Private practice does not make you an excellent doctor, working for a hospital does not make you a bad one.
There are good And bad docs in both settings.
There are good And bad docs in both settings.
How many HOPDs have been shut down for pills-for-shots operations? Genuinely curious.
Private practice does not make you an excellent doctor, working for a hospital does not make you a bad one.
There are good And bad docs in both settings.
Agreed! Again, I never said working in private practice makes one an excellent doctor. As you said, there are excellent ones in both settings.Private practice does not make you an excellent doctor, working for a hospital does not make you a bad one.
There are good And bad docs in both settings.
Agreed! Again, I never said working in private practice makes one an excellent doctor. As you said, there are excellent ones in both settings.
My entire point is if one is working on Kaiser/VA/academics and is excellent there is no significant and meaningful additional financial reward. In private practice however, the income ceiling is much higher and excellence may be matched with higher income.
I personally evaluate those in academics as excellent with how many people they’ve mentored, quality of manuscripts, way they treat trainees, advance the field at conferences, educate other departments about pain, and work on policy at the local and national level.
We need both private practice and non private practice.
Why is this controversial?
You forgot to mention my favorite ones:Lee Health pays $12.7 million to resolve self-reported claims violations with federal government
Lee Health says it "self-disclosed" potential errors with claims from 2011 to 2018 and that "there are no financial impacts to patients."www.news-press.com
Providence to pay $22.7M to settle unnecessary spine surgery allegations
Providence Health & Services Washington will pay $22.7 million to resolve allegations it defrauded federal health programs with unnecessary spine surgeries.www.beckersspine.com
Federal Investigation Into Spine Surgeries Uses Mob Laws to Target Health Care Fraud - KFF Health News
Investigators allege a Texas company that arranges spine surgery and other medical care for people injured in car crashes accepted bribes in violation of 1960s-era racketeering law.khn.org
Dallas hospital owner pleads guilty to bribing spine surgeons in $200M healthcare fraud scheme: 9 things to know
As the trial against Dallas-based Forest Park Medical Center approaches, the hospital's co-founder and manager Alan Beauchamp agreed to plead guilty to bribing physicians to perform high volume and lucrative surgeries, according to The Dallas Morning News.www.beckersspine.com
Frankly anyone who supports Ayn Rands philosophical ideas/objectivism has no business being a physician. Y’all would make great car salesmen though.It's controversial because it's the truth. It's also not politically correct to ascribe success to individual effort and diligence. Instead, the theology of the Left and the Church of the Woke revolves around the "You did not build that" doctrine. All fruits of individual success are to be collectively shared.
Do you have a successful private practice? That's not "excellence;" that's just a coincidence. If you're from certain racial/ethnic/socioeconomic/gender groups, your excellence and success is not to be celebrated at all. Instead, it is to be ridiculed, confiscated, and ultimately redistributed to the less privileged, more oppressed, and more deserving.
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As silly as a newbie here telling drusso he has no business being a doctor.Frankly anyone who supports Ayn Rands philosophical ideas/objectivism has no business being a physician. Y’all would make great car salesmen though.
A physician completely opposed to ayn rand doesn’t belong in private practice.Frankly anyone who supports Ayn Rands philosophical ideas/objectivism has no business being a physician. Y’all would make great car salesmen though.
Frankly anyone who supports Ayn Rands philosophical ideas/objectivism has no business being a physician. Y’all would make great car salesmen though.
Just out of curiosity, which book of Ayn Rand did you not like? I'm interested in hearing more about why you feel that way.Frankly anyone who supports Ayn Rands philosophical ideas/objectivism has no business being a physician. Y’all would make great car salesmen though.
yes, and i agree... for the most part.Who said private practice is motivated by excellence? I didn’t.
I said excellence earns extra pay.
And you said private practice is motivated by money.
So, seems like you kind of agree with me.
19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.
20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Do you have to pay for college and medical school in England? Does a med school grad have any debt over there?A physician completely opposed to ayn rand doesn’t belong in private practice.
You might want to consider a university position or practicing in a socialized medicine country.
An experienced physician with the British national health service is paid 100-105K per year. Does that better align with your world perspective?
Personally I don’t feel that income level is worth the sacrifice in years, stress, debt, and your twenties, required to become a specialist physician.
Seriously. F biden. And all the libtards. SO GLAD Pelosi is GONE! And I hope AOC loses her position as well. Down with them all.we definitely wouldn't be in the hell hole mess we're in now. But of course the staunch liberals on this board will never own up to real consequences of their president, his administration and his policies and their direct role in stagflation, the recession and bear market, economic and international instability, open borders and the subsequent fentanyl crisis and the fact that we're on the brink of WWIII. Thanks Biden and all you that voted for him. It's been a great 2 years. 👍
We have a "fiduciary duty". Thats the bs they feed us and just expect us to eat $6it perpetually. What do you suggest? A union?I've never seen a more pathetic, defeatist, brainwashed sentiment than the comments expressed here by physicians. Everyone has been castrated and just handed their balls over to mommy? Is that what our grandfathers would have done? Doctors can do whatever they want to change the power dynamic: Opt out of Medicare, quit working for Big Hospital, tell Medicaid to go pound sand, etc.
Everyone should feel inspired to grow their balls and change their destiny instead of just punching the clock, accepting unfair rules, and eating whatever RVU crumbs are thrown at us. Raise your middle fingers and point them at the people eating off your plate!
