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[OMFSdoc]

OMFSdoc
Specialty/Where: OMS 6 years
Dental School Attended:Tufts
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2004
NBDE Part I/II scores: 93/88 (take II after you submit your application so your score doesn't matter and you don't have to stress about it)
Class Ranking:6/144
Match/Non-Match:Match
Externship(s): 3
Research:1 publication
Extracurriculars: Tutor, class rep, blah blah blah (this doesn't really matter)

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[Jediwendell]

Jedi I was hoping to meet you today!

You would have had to come wandering by the ortho deptartment! Hope you enjoyed our unseasonably cold weather and the program.

 

[OMFSCardsFan]

Specialty/Where: OMS 6-year
Dental School Attended: Marquette
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2005
NBDE Part I/II scores: 93/86 (took Part II after Match)
Class Ranking: 5/74
Match/Non-Match: Match
Externship(s): UAB (2 weeks)
Research: None
Extracurriculars: Intramural sports! No positions held, no great awards. Did a lot of medical/dental mission-work.

I'll second what N2S said: once you've gotten an interview, a person with a 97 has next to no edge on a person with a 92 simply based on board scores.

 

[OMFSCardsFan]

Specialty/Where: Perio
Dental School Attended: Marquette
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2005
NBDE Part I/II scores: Not as good as CardsFan (but not required for perio
anyway)
Class Ranking: Also not required
Match/Non-Match: Non-Match
Externship(s): Sisters of the Poor School of Dental Hygiene
Research: "Cloning Chihuahuas: Recent Developments"
Extracurriculars: Picking up chicks at the Milwaukee School for the Blind;
Assembling an impressive collection of fetal foreskin for
future grafting research

 

[Periogod]

Specialty/Where: Perio
Dental School Attended: Marquette
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2005
NBDE Part I/II scores: Not as good as CardsFan (but not required for perio
anyway)
Class Ranking: Also not required
Match/Non-Match: Non-Match
Externship(s): Sisters of the Poor School of Dental Hygiene
Research: "Cloning Chihuahuas: Recent Developments"
Extracurriculars: Picking up chicks at the Milwaukee School for the Blind;
Assembling an impressive collection of fetal foreskin for
future grafting research

At least I beat you with my 1250 on the GRE (and OMFS thinks their requirements are so stringent).

 

[Johnson22]

It would be nice if people from Perio and other specialties (not just OMFS and ortho) if they could post their match stats.

 

[OMFSCardsFan]

At least I beat you with my 1250 on the GRE (and OMFS thinks their requirements are so stringent).

I guess I have to forfeit that one since I never took it, eh? Maybe I'll look into taking it after the USMLE just to show you up again. You won't cry and lick syrup off a plate like the last time? It was pathetic...almost made me feel bad...

 

[Periogod]

Specialty/Where: Perio
Dental School Attended: Marquette
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2005
NBDE Part I/II scores: 90/85 (took Part II after acceptance)
Class Ranking: 6/74
GRE: 1250 (required for most Master's programs)
Match/Non-Match: No Match for perio
Externship(s): Yeah right.
Research: I'm doing plenty now.
Extracurriculars: A couple honor societies and thousands of hours logged on the Playstation

 

[TanakaJohnson]

It would be nice if people from Perio and other specialties (not just OMFS and ortho) if they could post their match stats.

Seems like periogod was faltering in omniscience and omnipotency. Guys I know doing perio at good programs-90 on part 1 boards is the cutoff to be considered for interviews, 95 or better really what they're looking for.
Endo is about the same, actually it seems all the residencies look at a 90 as cutoff for interviews, and a 95 setting you apart.
GPA's-Gotta have a 3.7 at least to consider filling out the paperwork.
For us wire benders, the stats aren't really that different than other programs, it just seems some of us are a little more uptight/anal/compulsive/desperate, while all programs are looking for the same stats.
TJ

 

[antidentite]

Maybe they are all loking for the same stats, but they just don't find them. Perio is not as competitive as ortho. Don't bother listing individual cases. Overall, there is no comparison.



For us wire benders, the stats aren't really that different than other programs, it just seems some of us are a little more uptight/anal/compulsive/desperate, while all programs are looking for the same stats.
TJ[/QUOTE]

 

[Periogod]

Seems like periogod was faltering in omniscience and omnipotency. Guys I know doing perio at good programs-90 on part 1 boards is the cutoff to be considered for interviews, 95 or better really what they're looking for.
TJ

I guess I was accepted based on my rugged good-looks and charming personality.

 

[Yellowman]

Prog: OMFS/5 yr (case western)
Part I: 95
Part II: 89
Class Rank: no ranks
Degrees: BS in biochemistry
DDS, 2005
Applied: 20 programs
Interviewed: 9 programs
Matched: Yes
Attempts: Matched at first attempt
Awards: Academic Awards, OKU
Publications: a bunch...

