lol greathl21, you really want to win this don't you?
You mean I really wanna take TBR?!?!
lol greathl21, you really want to win this don't you?
Just a tip: I read from other people's post that the fastest way to order from TBR is to use money order. If you use check, it'll take a few days to clear. And if you use credit card, you'll be charged a fee. But if you're not in a hurry I would use a check so you can check if your bank has cleared the transaction.1.) The payment method for ordering TBR seems pretty arduous. Has Berkeley Review thought about PayPal?
How often are CBTs and the books updated. If, for instance, I got through all of them, I don't get in during my first application cycle and subsequently need to retest a couple of years later, will there be entirely new passages to look forward to or have I used up all of my resources? That applies more to the CBTs than the books.
It seems people have already asked what I wanted to ask. Thanks BRTeach for such complete answers. I want to be in the raffle, but I honestly can't think of anything to ask and I don't want to be obvious by asking a question just answered a few posts earlier.
So I'll just ask, "do I have to ask a question to be in the auction?"
The updates are inspired by the trends in the exam. However, with the MCAT set to change sometime in 2014 (maybe a year later.
As someone who is somewhat unfamiliar with TBR books, can you explain the approach to teaching the content they take as opposed to other review books?
For example, I've seen books that have focused more on explaining concepts and teaching the information that might be covered on the MCAT, and others that are more similar to a collection of practice questions.
Where does TBR fall on this continuum, in your view?
I'm a little confused. What happens if you run out of print? Are the students who register for the course guaranteed the new edition immediately upon beginning the session or might TBR run out of books (in which case I would buy it on my own now and have the cost attributed towards the course)???
If we take your classroom course, can we keep the books as well, more subsequent self-study?
Do you know the average MCAT score for TBR course students? Do you think that people who used the home-study materials are less prepared than those who took the course?
I really have to commend you guys for having the such a wholesome approach to doing things. I can't help but feel like I am working with a moms and pops shop and that definitely means a higher trust/comnfort level.
Now realizing that you don't do guarantees and such, TBR website states that your students do better on average. Are there any statistical numbers that show how your students do compared to other programs??? And how much improvement there is by taking the course?
1.) The payment method for ordering TBR seems pretty arduous. Has Berkeley Review thought about PayPal?
2.) Verbal is definitely the most difficult section for most test-takers, like me, and there appears to be a consensus against TBR Verbal study material. I still would like to purchase the Verbal workbook and would like to know if it will be updated and improved any time soon.
Thank you for addressing all of our questions.
Hi, my question is about your website design.
Although your books are excellent, your website design makes it difficult to order your books.
Are there any immediate plans to update your website?
There have been several mentions of office hours for the TBR prep course. What would happen if a student had a packed schedule and could not make the scheduled office hours? I'm assuming that the instructors have set hours each week that students can come in and ask for help. Is it easy to approach instructors to schedule an individual appointment that fits the student's schedule better? The reason I ask is that I would want to be able to ask for help should I need it, but I don't want to be hindered by my schedule.
As you know, based on this Forum, Berkeley Review is highly regarded. With respect to your competitors, specifically Exam Krackers and the Princeton Review, what are the strengths and weaknesses of your review course compared to Exam Krackers and Princeton Review.
Additionally, do you expect to sell your books on Amazon? I purchase Exam Krackers and Princeton Review books for the simple reason that it was available on Amazon and with Amazon Prime shipping, I get it in less than 2 days. Price is not an issue. Right now, I'm on the fence with Berkeley Review for the simple reason that it appears to take a long time for shipment.
Hey BerkReviewTeach,
Thanks for answering all of our questions. I have one as well, which has been a concern of mine while preparing to study for the MCAT:
Some people have said that TBR's Bio review books are too detailed,which makes it difficult to grasp all of the material presented within each chapter. How would you recommend overcoming this great amount of detail so we can better prepare ourselves for the bio portion of the test? Obviously it is better to be over-prepared than under-prepared, but I was a bit overwhelmed while looking @ a friend's TBR bio book.
Thanks!
--E
Is the staff at TBR aware of the negative outlook that people have about the verbal book and what are they doing to rectify the situation. Every other subject is considered amongst the best in the industry and I'm curious as to what TBR is doing to reach that same level on the verbal? Why has it been a struggle?
