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BlueSkyCA said:Who are you Steady-State? If you are HICP president, please shut your mouth up!
Was that really needed?
BlueSkyCA said:Who are you Steady-State? If you are HICP president, please shut your mouth up!
So you do go to HICP! It's too bad you don't like your class president because he has something you and some of your troll classmates don't have, class and taking responsibility for their actions. I can tell you for sure, steady-state is not your class president, so please don't "salamander" him. Thank you.BlueSkyCA said:Who are you Steady-State? If you are HICP president, please shut your mouth up!
Thank so much, BMBiology.....BMBiology said:Caverject- You really know how to kick them when they are down huh?
Although I never agreed with the decisions of HICP students, but I can understand their situation. I think most people would agree with me that it is tough to admit that you are wrong. It is even tougher for HICP students because they have not only invested time and money, but also because they now have to face reality and admit to their friends and family that they had made a mistake. I sincerely hope they will come to this frank realization and move on. I hope things will work out for them in the end.
Where is my thank you?BlueSkyCA said:Thank so much, BMBiology.....
s_s_11 said:Why dont you tell me where that pleasure is really coming from?!!!!!!
Gilgamesh19 said:I have a friend who has been accepted to hicp for this year. I was wondering if you could give us an update on what is going on with the school's future? What the current students are doing ? thanks
s s 11, I understand your concerns about all of us having nothing better to do. The reason I personally am involved with this whole situation is because I am going to be sharing a degree with everyone else who graduates from pharmacy school. Because of this, I would hope that all schools are up to par b/c the general public isn't going to differentiate between the pharmacy profession and some pharmacist that screws up and ends up killing someone. I'm in no way saying that HICP students are going to screw up and kill someone, what I am saying is that I'm concerned with the quality of education. There are many questions that concern me about the school, namely whether they just decided to open a COP just to make money or whether it was to actually promote the profession positively. Of course money was on their mind as it is with every school, but some of things that they did were shady. I personally think that HICP should be made an example so that we don't have new schools popping up everywhere which are being run my business men and women and not pharmacy professionals. I'm sorry that the situation really sucks for you guys, but it was extremely dangerous move to go to a non accredited school (or one that wasn't even in pre-candidate status). This happened to a law schoo here a couple of years ago. The first class was out 3 years before they could sit for the bar. What if this happens to you?? How will you repay back those loans? My biggest concern for this school is the quality of the institution. After talking to a few people from the ACPE it seems that they are rather displeased by the school and plan on making an example out of it. I'm sorry this happened to you but I worked hard to get into pharmacy school just like everyone else and I do not want the value of my degree to be jeopardized just because some people want to make money. I hope you can respect where I'm coming from. Good luck to all of you.s_s_11 said:Well if your friend has been accepted to hicp, she or he should be talking to Dr. Miyahara about any concerns, and that's about it , b/c here you don't know who really goes to hicp and who doesn't. so if i were you i wouldn't even ask from anybody here, b/c i see a lot of hatred here.
s_s_11 said:I mean I go to HICP and although there are some difficulties going on but we all have a lot of hope here
Exactly. It's like a shady (ahem, and I mean really shady) new medical school opening up and "everyone's a doctor" for $200k. When you go to the doctor, how do you know if you got one of those "pay for MD" docs who were poorly trained, had no labs, no library, no rotation sites, no dean, no structure, no accreditation, etc, or a *real* doctor? What about when you seen the front page of the newspaper that says "Dr blah blah scars someone for life, kills a pt, scams everyone and everything, down with doctors!, etc". Poor schools (and there really is no doubt that HICP is a poor example of a school) bring down the entire profession.Trancelucent1 said:s s 11, I understand your concerns about all of us having nothing better to do. The reason I personally am involved with this whole situation is because I am going to be sharing a degree with everyone else who graduates from pharmacy school. Because of this, I would hope that all schools are up to par b/c the general public isn't going to differentiate between the pharmacy profession and some pharmacist that screws up and ends up killing someone.
jdpharmd? said:Exactly. It's like a shady (ahem, and I mean really shady) new medical school opening up and "everyone's a doctor" for $200k. When you go to the doctor, how do you know if you got one of those "pay for MD" docs who were poorly trained, had no labs, no library, no rotation sites, no dean, no structure, no accreditation, etc, or a *real* doctor? What about when you seen the front page of the newspaper that says "Dr blah blah scars someone for life, kills a pt, scams everyone and everything, down with doctors!, etc". Poor schools (and there really is no doubt that HICP is a poor example of a school) bring down the entire profession.
The fact that HICP was accepting ANYONE who had $$ to pay is indicative of a program that is based soley on spending students' money, and not on producing quality graduates.
Jeddevil said:Sure you have a lot of hope, but here in the real world, your school is ripping you off. Good luck paying off your 8-18% loans with no job after three years of hard work.
Future students, if you are still interested in HICP, wake up. Do not risk your.... nevermind. If you are still interested in a school after all that has come out about this one, you deserve to get taken.
s_s_11 said:i just don't understand you, u r not even here and know nothing about the school and you say with out any doubt HICP is a poor example of a school?!!!!!! if my school is bad and poor in education, ur telling me your schools is better ?!!!!
AmandaRxs said:What I find interesting is that HICP students ONLY post on HICP threads. You guys never have input to threads about clinical questions or thoughts about pharmacy. If you want the rest of us to realize that you're getting a good education at HICP, then why don't you prove it?!
AmandaRxs said:Well, for one, unlike you, we communicate coherently. Every HICP student that has posted doesn't know the first thing about English grammar and syntax. Quit being so defensive. If you felt completely secure about your school and your situation you wouldn't feel the need to freak out all the time.
