams to the on-line portion of the course. Once we have enough CBT data points from those exams, the best of those summary exams will be available for homestudy. I know it's lame to have no time estimate, but assuming there will be some passages thrown out at the different stages of development, it will take a couple cycles before it will be ready.

Your post said "at least" 45 days, so is there a way to extend this time period?

As I mentioned in a response above, the time period goes until the first automatic shutoff date after 45 days following the user's requested start date. The philosophy behind the time window is to encourage students to not use the exams as standard study material, but to only take them once they feel ready. More than six weeks should be plenty of time to take and thoroughly review three to seven CBT exams. This will hopefully motivate you to stick tightly to a practice schedule.

How do your CBTs compare to the actual MCAT? Are they a reliable predictor of real MCAT performance?

I really appreciate your question. In addition to my input, you should also search for threads over the past few years on CBTs. Our exams are considered harder than AAMC practice exams and a great silumation of the difficulty, randomness, and variety of topics found on the typical MCAT.

As far as predicting an actual MCAT score, threads here at SDN show that they are about the same as AAMC practice exams. That is to say, your scores will likely fluctuate over a four to seven point range, and your actual MCAT score will fit into that range about 90% of the time. Because of the randomness factor of the MCAT, no single exam (AAMC included) can ever be an ideal indicator (because topics vary so much from exam to exam). But the collective set of scores can be helpful in predicting how you'll do. Our curves seem generous on many of our more difficult sections, but they are surprisingly good.
 
Do you have plans to update the CBT's or add cbt8 anytime soon? I understand the the exam is constantly changing like replacing parts of ochem with more bio. Are the CBT's updated regularly or have they been the same since release a few years ago?
 
Have there been any recent update/s to the home-study books in comparison to last year?

Yes. Physics is new and improved (sounds like a laundry detergent) as of November 2010. It has several new passages, includes more questions than before, has answer explanations to the B-questions (as well as the A-question) in the text, has several new test startegies incorporated into the text and answer explanations (especially in terms of math and), has a vastly improved electrostatics and magnetism chapter, has an incredibly simple and brilliant approach to fluids and lenses/mirrors, and basically is an easier book to use. The reviews for the new physics book have been through the roof, and the printing that was suppose to last until September 2011 is on pace to be completely bought out by April because it's been so popular.

Also, the two biology books now contain practice exams at the end (thus they are larger because of the additional passages and answers).

Do you have plans to update the CBT's or add cbt8 anytime soon? I understand the the exam is constantly changing like replacing parts of ochem with more bio. Are the CBT's updated regularly or have they been the same since release a few years ago?

Yes. There actually is a CBT 8 and CBT 9, but they are currently only available to students in our lecture course. There are three additional exams that we rotate through the system, although the last content change/modification was in early 2010. Right now most of our CBT work has been on the programming end in an effort to stay compatible with IE, Firefox, and Safari.
 
For the April revision, do you mean that that chem bio and verbal are all getting updated or only a certain one? If I plan on using BR material starting mid May, should I wait for these changes?
 
For the April revision, do you mean that that chem bio and verbal are all getting updated or only a certain one? If I plan on using BR material starting mid May, should I wait for these changes?

I meant just the physics printing. When a new book is released, they do a small printing to make sure it's all good to go. The plan was to have enough to get through September 2011 based on last year's orders. The physcs book has been in such high demand the first three months out, that there's a good chance they'll be done by April. New physics will be printed, but without any significant changes except for some minor typos being corrected.

General chemistry is due to change in 2012 (I'm leaving it ambiguous, because if you look at last years TPW thread you'll see I stuck my foot in my mouth based on what my boss told me in terms of the timeline for releasing the physics book).

So to answer your question, there's no point to waiting.
 
I would love love love to enroll in The Berkely Review course. (From what I hear) The course is superb and the owners are always very helpful. Unfortunately, because I'm located on the opposite side of the country, the chances of me enrolling is slim to none. Have the owners ever considered making their classroom content and lectures available online to out-of-staters like me. Perhaps they could include a membership fee of some sort as well. I think this would be extremely beneficial for future test takers. Also, has there been any discussion to expand the company in the future to other states?