Very poignant question! We are well aware that premeds who do their homework know that our physics, general chemistry, and organic chemistry books are the best and our biology book is in the running for best or second best. There is a deep sense of pride in this.
But our verbal is not on the same plane as our science books, and many students wonder why. I think the answer is found in two parts. This subject is discussed behind the scenes quite often. The basic gist is that (a) everyone in the company is well aware that the market place perceives our verbal book as a distant third best and (b) the mindset of everyone in the company is that we are a teaching company first and a book seller second.
We review how our classroom students do in the various subjects each year, and their verbal averages are in the 9.0 to 9.8 range. So while book buyers don't choose our verbal book, the combination of our book with the in-class handouts, exercises, and teaching is getting good results. Our conlusion is that the combination of our verbal materials and course is effective. So any changes we make are aimed at the classroom materials, some of which in time will get incorporated into our books. But as I mentioned in a reply to another question, the energy of recent years for verbal reasoning has all been dedicated to the excercises in the in-class portion and not the book.
So the verbal book gets the least love. The ironic thing is that the verbal book was the most challenging to develop, because of the large number of passage writers and the number of passages that got rejected. I personally think the problem stems from the editor, because there are some excellent passages and ideas in the book. But he set out to blend everything into a uniform voice by putting in his take. When he did this, some of the nuances of other writers were lost and some explanations became too long to stay interested in. Still, there are some great, realistic passages in the book.
I don't see that editor leaving anytime soon, so my honest answer is that the book will likely not change for a while. Someone else is in charge of the classroom material, so that will continue to evolve with feedback. The book is useful for people looking for additional passages, and there are students who find it helpful. I think it suffers from the little sibbling syndrome in that it looks bad compared to how great the other BR books are. But there is definitely utility in it if you know how to use it and can put aside any preconceived bias towards it.
Will TBR be expanding their courses onto the east coast anytime soon? Also, is it possible to score in the 30s on the MCAT if you only use TBR to prepare?
Question: are the phase 1 and 2 passages in the book comparable to the real difficulty of the MCAT passages or are they harder/easier?
Thanks!
I never really understood what exactly the term "and handling" meant..
If you ever see someone selling you TBR e-books, report them to BerkReviewTeach or email [email protected]In addition, I've seen an advertisement for TBR "e-books". I checked for them on the website but couldn't find them. Do these e-books even exist?
That actually hasn't been asked yet, so thanks for an original question. Shipping is free. I never really understood what exactly the term "and handling" meant, but that's free too.
Will TBR be expanding their courses onto the east coast anytime soon? Also, is it possible to score in the 30s on the MCAT if you only use TBR to prepare?
In terms of the Berkeley Review products available, can you currently download the CBT tests online or is it in CD format?
When we do the essays for the TBR CBT are they graded by a TBR instructor or what?
Do we have a limit on how many times we can take each CBT?
Also, does TBR do video explanations of CBT answers (similar to Kaplan)?
I really really reeeeeally want those TBR books and I've been looking for easiest ways to get a of those books but I don't know how money order works since I'm up from North. Could you tell me how I go on about doing that? Do I need actual American dollars to get the money order?
In addition, I've seen an advertisement for TBR "e-books". I checked for them on the website but couldn't find them. Do these e-books even exist?
Well, if I'm paying you good money to ship your wonderful books to me, I'd expect them to be handled, from the printing press to the truck, with terry cloth gloves and given a shiny, freshly waxed cover, good sir!
Anyway, I'm about a year away from taking the MCAT's (Taking post-bac courses and still need to go through OChem and Bio) but I've been thinking of going over a lot of Physics and Gen Chem passages in your books so as to keep the material fresh and to make test-taking passages nearly second nature. Would you recommend this with your materials or are they made to be specifically used as a program? Thanks senor!
Cheers!
It's completely illegal for people to buy, sell, or possess those e-books. Luckily most copies keep a record of where they started and every computer that has touched them. It's been interesting to say the least and has actually resulted in some strange bonding between competitors in this industry.
Yes, the books are a part of the classroom materials (included in the course cost). There are about an additional 1000 pages of handouts with the course, although much of that is just more passages and explanations.
If you look at the course thread in this forum, you'll see a detailed list of the course materials.
Thank you. I think speaking on behalf of everyone else we really appreciate your honest, insightful, and straightforward response to all of our questions. It really helps eliminate any anxiety we may have about deciding on a course provider/study plan. The only bone I have to pick with anything above is that BR students generally score higher on the other subjects...but then again, everyone does worse on the verbal so that could be the simple explanation for why students do worse on the verbal.
