Being in short-term Armageddon mode for years on end is no plan. Either we need to build twice as many hospitals to handle the new normal of perma-pandemics. Or we need to get real serious about ending the problem once and for all.
I've noticed that my vaccine nanobots has improved my 5G reception.
I haven’t decided if it’s garden variety stupidity, or mass paranoid delusions.
As much as I like the idea from an emotional standpoint, this would be a dangerous precedent and ethically problematic.
Is a booster just getting the other vaccine? Getting say Pfizer back in the day and now getting moderna… one or two shots?
Never apply pathology to a situation easily explained by stupidity
I like that. "Garden Variety Stupidity" gets the win!
You can find lots of . . . doctors. . . who are furthering distrust of large institutions. Of course the local OB/GYN who is Rxing ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine for a smooth $125 ect also offers intranasal and rectal ozone. No insurance of course.
If we are forced to ration care, ie ventilators etc, here's how you'll see it done:
From what I've read, it's not set in stone. But generally, it looks like a "booster" currently would be simply to get one more of what you already had (a 3rd Pfizer or Moderna; or 2nd J&J if you had a single J&J). However, I've heard of many people mixing it up for various reasons, i.e. J&J people getting a booster of either Pfizer or Moderna, due the general perceived superiority of those formulations. Or people that had Pfizer, getting a 3rd dose but with Moderna, since that latest data (seemingly) shows Moderna holding stronger against the Delta variant.
First come- first serve with a carve out for those with the resources to arrange care outside of their region?
And who are those people?
Yeah, get biweekly emails from multiple hospital CEOs with covid stats, number of unvaccinated covid patients is like 86%.
Yep ours are 80-85% consistently
I was originally envisioning the CEOs/CNOs who wreck stable and sustainable staffing patterns for a quarterly bonus as the most immediate beneficiary. Anybody that’s destabilizing the system in the hopes of short term profits would be included. We celebrate the capitalistic success of people who figure out how to make a better widget but that’s really hard to do. It’s a lot easier to gamble that you can hollow out your current business model in the hope of using the profits to buy out your competitors and reap the benefits of a monopoly. And if you fail, you probably started from a position of privilege that will let you try again elsewhere.
WTF is a "facilitating antibody"?
Lol
It’s a thing that if it were significant and wide spread would mean that people with vaccination induced immunity would actually get sicker than if they weren’t vaccinated. Which doesn’t seem to fit. Delta infects vaccinated people but they seem to do better and clear their antigen tests more quickly than their unvaccinated counterparts.
Lmao. He got me, didn't he.
Lmao. He got me, didn't he.
I need to log off the internet, bad. Like, so bad . Lol.
Every single published study of prior infection vs vaccination has shown prior infection to be at least equivalent if not superior to vaccination. There is no rationale reason to think otherwise at this point. I'm not advocating for people to get their immunity via exposure to the virus but taking this position that the vaccine provides better immunity is devoid of logic and devoid of evidence. As far as NY vs FL, as far as I've seen FL still has the lower overall population adjusted death rate. NY's Delta season is likely to come this fall.
The MMWR study was published. There are multiple possible reasons a vaccine could provide better protection against a mutated virus than the body's response to the wild type. Antibodies elicited by mRNA-1273 vaccination bind more broadly to the receptor binding domain than do those from SARS-CoV-2 infection | Science Translational Medicine for one explanation.
Meanwhile they are carrying a tracking device on their body 24/7 and posting their whole life on social media with said device, but they are somehow worried that the gov needs a vaccine to “track” them
Basic science experiments were interesting until we had real world data, and then it became less relevant. But if you insist on looking at in vitro antibody studies I will refer you to this study again. A full year after infection people with prior infection had better Delta neutralization than vaccinated people months after vaccination.
I keep hoping this too
Australian cities/states go into hard lockdown to get back to elimination. It worked pretty well before delta.
Why is no one talking about this? We need to talk about this. Why is no one concerned about this? Could vaccinated people be worse off down the line based on this effect?
This is my main concern and I keep getting eye rolls from colleagues at work who think I am a conspiracy theorist.
Except if this were a current concern at this time, we’d be seeing substantially sicker prior vaccinated patients compared to non-vaccinated.
And rightfully so. Developing an effective immune response to COVID due to infection is a significantly riskier path than through vaccination. In every group the vaccines has been studied in, the rates of complications from COVID are significantly higher than vaccine complications. If you're focused on a theoretical risk that is unsupported by any current epidemiological data vs. the very real risk posed by low vaccinations rates, that's going to feel off to most HCWs. I
It's just something to be aware of. It's not something that should take precedence over any other bit of information on the subject.