And finally, my last question is regarding the ordering system (which seems very ancient by the way :p) Will an online payment system be included in the near-future? If so, do you have any idea when?

Thanks for your time :)
 
I would love love love to enroll in The Berkely Review course. (From what I hear) The course is superb and the owners are always very helpful. Unfortunately, because I'm located on the opposite side of the country, the chances of me enrolling is slim to none. Have the owners ever considered making their classroom content and lectures available online to out-of-staters like me. Perhaps they could include a membership fee of some sort as well. I think this would be extremely beneficial for future test takers. Also, has there been any discussion to expand the company in the future to other states?

And finally, my last question is regarding the ordering system (which seems very ancient by the way :p) Will an online payment system be included in the near-future? If so, do you have any idea when?

Thanks for your time :)

In 1995, BR expanded to UW and U Michigan, which gave it seven locations total (San Diego and Davis were up and running then). The expansion taught a valuable lesson that with live instruction that counts on face-to-face interaction and depends on amazing teachers, it's next to impossible to expand. It's just not a formula that translates into a bulk model, becuse with our style of teaching and our approach to the MCAT it's hard to find the perfect teacher to do it. They scaled back in size and have been content with running just three to four centers.

On-line classes have been discussed, but in a small in-house trial run, it was a disaster. The student feedback streaming was delayed just enough to create awkward silences and questions that were late by just enough to throw the lecture continuity off. Live on-line classes, in our opinion, don't work very well. Even with the absolute state of the art systems, when you try to add too many feeds into the system, there is discontinuity. It's like on-line gaming when too many people join. You can't have any more than three to four people in a live video chat of this caliber. Also, a big part of teaching is reading the facial expressions and class mood, which is lost when it's not live instruction. You might as well have video clips and give up any attempt at live on-line. Many of Todd's lectures have been recorded, but those will likely stay buried.

In 1996, the owners opted to reduce down to just California centers and not over-strtech the staff. Selling books for home study usage was not introduced until 2003.

And as for the website (vintage 1997), the webmaster (and part owner) has been promising upgrades but at the end of the day just doesn't want to change it. All of the online efforts for the past five to six years have been on the exams, which use a completely different host btw. An online payment service has supposedly been in the works for a few years now, but if you ask me (and this is just my opinion) they don't have an interest in becoming a big company. The major companies have made attempts to buy Berkeley Review on a few occasions, and it came down to BR not wanting to sell. They are people who like running a small business, which as foolish as it may seem to people with big business in their blood, it works.
 
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Up for raffle are TWO items:

  • (1) A full set of the Berkeley Review home-study books. In the event you plan to take our classroom course, the book set can be used as a $295 credit towards the cost of the course.
  • (2) A set of seven CBT exams for a duration of at least 45 days. In the event you plan to take our classroom course, the exam collection can be used as a $200 credit towards the cost of the course.

For details on how to win either of the above raffles, consult the guidelines listed under the general thread for Test Prep Week 2011

just out of curiosity, do you offer classroom courses in Boston?
 
How much more effective are your products as compared to other review sets?
 
Up for raffle are TWO items:


  • (1) A full set of the Berkeley Review home-study books. In the event you plan to take our classroom course, the book set can be used as a $295 credit towards the cost of the course.

  • (2) A set of seven CBT exams for a duration of at least 45 days. In the event you plan to take our classroom course, the exam collection can be used as a $200 credit towards the cost of the course.

For details on how to win either of the above raffles, consult the guidelines listed under the general thread for Test Prep Week 2011
What do you mean by at least 45 days? Do you lose access to them at some point?
 
I bought the CBTs last year and i called and spoke to them and they pushed they extended the expiration. Unfortunately, i didn't use it because i knew i was going to need it this year:oops:. Once activated though, they can't deactivated and reactivate again if you choose to take your exam the next year.