What I find interesting is that HICP students ONLY post on HICP threads. You guys never have input to threads about clinical questions or thoughts about pharmacy. If you want the rest of us to realize that you're getting a good education at HICP, then why don't you prove it?!
AmandaRxs said:The pleasure comes from a simple and collective.........
"I told you so!"
s_s_11 said:I have said it once and I will say it again all I want and asked from you guys was to stop the assumptions and making rumors b/c a lot of what is being discussed here has nothing to do with neither the truth nor the level of the education.
Steady-State said:How is that for English?
jdpharmd? said:Exactly. It's like a shady (ahem, and I mean really shady) new medical school opening up and "everyone's a doctor" for $200k. When you go to the doctor, how do you know if you got one of those "pay for MD" docs who were poorly trained, had no labs, no library, no rotation sites, no dean, no structure, no accreditation, etc, or a *real* doctor? What about when you seen the front page of the newspaper that says "Dr blah blah scars someone for life, kills a pt, scams everyone and everything, down with doctors!, etc". Poor schools (and there really is no doubt that HICP is a poor example of a school) bring down the entire profession.
The fact that HICP was accepting ANYONE who had $$ to pay is indicative of a program that is based soley on spending students' money, and not on producing quality graduates.
When you call people by name "Idiots", you think you are smarter???Caverject said:Very good job! I wish more people, such as yourself, posted instead of the idiots in your class. They do much more damage around here than any of us! BTW- I am PM'ing you
AmandaRxs said:Well, for one, unlike you, we communicate coherently. Every HICP student that has posted doesn't know the first thing about English grammar and syntax. Quit being so defensive. If you felt completely secure about your school and your situation you wouldn't feel the need to freak out all the time.
No one here is saying you all aren't working hard. But being a hard worker isn't enough! A lot of "C" students are HARD workers, but they just don't grasp concepts the same way that "A" students do. Sometimes, no matter how hard someone works at something, they just can't do it.
What I find interesting is that HICP students ONLY post on HICP threads. You guys never have input to threads about clinical questions or thoughts about pharmacy. If you want the rest of us to realize that you're getting a good education at HICP, then why don't you prove it?!
hancanada said:Smart people don't have to prove that they are smart. Only "not smart" people want to prove that they are smarter than others.
I forgot to tell you that smart people don't say that they are smart to others....but if you are desperate for being smart...then You'r very welcome!AmandaRxs said:So I guess since I'm not trying to prove that I'm smarter, then that means..... I am smart....thanks for the compliment!
What is this? A game of "I know what you are, but what am I?"? When I say idiot, I am talking about your classmates that post non-sense on SDN. Dude, if you can't take constructive criticism now, you may want to think of a different profession.hancanada said:When you call people by name "Idiots", you think you are smarter???
goheel said:This question is for the HICP students. Did you get accepted to anywhere else beside HICP? If yes, why did you pick HICP?
Your post doesn't sound like you are a "professional" student.Caverject said:What is this? A game of "I know what you are, but what am I?"? When I say idiot, I am talking about your classmates that post non-sense on SDN. Dude, if you can't take constructive criticism now, you may want to think of a different profession.
Can someone make sense of this? At least put it into a form of English that I can understand? I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you!hancanada said:Your post doesn't sound like you are a "professional" student.
When you can not even listen to NON-SENSE stuff, you would NOT be the one in this profession.
Consider about yourself first BEFORE asking others DUDE
When people reply to your post...DOES NOT mean they are HICP students DUH.......How childish with that assumption......
hancanada said:Your post doesn't sound like you are a "professional" student.
When you can not even listen to NON-SENSE stuff, you would NOT be the one in this profession.
Consider about yourself first BEFORE asking others DUDE
When people reply to your post...DOES NOT mean they are HICP students DUH.......How childish with that assumption......
Steady-State said:Why don't you let ACPE decide if the school will meet their standards on pharmacy education instead of creating more issues that are not true?
goheel said:Does HICP have a class coming in this year too?
BMBiology said:The ACPE did decide on the faith of HICP. It asked HICP to withdraw its application a few months ago. Although almost a year has passed since HICP opened its door, HICP is still trying to hire its core faculty. Worst yet, they now have to find a new dean. It is like HICP is starting all over again but this time with a forever tarnished reputation.
I really do not think HICP will ever meet many of the ACPE's standards. Slowly but steadily, the demand for pharmacy school will come to a halt. It is then that HICP will finally close its door and leave many of its students in the rain with a worthless piece of paper.
Pharmacy school is already stressful enough without all of these worries. I do not think HICP will even survive for another year. Do you honestly want to go through another year of this? It is your money, your time, and most importantly, your choice. This decision may be the turning point in your life so make a wise decision.
I am open to any constructive debates but if you are going to reply to my post with anger and condemnation then you should not even bother. Don't even demand us to stop posting about HICP either. We will not mind our own business. It is not only our rights to post on this public forum, but also our duty as pharmacy students to warn others about HICP.
Did your sister get accepted to anywhere else beside HICP when she applied? Actually, this forum did exist when your sister applied, she just didn't find it.phong.nguyen76 said:My sister attends HICP and personally, I don't think it will get accredited anytime soon. But it's important to talk about this since forum like this didn't exist when my sister applied and got accepted. Had we known more about this school, I doubtshe would have gone.
goheel said:Did your sister get accepted to anywhere else beside HICP when she applied? Actually, this forum did exist when your sister applied, she just didn't find it.
JackBeanstalk said:is information liking this are not readily available on your school? what is do the school explanation by your advisor to you HICP extrordinaire? I now do wish you luck all the best. Do you understand me?