Must suck to be this bitter.Seriously. F biden. And all the libtards. SO GLAD Pelosi is GONE! And I hope AOC loses her position as well. Down with them all.
Too late, all sold out.What percentage of your portfolios are going into the Donald Trump NFTs he announced yesterday?
You enjoy getting raped by govt as long as they say nice things? Sounds like he doesn’t. Me neither.Must suck to be this bitter.
Bit of a non sequitur there. I've never heard anyone above the age of 22, yet alone a physician, use the term "libtard."You enjoy getting raped by govt as long as they say nice things? Sounds like he doesn’t. Me neither.
That’s cause most 22 year olds are programmed to think the way liberals do..especially the castrated men. The youth will make wonderful prototypes for ultimate AI takeover. Especially “this is what the male robot is supposed to say and think and do..”Bit of a non sequitur there. I've never heard anyone above the age of 22, yet alone a physician, use the term "libtard."
If it makes you feel better, your grandparents and parents thought your generation sucked, too. Being disappointed in "the youth" if a tradition as old as time. The practice literally pre-dates Christianity.That’s cause most 22 year olds are programmed to think the way liberals do..especially the castrated men. The youth will make wonderful prototypes for ultimate AI takeover. Especially “this is what the male robot is supposed to say and think and do..”
Yup totally agree..we are moving closer and closer to becoming selected against. If you look at the data out there on the high infertility rates globally in men..nature is trying to tell us..it’s the end of the line peepsIf it makes you feel better, your grandparents and parents thought your generation sucked, too. Being disappointed in "the youth" if a tradition as old as time. The practice literally pre-dates Christianity.
Yeah but never before have 22y/o's been infantized to this extent. Colleges now have "safe zones" where the children can remain safe from anything that may trigger them. They're basically day care centers now.If it makes you feel better, your grandparents and parents thought your generation sucked, too. Being disappointed in "the youth" if a tradition as old as time. The practice literally pre-dates Christianity.
One of my favorite quotes:If it makes you feel better, your grandparents and parents thought your generation sucked, too. Being disappointed in "the youth" if a tradition as old as time. The practice literally pre-dates Christianity.
99.9% of the four billion species on Earth have gone extinct. Odds are definitely not in our favor.Yup totally agree..we are moving closer and closer to becoming selected against. If you look at the data out there on the high infertility rates globally in men..nature is trying to tell us..it’s the end of the line peeps
"Let's just end this."99.9% of the four billion species on Earth have gone extinct. Odds are definitely not in our favor.
We are not allowed to cross our legs now? Wtf socrates?!?One of my favorite quotes:
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
-Socrates 470 bc
Very expensive day cares, too.Yeah but never before have 22y/o's been infantized to this extent. Colleges now have "safe zones" where the children can remain safe from anything that may trigger them. They're basically day care centers now.
Saw this posted by my rheumatologist former nurse on IG. For those in the echo chamber, she is South American.
Too bad that you’re offended by the truth.can we put a cap on Godwin at which point the thread gets shut down? or at least has a "godwin" dislaimer on it?
Aren't you the big Elon fan? How's his "free speech platform" working out? Didn't he just ban a bunch of journalists?Too bad that you’re offended by the truth.
So you try to shut down any discussion that isn’t what you believe??? Typical liberal MO
No one suppresses free speech like democrats.
I will laugh out loud in the future whenever I hear a liberal say that they support free speech
But let back on the my pillow guyAren't you the big Elon fan? How's his "free speech platform" working out? Didn't he just ban a bunch of journalists?
Eyeroll.Too bad that you’re offended by the truth.
So you try to shut down any discussion that isn’t what you believe??? Typical liberal MO
No one suppresses free speech like democrats.
I will laugh out loud in the future whenever I hear a liberal say that they support free speech
It was a 2 day suspension. Maybe it was an overreaction from Musk but overall, I think he's improving Twitter.But let back on the my pillow guy
It was a 2 day suspension. Maybe it was an overreaction from Musk but overall, I think he's improving Twitter.
I like that Twitter gives you direct access to sources, rather than "reporters" presenting what they want you to hear.Of course you do.
But who really cares?
What’s really telling is what’s been revealed in the Twitter files. The FBI and CDC worked directly with Twitter employees to ban accounts of individuals they deemed were a threat to their narrative. Other individuals who didn’t toe the line were also shadow banned including anyone who questioned Fauci, masks and lockdowns. Everyone should be very concerned with this recent information.
Most "conservative" health policy ideas have never seen the light of day. What has been implemented has mostly come from liberal/welfare state advocates.
Just imagine how different things would look for physicians if more "conservative" policies were tried over the last two decades.
As physicians, we are in a protected market. If you consider how well most of us would be doing in other industries, you have to ask yourself why physicians and patients are constantly dissatisfied with the business aspect of healthcare.
If it weren't for the political sabotage that occurred with the introduction of Medicare and the widespread imposition of healthcare insurance into our system - all consequences of the outrageous "healthcare is a right" movement - patients would have more choices to receive high quality care at a competitive price and hospitals would be competing for business.
This comment about "making it" is obviously coming from and directed to those of us who share similar aspirations, ie successful, prosperous business practices.somebody said this recently... i cant remember who it was........
"The other thing that annoys me to no end about ssdoc's claims is that not everyone views "success" in the same way.
Someone who decides to be a mother and raise children is not a "low achiever" or some kind of victim of our society's "inequity". It's a rather despicable view imo."