Hope i win.....:)

Your post said "at least" 45 days, so is there a way to extend this time period?
 
Great books for content review and practice especially if you're like me who's been away from the material for 8years. Their material is in-depth and covers all the basics and more. They have tons of practice passages at the end of each chapter.

How much more effective are your products as compared to other review sets?
 
Question: are the phase 1 and 2 passages in the book comparable to the real difficulty of the MCAT passages or are they harder/easier?

Thanks!
 
How would you recommend spacing out the CBTs? Is one day in between sufficient enough for reviewing the CBT, or would you recommend two days in between?
 
How long before starting studying for the MCAT should someone who lives in the east coast order the Home Study package?
 
Question about the course: I've heard great reviews about TBR program and was wondering if there are any courses offered in San Diego. I've looked at the website and it says under construction. When do you suggest a student start taking the TBR program? Also, do you have any sort of guarantee to the program?

Question about the book: Is it detail-oriented or short and to the point? I'm more of a detail-oriented person and find that long explanations work for me better.

Question about the CBT exams: do I have to use it right away or can I delay it for a couple of months until I'm ready to take it?

Sorry for asking too much questions.. :oops:
Thanks! :thumbup:
 
To answer a question or two posted here regarding the effctivity of BR books. I will start by saying that even though i have not taken the MCAT yet i can tell you that my grasp of the topics has increased dramatically. I have been out of school for several years (aprox. 9) and these book helped me remember and understand (in occasions better) the topics as well as develop test intuition. This is work in progress since I am almost done with my content review and will be taking the test in April but so far, a great experience.
 
just out of curiosity, do you offer classroom courses in Boston?

No we do not. For a complete list of the massive number of locations we operate (three), click on this link.

How much more effective are your products as compared to other review sets?

Your question could get the generic one sentence answer or a detailed reply that could take ten to fifteen pages. I'll stay to the less is more philosophy here. To do well at the MCAT, there really are only two things you need to. First, practice with plenty of realistic passages. Second, review those passages in detail as you read through the answer explanations and make adjustments to either your test-taking skills or you knowledge base to assure that you'll get questions like those correct in the future.

Our materials are built with those two ideas in mind. Our books come with more passages than anything else on the market, BY FAR! Our explanations are detailed, often explaining a question from a straight-forward use your information to find a right answer mentality as well as a POE (process of elimination) mentality that applies several test-taking strategies. Our answer explanations are second to none.

That said, might I suggest you take advantage of some of the other forums at SDN to read about materials. You'll find that the majority of older posters here will suggest using a mixture of different materials. During this week, I endorse just one product. But the reality is that there are several great materials out there, and we are a part of a package that includes materials from three to four vendors.

What do you mean by at least 45 days? Do you lose access to them at some point?

The accounts are set up to be open for a minimum of 45 days and likely around 50 days. Access is lost at some point. You can change that opening date if you feel it is necessary, but by having a window of usage time, it forces a test taker to use the exams seriously and not waste them by using them like a practice book. Why would anyone need to access practice exams longer than 45 days? If the answer is because you postponed your exam, then postpone your access window too. But if the answer is because you want to do one exam early as a diagnostic exam, it's not a good move. We as a company completely disagree with the utility of starting with an exam and feel that diagnostic exams are misleading.

Here is a blurp from another post that explains this philosophy:

  • An effective plan starts with honestly assessing what YOU need. Not all of us come from the same educational background, have the same intuition and logic, and pick up concepts at the same rate. Knowing yourself is the first step to establishing the perfect study plan. Counting on a diagnostic exam to determine your strengths and weaknesses is crazy, yet many people do this. For an exam to be truly diagnostic of all of the concepts, equations, and terms on the two science sections of the MCAT would require well over a thousand questions. The other problem with diagnostic exams is that we often miss questions on material we know (and know well) because of the style of the question, not the content. The result is that diagnostic feedback based on one or two questions in a subject area is misleading. Lucky guessing or low question difficulty could give you a false sense of understanding in a trouble spot as much as a careless error or high question difficulty could give you a false sense of need in a strong subject. The bottom line is that you need to assess your abilities, because you know yourself better than anyone. No matter what the one question involving a titration curve on a commercial diagnostic exam tells you about your understanding of titrations (either you know it 100% or 0%), you know best whether or not you know that subject well.