Does the Berkeley Review sell their books at the Westwood office and if so, what are the operating hours and days of the Westwood office, thanks.
For someone who hasn't finished taking all the premed *prerequisite courses, would the books be sufficient enough to understand what would be on the MCAT? I'm asking because I haven't taken the ochem 2 and physics 2 but planning to take the MCAT April next year. Thank you.
For someone who hasn't finished taking all the premed *prerequisite courses, would the books be sufficient enough to understand what would be on the MCAT? I'm asking because I haven't taken the ochem 2 and physics 2 but planning to take the MCAT April next year. Thank you.
Ochem 2, yes. The material is all in there. Sadly, most people tell you mcat test the basic ochem 1 stuff but pretty much most of the ochem stuff i saw where stuff i'd seen in TBR ochem book 2. Problem is i went through it once and was fuzzy on some of the stuff. You'll definately need to go through it more than once. Physics 2? not sure. i did use TBR to help me understand sound when took physics 2 online and that was after desperately looking into other books. I haven't gone through their electricity and magnetism chapter yet so it's hard to make a complete judgement.
if you're taking the mcat next year? i suggest you finish up the classes this year. While I took physics 2 long ago and while i didn't remember much when i took it recently, some things did come back. Don't rush into the MCAT, it'll always be there. Make sure you're ready before you take it.
Totally off point, but S&H is not subject to state sales tax in California, where Shipping alone is....(the 'handling' part is a labor charge which companies may add and labor is exempt from sales tax).
back to regularly scheduled programming.....
Thank you!
These ebooks remind me of the pdf solutions manuals that used to get passed around in my undergrad courses.
If you ever see someone selling you TBR e-books, report them to BerkReviewTeach or email [email protected]
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=763839
As someone who is somewhat unfamiliar with TBR books, can you explain the approach to teaching the content they take as opposed to other review books?
For example, I've seen books that have focused more on explaining concepts and teaching the information that might be covered on the MCAT, and others that are more similar to a collection of practice questions.
Where does TBR fall on this continuum, in your view?
How much more effective are your products as compared to other review sets?
How many passages would you say the TBR comes with compared to other companies?
Asking for CBT only:
With the CBT, how much have the TBR exams undergone changes in recent years? I know that the books have constantly been revised, and as someone who used old TBR books on the first time and the new one now, there are definitely differences. But what about CBT? Have the questions been revised to reflect the topics emphasized in the recent MCAT (i.e. very integrative and less on rote memorization)?
If we take your classroom course, can we keep the books as well, more subsequent self-study?
Do the Berkley Review CBTs provide detailed content analysis, similar to the AAMC practice tests, to help identify weak areas for review?
What do you mean by at least 45 days? Do you lose access to them at some point?
There have been several mentions of office hours for the TBR prep course. What would happen if a student had a packed schedule and could not make the scheduled office hours? I'm assuming that the instructors have set hours each week that students can come in and ask for help. Is it easy to approach instructors to schedule an individual appointment that fits the student's schedule better? The reason I ask is that I would want to be able to ask for help should I need it, but I don't want to be hindered by my schedule.
Some people have said that TBR's Bio review books are too detailed, which makes it difficult to grasp all of the material presented within each chapter. How would you recommend overcoming this great amount of detail so we can better prepare ourselves for the bio portion of the test? Obviously it is better to be over-prepared than under-prepared, but I was a bit overwhelmed while looking @ a friend's TBR bio book.
Thanks!
--E
Is the staff at TBR aware of the negative outlook that people have about the verbal book and what are they doing to rectify the situation. Every other subject is considered amongst the best in the industry and I'm curious as to what TBR is doing to reach that same level on the verbal? Why has it been a struggle?
Does TBR's CBT package include any of the actual AAMC 3-11 practice exams like some of the other companies like Kaplan offer with their online practice products.
Have there been any recent update/s to the home-study books in comparison to last year?
2 questions I have:
1) Are there plans for a 3rd phase in the next set of BR Physics books?
2) Are there other ways of obtaining (purchasing) the in-class passage sets and such? Add'l practice materials and the like?
Question: are the phase 1 and 2 passages in the book comparable to the real difficulty of the MCAT passages or are they harder/easier?