P1 hicp students

[Caverject]

Hi,
Is it ok if HICP students continue and complete 2nd year, then wating until HICP gets candidate status, after that students back to school for internship and Naplex?

Only if HICP will allow you to do it. There is no "law" against doing that.

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[Jeddevil]

is information liking this are not readily available on your school? what is do the school explanation by your advisor to you HICP extrordinaire? I now do wish you luck all the best. Do you understand me?

That is some funny stuff there. Reminds me of reading the HICP girls blog before she made it unavailable to the public.

 

[goheel]

haha, the "what is do" part cracks me up.

 

[rxgal8]

What the...???

lol....I think Jack is being sarcastic

 

[phong.nguyen76]

Hi,
Is it ok if HICP students continue and complete 2nd year, then wating until HICP gets candidate status, after that students back to school for internship and Naplex?

Are you for real? I can't wait for my sister to finish the year and come back... feel bad for her... she still has to take a final exam just to defer.

 

[sharky2005]

Anyone on the HICP waitlist? I am currently on the waitlist. What about rejection? i have not known or heard of a rejection from anyone. What is the chance if you are on waitlist here at HICP. Thanks

 

[goheel]

Anyone on the HICP waitlist? I am currently on the waitlist. What about rejection? i have not known or heard of a rejection from anyone. What is the chance if you are on waitlist here at HICP. Thanks

After all is said on this thread, why would you want to go there? I suggest you read this thread thoroughly before you decide to go there.

 

[Caverject]

After all is said on this thread, why would you want to go there? I suggest you read this thread thoroughly before you decide to go there.

I think he meant does the school give out rejection letters

 

[sharky2005]

After all is said on this thread, why would you want to go there? I suggest you read this thread thoroughly before you decide to go there.

No, i really believe in this school. I really believe it will get accredited. Much like many new schools, it has to go thru. a rough ride to get to accreditation. Besides, it already has passed pre-cad status. Futhermore, mapping has already been done for the new facility.

So no one is on the waitlist? Has everyone been accepted? What about you guys...are u guys in the school or waiting ..what... I am sure all things will fall into place.

P.s i will read this thread aain. thanks

 

[Caverject]

No, i really believe in this school. I really believe it will get accredited. Much like many new schools, it has to go thru. a rough ride to get to accreditation. Besides, it already has passed pre-cad status.

Really?

 

[sharky2005]

Is it possible for your post to be any more hostile? Relax and take a breath, jesus.

Naive reasoning? Only see what I want to see? Making excuses? Jesus christ...

Please show me when i "made excuses", and giving a reason for something isnt an excuse, its a reason. Man, you really have it out for HICP dont you? Why have you been following it so closely if you're not even remotely connected to it?

So just because you have been talking to this Joanna person this means you know more about whats going on AT the school than me? I highly doubt it. You may know more about the accreditation status, since you're clearly obsessed, but not about the day to day workings of the school.

I hope you learn how to talk to people and realize that bombarding them with insults gets you nowhere. And more importantly, I hope you will then stop being such a jerk.

John

John, being on waitlist...how is that diff from other schools' wailist? Currently i am on the waitlist for HICP..and i will definitely want to attend HICP. I truly believe in the school. I've talked to many staffs and students...and they are very optimistic about the accreditation process. Thanks

 

[Jeddevil]

Sharky, who told you they had pre-candidate status? You havn't read through this thread yet, have you? I have never heard of anyone on a HICP waitlist because the school seems to accept anyone willing to gamble on them. Good luck.

 

[bananaface]

Dftt.

 

[phong.nguyen76]

John, being on waitlist...how is that diff from other schools' wailist? Currently i am on the waitlist for HICP..and i will definitely want to attend HICP. I truly believe in the school. I've talked to many staffs and students...and they are very optimistic about the accreditation process. Thanks

Buddy... you need to know few things...