    So rather than starting with an exam, start with either the table of contents in the review books or the list of topics from the Official MCAT Guideline released by AAMC. Go through the lists for each subject topic-by-topic and identify areas that have traditionally bothered you, decide how much content review you need (most students overestimate this), consider how good you are at multiple-choice exams, and figure out how well you learn from doing practice exams. From there you can layout a personalized schedule.
 
Question: are the phase 1 and 2 passages in the book comparable to the real difficulty of the MCAT passages or are they harder/easier?

Thanks!

Phase I are typical not realistic, not because of difficulty though. These questions are all (or close to all) coming from one basic theme or topic, where the MCAT mixing things up in their passages. These are meant to review and relearn information. And yes, they are generally difficult, because when you miss them, the answer explanations are there to teach a mnemonic or strategy to use on future questions (in phase II and phase III).

Phase II is meant to incorporate a few more outside (but related) concepts as well as stress you for time. The purpose of Phase II is to develop good timing and to apply the tricks you learned in Phase I.

Phase III is all about the realism of mixing random topics and presenting some bizarre and quirky experiments and applications.

How would you recommend spacing out the CBTs? Is one day in between sufficient enough for reviewing the CBT, or would you recommend two days in between?

This really comes down to you and your schedule. Personally, I think two days between exams is a good idea if possible, but sometimes a person's schedule just doesn't fit that plan.

If I had an open schedule, I'd take a test and the grade it right afterwards. I'd look at the questions I missed without reading the answer explanations and try those again. I'd make an error log that simply designates the error as careless (and what the carelessness was) or content base (I missed it because I didn't know the material). I'd give myself the night to digest the exam in my mind, because that is where your knowledge really grows. Let it perculate a bit. The next day, I would read through the answer explanations (for every question, whether I got it right and wrong). I'd add to my error log the equations to terms I needed. On the third day, I'd go back to troublesome questions (not necessarily ones I got wrong, but ones that I got right feeling insecure or got wrong for a reason other than brain-farting). I'd rewrite those questions and answer choices. I'd spend the next few hours reviewing material and doing passages from my regular study materials. Later that day, I'd try the questions I wrote that morning. This will be tiring, but amazingly helpful.

Then, I'd start the entire three-day process over again.

How long before starting studying for the MCAT should someone who lives in the east coast order the Home Study package?

Great question. The short answer is two weeks if your are paying by credt card or money order and four weeks if paying by personal check.

Let me start my longer answer by apologizing for our archaic system and explaining the timing. There is the mail runner, who collects mail at 1:30 or so each day. When he returns, the process of boxing books and making labels begins. If the number of orders are typical that day, then he'll finish by 3:00 and the shipment goes out that day to FedEx. Any orders paid for by check are placed in the ten day hold pile. Money order and credit card orders go out the same day if possible (on busy days they may go out the next day). Problems that cause delays come into play in a few ways. First, Mondays are really busy (two days of mail come those days), so it's usually a case where only some orders go out the same day. Second, there are two post offices in Berkeley, and the Berkeley Review PO Box is at the secondary post office. This adds a day (maybe two) to standard mail getting to our box (priority mail is handled faster). Lastly, there is the FedEx timing factor. Their last pickup is around 3:30 in the afternoon, but due to variation in how busy they are, it's a moving target. From time to time, we miss their pickup for that day and it sits.

So there is a bit of luck involved in the timing. If you hit it just right, then your order could be on its way to you two to three days after you mailed it. If you hit it wrong, then it will take longer. Also, during the holiday season, the sweatshop shuts down and the workers have been known to take a day off here and there.
 