 

[Johnson22]

Let's get this page going now that the match results have come out!

 

[Johnson22]

bump

 

[Yah-E]

Specialty/Where: OMFS MD-Integrated (6 years) @ LSU New Orleans
Dental School Attended: Nova Southeastern University
Year Earned DMD/DDS: DMD Class of 2006
NBDE Part I/II scores: 90/80
Class Ranking: 23/106
Match/Non-Match: Matched to #1 choice with first attempt
Externship(s): 4 official externships (total accumulating to 12 weeks)
- LSU NO (4 weeks)
- Minnesota (3 weeks)
- Parkland (2 weeks)
- Cook County (3 weeks)
Research: Stepped into a lab for 10 minutes, twice
Extracurriculars:
- Class President (D1 year)
- Psi Omega Scholarship Chairman (D3 year)
- Psi Omega member (all 4 years)
- Medical School Surgery Club (first 2 years)
- Student Body President (D4 year)
- University Ambassador (all 4 years)
- Peer tutor (all 4 years)
- Partying wit da laaaadies
Programs applied/Interviews received/Interviews Attended/Ranked programs: 20/6/5/5

 

[cusp of carabelli]

Hey yah-e...
i'm excited for you dude..this is awesome. When do you get started? To all those that matched...congrats! 4 years of hard work finally paid off and now it's time to paaaaaartay!!!

 

[Demeter]

Demeter
Specialty/Where: Pedo 2yrs
Dental School Attended: Texas
Year Earned DDS: 2005
NBDE Part I/II scores: 85/80
Class Ranking: somewhere in the middle
Match/Non-Match:Match
Externship(s): 1 ( 2 weeks)
Research: N/A
Extracurriculars: Several weeks of South Texas rotations working in clinics with high HPSA scores ( Health professional shortage areas).
Received Letters of recommendation by well known Pediatric Dentists. This is extremely important, because the letter is only worth as much as the name attached to it.
Programs applied to/Interviews received/Interviews Attended/Ranked programs: 14/8/8/8

My stats suck!
This should give some people hope you want to get into Pedo and don't have 97 board scores. I think Pedo is all about personality. For me, the interview, my letters of rec, my personal statement, volunteer experience + AEGD got me in.

 

[TiggerJSA]

Specialty/Where: OMFS MD-Integrated (6 years) @ Alabama
Dental School Attended: University of Maryland
Year Earned DMD/DDS: DDS Class of 2006 (hopefully)
NBDE Part I/II scores: 98/87
Class Ranking: 3/103
Match/Non-Match:[/B] Matched first try
Externship(s): 2 official externships (total accumulating to 5 weeks)
- LSU NO (3 weeks)
- UPenn (2 weeks)
Research: NIH Funded Summer Research Program
Extracurriculars:
- OMS Student Interest Group Director (D3-4 year)
- Alpha Omega President (D3 year)
- Alpha Omega Treasurer (D4 year)
- Gamma Pi Delta Treasurer (D4 year)
- Gorgas Honor Society Member (D4 year)
Programs applied to/Interviews received/Interviews Attended/Ranked programs: 14/11/8/8

MATCHED #1 BABY!!!
A little drunk right now...

 

[usc2006]

Specialty/Where: omfs/university of washington
Dental School Attended: USC
Year Earned DMD/DDS:[/B] DDS Class of 2006
NBDE Part I/II scores:97/ part II in march
Class Ranking: n/a
Match/Non-Match:[/B] Matched first try
Externship: 3 externships (total accumulating to 12 weeks)
- loma linda (1 week)
- mt sinai (2 weeks)
- usc (4 weeks)
Research: didnt publish
Extracurriculars: same bs as everyone esle

 

[usc2006]

Specialty/Where: omfs/university of washington
Dental School Attended: USC
Year Earned DMD/DDS:[/B] DDS Class of 2006
NBDE Part I/II scores:97/ part II in march
Class Ranking: n/a
Match/Non-Match:[/B] Matched first try
Externship: 3 externships (total accumulating to 12 weeks)
- loma linda (1 week)
- mt sinai (2 weeks)
- usc (4 weeks)
Research: didnt publish
Extracurriculars: same bs as everyone esle

 

[StarGirl]

YOUR SIGNATURE SAYS u$c...

 

[Johnson22]

cmon guys! help us young people see what we need to be shooting for! Thanks!

 

[Yah-E]

Alright gentlemen (& ladies), this dental residency forum is dying out. All they talk about is "Future of Perio"! Who cares about Perio. Lets post some stats. I know there are at least 20 of us out there that have matched in OMFS residencies. Lets share, now you've matched, no need to have secrets! This is strictly a reference tool for future OMFS hopefuls.