1. JohnHICP left long time ago. He isnot in school
2. there is no pre-candid. ACPE denied several times of HICP's request to pre-candid. and skipped the whole thing
3. Dean quit too and the school cannot resubmit until they hire a new dean.

look... if you read through you will find that my sister is deferring after this year. She was optimistic too but the things that were said never came true. HICP was so sure that they were going to get candid the first try and led everyone to believe that. They have no plan B as far as I know, which means if school fails... they only have plan A... keep trying. Which isn't bad if you have the time and the money because they will need every penny you got. Look... if you're desire is to go to a pharmacy school and become a pharmacist, you should apply to an accredited school or wait until HICP is accredited.

 

[imperial frog]

I am sure all things will fall into place.

That attitude doesn't always work out for the best though.

 

[goheel]

sharky, if you get into any other school, I would suggest you go there instead of HICP.

 

[sharky2005]

sharky, if you get into any other school, I would suggest you go there instead of HICP.

Well, when i heard of HICP i only applied to it and thats it. I knew that thats the school i want to be at. I mean the program is a 3 years and the curriculum isnt bad too.

All in all, i still have faith in this school that it will pull out of this situation. I will keep my fingers crossed.

 

[bananaface]

sharky, if you get into any other school, I would suggest you go there instead of HICP.

DFTT

 

[sharky2005]

DFTT

Que es DFTT

 

[RxGirl]

what does DFTT stand for?

 

[sharky2005]

what does DFTT stand for?

Yes...I dont know much about acronyms

 

[GravyRPH]

Yes...I dont know much about acronyms

Don't Feed The Troll(s)

 

[sharky2005]

Don't Feed The Troll(s)

thanks

 

[sharky2005]

Anyone else heard any news about HICP or planning to attend HICP this coming year?

 

[nikkai]

Sharky, who told you they had pre-candidate status? You havn't read through this thread yet, have you? I have never heard of anyone on a HICP waitlist because the school seems to accept anyone willing to gamble on them. Good luck.

I got put on the waitlist.

Probably because when they asked me to rank the schools I applied to in order of preference, HICP wasn't in the top 5.

Hey, I didn't want to lie to them.

 

[nikkai]

Well, when i heard of HICP i only applied to it and thats it. I knew that thats the school i want to be at. I mean the program is a 3 years and the curriculum isnt bad too.

All in all, i still have faith in this school that it will pull out of this situation. I will keep my fingers crossed.

Um.

There are other 3 year programs out there.

UOP
USN
Midwestern (Both Campuses)
MCPHS Worcester
and some others that I can't remember.

And they're fully accredited (for boards at least. USN not the West something something government loan credit stamp of approval on the forehead thing).

 

[sharky2005]

I got put on the waitlist.

Probably because when they asked me to rank the schools I applied to in order of preference, HICP wasn't in the top 5.

Hey, I didn't want to lie to them.

Did you know anyone else on the waitlist? So far just you and i that i know of..i found two students got rejected.

 

[Jeddevil]

Sharky and anyone else considering HICP. Don't spend your money there, let me invest it for you. I have this great plan that I promise will be worth your time and money. You see, I got this great tip that CA is going to have a massive earthquake and fall into the ocean. So I will spend your money buying up land in the western AZ wastelands. It will happen within a couple years and you will own the new pacific oceanfront property. You can't fail, I promise. You invest the $150,000 with me that you are willing to flush down the toilet with HICP and I will return it 10 fold within the same three years you would waste going to such a highly thought of school like HICP. You will get more out of your investment with me also.

What, you don't believe me? I have as much accredidation as HICP does? And I am lining up all of my security licenses again. I have the paperwork in order and plan on getting them all within a couple years, I promise. Come on, everything will work out allright. Oh yeah, don't mind the foreign bank account number that I want you to wire the money to. I just use it to save on ATM fees.

Do I have any takers? Get in while the deal is HOT!!!

 

[nikkai]

Sharky and anyone else considering HICP. Don't spend your money there, let me invest it for you. I have this great plan that I promise will be worth your time and money. You see, I got this great tip that CA is going to have a massive earthquake and fall into the ocean. So I will spend your money buying up land in the western AZ wastelands. It will happen within a couple years and you will own the new pacific oceanfront property. You can't fail, I promise. You invest the $150,000 with me that you are willing to flush down the toilet with HICP and I will return it 10 fold within the same three years you would waste going to such a highly thought of school like HICP. You will get more out of your investment with me also.