Asking for CBT only:

With the CBT, how much have the TBR exams undergone changes in recent years? I know that the books have constantly been revised, and as someone who used old TBR books on the first time and the new one now, there are definitely differences. But what about CBT? Have the questions been revised to reflect the topics emphasized in the recent MCAT (i.e. very integrative and less on rote memorization)?
 
Question about the course: I've heard great reviews about TBR program and was wondering if there are any courses offered in San Diego. I've looked at the website and it says under construction. When do you suggest a student start taking the TBR program? Also, do you have any sort of guarantee to the program?

Question about the book: Is it detail-oriented or short and to the point? I'm more of a detail-oriented person and find that long explanations work for me better.

Question about the CBT exams: do I have to use it right away or can I delay it for a couple of months until I'm ready to take it?

Sorry for asking too much questions.. :oops:
Thanks! :thumbup:

San Diego is the one location we would love to do again. When we ran it (we had a class there in Summer 1996 and Summer 1998), we had a teaching staff (including the owners) who could take the time to teach classes there. The problem with MCAT classes nowadays is that students in our current areas do not evenly spread themselves between the exam dates, so our lecture courses are scheduled in a way that targets early April and early August. We could potentially do a class in San Diego that aims for September MCAT dates, but there are no plans at this time. You could call the main office and speak with Elliot, because he keeps track of such inquiries.

Our policy on guarantees changed a few years back. Quite honestly, we responded in a kneejerk fashion to a corporate program making that the focal point of their advertising campaign. We offered a similar guarantee, fitting it to our course, because what we do is so unique. At the end of the first year of having the guarantee, we looked at the number of students who met the requirements (go to at least five office hours, attend 95% of the classes, do 90% of the homework, and take all of the scheduled practice exams) and it ended up being less than 10% of the students who qualified. It became clear we were simply offering an advertising gimmick. Only one student (out of over 700) asked to collect on the guarantee, and whether or not the guarantee was in place, we were going to go out of our way to help him out anyway (he had some severely bad luck leading up to test day). In the end, we realized we had gone against our nature with an advertsing gimmick. We are a small company and because our owners teach the class, students can speak with corporate executives anytime they want to work out their needs. We simply returned to a do things right approach and have done that since. So if you have a concern and want a guarantee, talk to us.

The books amount of details depend on the topic. Every chapter has a large amount of practice passages and practice questions, but the amount and depth of the text varies with subject. For a section like Work and Energy in physics for instance, there isn't much to that topic so we do a great number of examples and sample questions. But for a chapter like electrochemistry, which is heavily tested and traditionally a trouble spot for students, we go into a good amount of detail.

You choose your 45-day window for your CBTs when you order them. It's up to you.
 
Great books for content review and practice especially if you're like me who's been away from the material for 8years. Their material is in-depth and covers all the basics and more. They have tons of practice passages at the end of each chapter.

Thank you so much for your support. I know how hard you work and can't tell you how much I've gleened from your posts. It's all about passages, but unfortunately for many students they don't realize this until they've wasted countless hours reading text on things they already know and doing a bunch of free-standing questions on a subject they are completely ready for. Anyone can hit well in a batting cage with a set speed. Passages toss curveballs at you, and that's what you need.

To answer a question or two posted here regarding the effctivity of BR books. I will start by saying that even though i have not taken the MCAT yet i can tell you that my grasp of the topics has increased dramatically. I have been out of school for several years (aprox. 9) and these book helped me remember and understand (in occasions better) the topics as well as develop test intuition. This is work in progress since I am almost done with my content review and will be taking the test in April but so far, a great experience.

Thank you so very much for your kind words and input. I can't tell you how much I hope your exam falls into place perfectly, not only for the self-serving purpose of feeling good on the coat tails of your success, but also because the world really needs doctors with your positive attitude.

To both of you, it's truly an honor to be a small part of your paths to being great physicians.
 
Asking for CBT only:

With the CBT, how much have the TBR exams undergone changes in recent years? I know that the books have constantly been revised, and as someone who used old TBR books on the first time and the new one now, there are definitely differences. But what about CBT? Have the questions been revised to reflect the topics emphasized in the recent MCAT (i.e. very integrative and less on rote memorization)?