What, you don't believe me? I have as much accredidation as HICP does? And I am lining up all of my security licenses again. I have the paperwork in order and plan on getting them all within a couple years, I promise. Come on, everything will work out allright. Oh yeah, don't mind the foreign bank account number that I want you to wire the money to. I just use it to save on ATM fees.

Do I have any takers? Get in while the deal is HOT!!!

Don't believe him. He's the devil.

Instead, invest in Nevada. It's closer. And the earthquake should be buffered by the sierra nevadas.

 

[goheel]

Did you know anyone else on the waitlist? So far just you and i that i know of..i found two students got rejected.

two students got rejected by HICP? that's the first.

 

[Caverject]

two students got rejected by HICP? that's the first.

actually, it would be a first and a second!

 

[bananaface]

actually, it would be a first and a second!

Wocka-wocka-wocka!

 

[sharky2005]

Don't believe him. He's the devil.

Instead, invest in Nevada. It's closer. And the earthquake should be buffered by the sierra nevadas.

Thats really funny Devil, but on a more serious note i do have faith in the school. When the time is right i'll definitely consider your offer.
I did not applied to any other school, Nik. Nevada, i didnt get a chance last year. So are you gonna go to HICP or you sit out? Its a risk and someone has to take it. Call me what you will but i have room to spend. I'll take the risk unless the problem is extremely obvious. I am sure ill know when to pull out. As of right now i do have faith in HICP but i do try to keep myself well informed with information that is around.

 

[nikkai]

Thats really funny Devil, but on a more serious note i do have faith in the school. When the time is right i'll definitely consider your offer.
I did not applied to any other school, Nik. Nevada, i didnt get a chance last year. So are you gonna go to HICP or you sit out? Its a risk and someone has to take it. Call me what you will but i have room to spend. I'll take the risk unless the problem is extremely obvious. I am sure ill know when to pull out. As of right now i do have faith in HICP but i do try to keep myself well informed with information that is around.

Eh...

According to my sig... I'm going to University of Illinois at Chicago... =)

Don't take this the wrong way, because I'm not trying to be mean, but I'm beginning to have some doubts to how much of what you read you actually understand; or if you read everything completely. I never indicated that I was even considering HICP, and my signature has indicated UIC constantly...

So, um, your faith in HICP may be based on some selective reading there, buddy. And being so, I highly, highly suggest you pull someone aside and ask them to explain to you what we've been talking about throughout this thread.

Fact: Dr. B (the dean) is very sick. He most likely will not be returning due to his illness. (confirmed by talking to a few friends that actually attend[ed] HICP).

Fact: There is a huge lack of clinical sites available on Hawaii. They have to definately work out some arrangements with "neighboring" states. This is definately a factor in their accredication process.

Fact: Classes taken at HICP have little or no chance to transfer to another institution due to the fact of the "non-traditional" role. Same goes for many 3 year programs wanting to transfer classes to 4 year institutions. There are definately exceptions, but the process you must go through will give you a huge head ache.

Fact: Because they cannot even submit their application till next summer, students will most likely not be able to go on rotations.

Fact: They ain't got no labs. They're trying to use labs at neighboring schools.

Fact: The people there are great people. Just a string of bad choices and gambles lead them to this unfortunate situation.

Fact: I wish everyone the best.

Fiction: Dallas will beat Phoenix in the 2nd round and advance.

 

[sharky2005]

Thank you for the facts. You might be right that i've not read all the threads or understanding it completely but my faith for that school is still there.

Let me ask you this, if the school will not get accreditted does that mean they will have to close down or wait until the money runs dry? I know that we must have a dean. Currently they have a temp. dean Dr. Hasan. As mentioned, i only applied to HICP this year. I hate to wait another year. Its difficult to get an interview. This is my second year applying.

Yeah, i do know a few students attending HICP also. Some are very optomistic and a few are a bit worrisome. Well, thanks again.

 

[Caverject]

Thank you for the facts. You might be right that i've not read all the threads or understanding it completely but my faith for that school is still there.

Let me ask you this, if the school will not get accreditted does that mean they will have to close down or wait until the money runs dry? I know that we must have a dean. Currently they have a temp. dean Dr. Hasan. As mentioned, i only applied to HICP this year. I hate to wait another year. Its difficult to get an interview. This is my second year applying.

Yeah, i do know a few students attending HICP also. Some are very optomistic and a few are a bit worrisome. Well, thanks again.

The school can stay open as long as it wants to. There is no law that states you must be an accredited school to operate.

 

[BMBiology]

sharky2005- If you are planning to attend HICP, you need to think how you will fund your tuition and living cost for the next 3 years. I estimate that it will cost you at least 120,000$ for 3 years. Take into consideration that you cannot receive any federal and regular private loans because the school does not have any form of accreditation. It is a HUGE gamble on a school that has repeatedly showed its incompetency.

Pharmacy school is already stressful enough. This gamble will make it even more stressful for you. I will bet you that this time next year you will realize it was a mistake. I have no doubt that when the demand for pharmacy schools begins to slow down and when the University of Hawaii opens its pharmacy school, HICP will close its door if not earlier.

 

[goheel]

sharky must be rich.

 

[phong.nguyen76]

Thank you for the facts. You might be right that i've not read all the threads or understanding it completely but my faith for that school is still there.

Let me ask you this, if the school will not get accreditted does that mean they will have to close down or wait until the money runs dry? I know that we must have a dean. Currently they have a temp. dean Dr. Hasan. As mentioned, i only applied to HICP this year. I hate to wait another year. Its difficult to get an interview. This is my second year applying.

Yeah, i do know a few students attending HICP also. Some are very optomistic and a few are a bit worrisome. Well, thanks again.

The school cannot submit with a temp. dean. My sister told me at their last townhall meeting, Dr.Hassan informed students that ACPE told him HICP made history 1) too many students 2) lack of faculty 3) not enough clinical rotation and now... 4) no dean. If you get in, I would wait at leastwhen it gets candid or something. Too much risk righ tnow.

 

[JohnUNLV]

Haha, whats up everyone. Someone told me to check out the SDN forum and all that good stuff. So thanks for all the "compliments" haha.

I post here with great humiliation and shame. It is taking a lot of me right now to admit how wrong I was and to apologize for how 'bulldogish' I was in the past. Several people felt we needed a voice and this forum was getting out of hand so they encouraged me to try and put an end to it. Clearly I went about it the wrong way. However, I'm a very open minded person and I can now admit that and eat my crow as well.

I have, in fact, left HICP and returned to Las Vegas to finish up my BS and go to dental school. I will be applying to pharmacy schools as well, but my frist choice will be dental. And in the future I will always have a "back-up" plan and never be left up ****'s creek again. I enjoyed my time in Hawaii, as it is an amazing place to live and I think it's wonderful that I got to have such an awesome experience (although a pretty damn expensive one).

Current HICP students who post on here incoherently need to type slower or have a better typist type for them and regulars on this board should be a little more gentle and understanding with how much emotion is pumping through these people. It's a very sad situation that I am extremely happy to no longer be a part of. I feel very fortunate that I am young enough and able enough to have other options and will be pursuing those options.

To all my ex-classmates, sorry guys, hope it works out. A lot of you guys are great people, but we all made the wrong choice. And as much as I want you to succeed, I just dont see it happening in that place. Too many obstacles, not enough answers. Simple as that.

John

 

[sharky2005]

Thank you for all your advise. Yeah, i did took into account that the living expense is quite expensive and i do have a small sum of money that i've saved for this type of situation. Of course, i'll have to make smart judgement before i actually make my final decision. But as of right now i believe HICP will still have a bit to exert because they've work too hard to give up. Unless problem is at front door...i am still behind the school. As previously mentioned, i do take all your postings and take into consideration and keep my eyes open if other options permit me. As of right now i am still only on the waitlist and i am not sure i'll be admitted.