Great question. The honest answer is that we've sat on our duffs since January of 2010. We made changes to the exams every Fall (2007, 2008, and 2009) to some extent (changed out a passage here and there, threw out some questions, and expanded some explanations). We actually have about eleven and a half exams worth of passages on that server but only nine CBTs at any given time (seven for home study and all nine for in-class).

Part of not changing this last Fall had to do with a focus on upgrading the system to be more compatible with multiple browsers (before it was Firefox pretty much exclusively) and part was the realization that we had arrived at the place we wanted to be with our exams. Our tests have a full range of passages now, from easy to hard, weird to completely predictable, and straight-forward to wild mixtures of topics. Students last year said they felt quite prepared for the exam, so based on that feedback we decided to sit out this cycle of change.

The great thing about the people at AAMC is that they've written an exam that rewards thinking and only to a small extent a large knowledge base. It's an excellent exam, that you can't study for in traditional ways. If you read the AAMC's Official Guide to the MCAT, it says it as plain as day. That is an absolutely fabulous book that EVERYONE should get. It demistifies the exam by presenting an honest perspective of exactly what the test is about. We completely trust their wisdom.
 
Do the Berkley Review CBTs provide detailed content analysis, similar to the AAMC practice tests, to help identify weak areas for review?
 
Just a few questions: How reliable are scores from the TBR CBTs in relation to the AAMC practice tests when trying to judge if one is realistically in the range of one's target score? Also, do the home study books have practice passages/questions for each topic or series of topics?
 
Do the Berkley Review CBTs provide detailed content analysis, similar to the AAMC practice tests, to help identify weak areas for review?

Not at all. We stopped using exams to identify weak areas years ago, because it was causing our students to panic and focus in areas they shouldn't have focused. Often times students would get a question incorrect (like a graph question for instance) not because they didn't know the topic, but because they didn't read the axis right. So they'd get feedback that they didn't know the material when in fact they did. What we count on is the best feedback system around, and that's the test taker. Only you know why you missed a question, and whether you know the material well. That's where the answer explanation becomes huge.

What our exams provide better than anyone is detailed answer explanations that include tips on either the material, test taking strategies, or both. So rather than you concluding from a missed question that you don't know buoyancy well and then you going back to your review text to read more about buoyancy, our answer explanation talks about buoyancy, relevent concepts and equations, and then addresses how to answer the question time efficiently. There is then no need to go back to your study materials unless you failed to recognize the terminology in the question and answer explanation.

The score reports are a pretty gimmick, but when you think about it, wouldn't it be far more time efficient to have an answer explantion that fills any gaps you may have than simply telling you that you have a gap?

Just a few questions: How reliable are scores from the TBR CBTs in relation to the AAMC practice tests when trying to judge if one is realistically in the range of one's target score? Also, do the home study books have practice passages/questions for each topic or series of topics?

The scores are quite reliable. If you look about twenty-six posts above this one (#7 I believe), you'll be able to read my response to a similar question in terms of the score ranges.

The books have between ten and fifteen passages per section, all with a range of question types and difficulties and highly detailed explanations that address both the material and the testing strategies you'll need. For more details, look at this thread. It's in the same forum as this raffle post.
 
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I have a question regarding the textbooks. I know many people who love TBR and I was considering getting the books but then stopped because I began using other material from a different company.

I feel like it's a good amount of content review, but there aren't enough passages to apply the information. I've used up what I have from the last time taking the mcat. So I don't have much left except for a few passages here and there. How many passages would you say the TBR comes with compared to other companies?