Detal school is intense, a friend of my is in Boston TUFFS Unv. (maxillary construction specialist, i think). i believe. She has been nothing but straight A 's student as undegrad but now she is getting B's with all her might. Not to discourage you but wish you the best. Its a great occupation.

 

[nikkai]

Sharky, I'm curious.

What is your faith in the school based on exactly?

ie: Reports? Word of mouth from specific individuals that have a say in the direction of the entire program (like Dr. Miyahara for example)?

You have such a strong conviction that the school will be okay and I'm just curious where it's stemming from. Because for us, all signs point to closing for the school so far...

 

[sharky2005]

Sharky, I'm curious.

What is your faith in the school based on exactly?

ie: Reports? Word of mouth from specific individuals that have a say in the direction of the entire program (like Dr. Miyahara for example)?

You have such a strong conviction that the school will be okay and I'm just curious where it's stemming from. Because for us, all signs point to closing for the school so far...

My faith based on first impression when i first knew about it and read on it, friends that are attending there, inside sources, and of course, perserverance. I know this whole thread is stating negatively about the school but the final decision has not been finalized.

 

[BMBiology]

This is your 2nd year of applying. No other school granted you an interview except for HICP. Your faith in HICP may stemmed from the fact that you do not have other opportunities. Take this into consideration when you invest in HICP.

HICP is not an easy school. If you are not prepared, you will have a tough time passing its 80% passage rate standards. The school weeds out its students.

 

[bananaface]

So last year HICP rejected your application? Is that correct?

 

[sharky2005]

So last year HICP rejected your application? Is that correct?

No this is my first year applying to HICP. Last year i applied within California. It is obvious that HICP is my only opportunity since i only applied to it.

Yeah, i heard that many students were not prepared for the program and ended up not passing many exams.

 

[phong.nguyen76]

My faith based on first impression when i first knew about it and read on it, friends that are attending there, inside sources, and of course, perserverance. I know this whole thread is stating negatively about the school but the final decision has not been finalized.

What inside source do you have? Did ACPE secretly informed you that HICP is going to be okay? If so I want to tell my sister and my cousin to stay. Half of the class is coming home due to lack of financial sources. I told her not to take private loans since she might not be pharmacist through HICP. Let me know. I'm curious. And don't say 'friends that are attending there' I can tell you there isn't one student that can say "I love HICP" ones that are staying are too prideful to come back or just simply relying on optimism.

Just few weeks ago, faculty flipped on the class. Student stole a copy of the test after an exam as a source to study and an ananymous classmate turned a list of students that had the exam through an email to Dr. Miyahara. My sister said that Dr. Miyahara came in during class and interrupted by asking two guys to come out with their computer. Both were ended up being innocent.

This is the thing. When I hear stories like this from my sister and my cousin, it makes me wonder why faculties are on witch hunt. Shouldn't they be looking for Dean and prepare to meet ACPE or help look for better financial aid? And why student walk out of classroom with a test easy and then go on witch hunt? I went to UCLA years ago (too long ago) and I have never seen classmates try and steal or were that desperate enough to steal a test not to mention, you had to write your name and student ID on it. To make matters worse, the faculties came in apprently to talk to the students and 2 faculty members got into an arguement in front of the students. I think my cousin said one of the faculty walked out because he was so upse.t

Hey sharky, I really do want to know you inside source. my plan isn't to put you down. I want to know if your friends have told you everything? good and bad. Even what I just told you and if you still want to go school like this one? There is not guarantee.

 

[jdpharmd?]

...but the final decision has not been finalized.

"Allow myself to introduce.. er, myself."
-Austin Powers; International Man of Mystery
Very interesting posts about HICP lately. Unfortunately, I have nothing else to add at this time.

 

[sharky2005]

No, my source isnt that valuable. Students are currently voicing out and prob. demanding a few changes from the school. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Best of luck

 

[phong.nguyen76]

My cousin told me some students are planning to sue school.