Thanks for your help BRT! :)
 
  • An effective plan starts with honestly assessing what YOU need. Not all of us come from the same educational background, have the same intuition and logic, and pick up concepts at the same rate. Knowing yourself is the first step to establishing the perfect study plan. Counting on a diagnostic exam to determine your strengths and weaknesses is crazy, yet many people do this. For an exam to be truly diagnostic of all of the concepts, equations, and terms on the two science sections of the MCAT would require well over a thousand questions. The other problem with diagnostic exams is that we often miss questions on material we know (and know well) because of the style of the question, not the content. The result is that diagnostic feedback based on one or two questions in a subject area is misleading. Lucky guessing or low question difficulty could give you a false sense of understanding in a trouble spot as much as a careless error or high question difficulty could give you a false sense of need in a strong subject. The bottom line is that you need to assess your abilities, because you know yourself better than anyone. No matter what the one question involving a titration curve on a commercial diagnostic exam tells you about your understanding of titrations (either you know it 100% or 0%), you know best whether or not you know that subject well.

This is an interesting point, and one that I have to agree with (although I would love to be able to draw conclusions from my first practice test score!).

Would you consider the home-study materials appropriate for students who want to improve their performance in the pre-req courses as well as prepare for the MCAT?
 
I am not sure if this was already asked, but will the winner of the raffle be responsible for shipping and handling or is that free?
 
I have a question regarding the textbooks. I know many people who love TBR and I was considering getting the books but then stopped because I began using other material from a different company.

I feel like it's a good amount of content review, but there aren't enough passages to apply the information. I've used up what I have from the last time taking the mcat. So I don't have much left except for a few passages here and there. How many passages would you say the TBR comes with compared to other companies?

Thanks for your help BRT! :)

What makes our books quite different is that they are not textbooks, they are workbooks. They have review material, but it's integrated with several multiple-choice sample questions. You need mutiple-choice questions rarther than fill-in-the-blank questions. Our review section is followed by ten to fifteen passages at the end of every chapter (for the exact number in each book, consult this thread). Everything is contained in one book. I know most other companies have a separate textbook and question book. Because we are run by teachers, we have a very different philsophy to business and learning. That's an easy way to tell which books were designed and written by teachers as opposed to designed by a business manager and written by someone else.

So to answer your question, there are more passages in our books than the review books of any two companies combined. The other key point is that roughly 85% of our questions are associated with a passage, which is essential given that about 82% of the questions on the MCAT are associated with a passage.
 
Would you consider the home-study materials appropriate for students who want to improve their performance in the pre-req courses as well as prepare for the MCAT?

Yes and no. They can definitely help with your conceptual understanding and problem solving skills, but college classes are usually looking for the regurgitation of volumes of information. Our review books emphasize using logic and a small pool of concepts to answer multiple-choice questions. So while they will definitely help in understanding the concepts, they may not help prepare you for the professor's exam.
 
I am not sure if this was already asked, but will the winner of the raffle be responsible for shipping and handling or is that free?

That actually hasn't been asked yet, so thanks for an original question. Shipping is free. I never really understood what exactly the term "and handling" meant, but that's free too.
 
After reading your posts on the CBT's why is there a 45 day time limit to these exams? If you were to purchase the CBT's would it still be a 45 day time limit?


P.S. Does TBR's CBT package include any of the actual AAMC 3-11 practice exams like some of the other companies like Kaplan offer with their online practice products.


Thanks.
 
After reading your posts on the CBT's why is there a 45 day time limit to these exams? If you were to purchase the CBT's would it still be a 45 day time limit?

Your question has been asked in part already. Out of laziness on my part, rather than retype a response, you should read the relevent parts of replies #7, #25, and #26 in this thread.

P.S. Does TBR's CBT package include any of the actual AAMC 3-11 practice exams like some of the other companies like Kaplan offer with their online practice products.

No, our $100 to $200 CBT package does not include the seven AAMC practice exams included in Kaplan's $1749 online package. We figure students can buy AAMC exams 4, 5, and 7-11 on their own and not pay us a middleman fee. BTW, AAMC gives exam 3 away for free and exam 6 has been removed from their listing. So to buy all seven of our exams and the seven AAMC exams available from the AAMC website, you need only spend about $450.

BR has a different business philosophy and your comparison question has triggered some thoughts. In addition to not offering AAMC exams or a $1700+ online program, there isn't a tutoring program charging well over $100 per hour for private tutoring. Instead, BR has a small class with a ton of office hours included in the course cost (which ironically enough is cheaper than the online package you mentioned above.) If a student wants private one-on-one tutoring rather than the BR course, they work it out directly with a BR teacher or tutor, so that they don't have to pay some crazy $150 or so an hour for tutoring and the teacher can make all of the money without BR taking a cut for not doing any work. BR is a business no doubt, and their reason for existing is to both provide a service as well as make money. But hopefully there is a good balance.
 
How often are CBTs and the books updated. If, for instance, I got through all of them, I don't get in during my first application cycle and subsequently need to retest a couple of years later, will there be entirely new passages to look forward to or have I used up all of my resources? That applies more to the CBTs than the books.
 
How often are CBTs and the books updated. If, for instance, I got through all of them, I don't get in during my first application cycle and subsequently need to retest a couple of years later, will there be entirely new passages to look forward to or have I used up all of my resources? That applies more to the CBTs than the books.
I actually just asked BerkReviewTeach something similar to this through email.

For bio, there's a new copyright edition but the contents are similar as in 2004.

Physics is new as of 2010 and made many changes so just get the new one. This is important! :)

Chemistry, 2008 or later is fine.

Organic chemistry, huge changes since 2004 so try to get anything copyrighted after that year.

Verbal, 2008 or later are fine.

If you buy it this year and put it off for maybe a year or two, my guess is you're probably fine. There won't be so much changes in the books nor in actual MCAT.

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It seems people have already asked what I wanted to ask. Thanks BRTeach for such complete answers. I want to be in the raffle, but I honestly can't think of anything to ask and I don't want to be obvious by asking a question just answered a few posts earlier.

So I'll just ask, "do I have to ask a question to be in the auction?"
 
As someone who is somewhat unfamiliar with TBR books, can you explain the approach to teaching the content they take as opposed to other review books?

For example, I've seen books that have focused more on explaining concepts and teaching the information that might be covered on the MCAT, and others that are more similar to a collection of practice questions.

Where does TBR fall on this continuum, in your view?
 
I meant just the physics printing. When a new book is released, they do a small printing to make sure it's all good to go. The plan was to have enough to get through September 2011 based on last year's orders. The physcs book has been in such high demand the first three months out, that there's a good chance they'll be done by April. New physics will be printed, but without any significant changes except for some minor typos being corrected.

I'm a little confused. What happens if you run out of print? Are the students who register for the course guaranteed the new edition immediately upon beginning the session or might TBR run out of books (in which case I would buy it on my own now and have the cost attributed towards the course)???
 
If we take your classroom course, can we keep the books as well, more subsequent self-study?
 
Do you know the average MCAT score for TBR course students? Do you think that people who used the home-study materials are less prepared than those who took the course?
 
It became clear we were simply offering an advertising gimmick. Only one student (out of over 700) asked to collect on the guarantee, and whether or not the guarantee was in place, we were going to go out of our way to help him out anyway (he had some severely bad luck leading up to test day). In the end, we realized we had gone against our nature with an advertsing gimmick. We are a small company and because our owners teach the class, students can speak with corporate executives anytime they want to work out their needs. We simply returned to a do things right approach and have done that since. So if you have a concern and want a guarantee, talk to us.

I really have to commend you guys for having the such a wholesome approach to doing things. I can't help but feel like I am working with a moms and pops shop and that definitely means a higher trust/comnfort level.

Now realizing that you don't do guarantees and such, TBR website states that your students do better on average. Are there any statistical numbers that show how your students do compared to other programs??? And how much improvement there is by taking the course?
 
lol greathl21, you really want to win this don't you?
 
1.) The payment method for ordering TBR seems pretty arduous. Has Berkeley Review thought about PayPal?

2.) Verbal is definitely the most difficult section for most test-takers, like me, and there appears to be a consensus against TBR Verbal study material. I still would like to purchase the Verbal workbook and would like to know if it will be updated and improved any time soon.

Thank you for addressing all of our questions.
 
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