 

[UNLV OMS GUNNABE]

Specialty/Where: OMS MD-Integrated (6 years) @ Houston
Dental School Attended: UNLV
Year Earned DMD/DDS: DDS Class of 2006 (hopefully)
NBDE Part I/II scores: 97/87
Class Ranking: 2/72
Match/Non-Match: Matched first try
Externship(s): 4 (total accumulating to 8 weeks)
- LSU NO (2 weeks)
- Pitt (2 weeks)
- Oregon (2 weeks)
- Loma Linda (2 weeks)
Research: 1 JADA publication (non OMS related)
1 cheesy JDE abstract/poster presentation
2 more gay projects
Extracurriculars: A Bunch of cheese.
Programs applied to/Interviews received/Interviews Attended/Ranked programs: 18/17/8/8

 

[Doggie]

Alright gentlemen (& ladies), this dental residency forum is dying out. All they talk about is "Future of Perio"! Who cares about Perio. Lets post some stats. I know there are at least 20 of us out there that have matched in OMFS residencies. Lets share, now you've matched, no need to have secrets! This is strictly a reference tool for future OMFS hopefuls.

dooood. What are you talking about? Perio is the future of dentistry!!

 

[esclavo]

Alright gentlemen (& ladies), this dental residency forum is dying out. All they talk about is "Future of Perio"! Who cares about Perio. Lets post some stats. I know there are at least 20 of us out there that have matched in OMFS residencies. Lets share, now you've matched, no need to have secrets! This is strictly a reference tool for future OMFS hopefuls.

Who are you kidding!.... admit it, you love watching us antagonize and fight with the "gingival plastic surgeons".... but then again, you probably also would like watching a dog fight between a pit bull and a chihuahua....

 

[north2southOMFS]

Who are you kidding!.... admit it, you love watching us antagonize and fight with the "gingival plastic surgeons".... but then again, you probably also would like watching a dog fight between a pit bull and a chihuahua....

Somehow esclavo i'm thinking your always rooting for the chihuahua.

 

[Mouthjaw]

Who are you kidding!.... admit it, you love watching us antagonize and fight with the "gingival plastic surgeons".... but then again, you probably also would like watching a dog fight between a pit bull and a chihuahua....

Maybe some "gingival plastic surgery" would improve some of your restorative related cases? I guess you are too busy extracting teeth and fixing jaws to worry yourself over about something so minor or insignificant as the gingiva or maybe you are just too busy riding your donkey?

 

[esclavo]

Maybe some "gingival plastic surgery" would improve some of your restorative related cases? I guess you are too busy extracting teeth and fixing jaws to worry yourself over about something so minor or insignificant as the gingiva or maybe you are just too busy riding your donkey?

Taking care of gingiva is easy, that is why I don't worry about it. If I can take care of the conjunctiva, the lids, the face, the lips, the posterior pharynx, the soft palate, the scalp, the auricle, nasal mucosa, then why would I worry about any soft tissue. My point is oral soft tissue issues are easy. Try repairing a lacerated lacrimal duct or an avulsed lower lid and you'll understand that taking care of gingiva is straight forward, easy and everyone in our profession (dental) can do it....Gingival carpetry/tapestry is not "plastic surgery". Perio has contributed some good information to tissue engineering but take a step back and it really is so simple....

 

[Doggie]

Taking care of gingiva is easy, that is why I don't worry about it. If I can take care of the conjunctiva, the lids, the face, the lips, the posterior pharynx, the soft palate, the scalp, the auricle, nasal mucosa, then why would I worry about any soft tissue. My point is oral soft tissue issues are easy. Try repairing a lacerated lacrimal duct or an avulsed lower lid and you'll understand that taking care of gingiva is straight forward, easy and everyone in our profession (dental) can do it....Gingival carpetry/tapestry is not "plastic surgery". Perio has contributed some good information to tissue engineering but take a step back and it really is so simple....

I especially love it when people come in with through and through lip laceration. It's funny how stupid the patient can look with a misaligned vermillion border.

 

[OMFSdoc]

Periodontology is NOT SURGERY!!!!!! Every surgical specialty in medicine/dentistry that calls themselves SURGEONS must spend time on a general surgery service. Orthopedics, Neurosurgery, ENT, Urology, OMFS, and Cardiothoracic surgeons all have something in common......they ALL spent time on the general surgery service at the hospital. This is where we learn the fundamentals of surgery. Other medical/dental specialists pediatricians, pediatric dentists, internists, endocrinologists, endodontists, orthodontists, cardiologists, nephrologists, periodontists and prosthodontists are not surgeons. They are all wonderful doctors that have learned their specialties well, but are not surgeons and don't claim to be surgeons (except periodontists). Perio dudes, if you want to be a surgeon, spend time on a general surgery service and earn it, don't just call yourself one because you are allowed to cut oral mucosa. If that were true, then every dentist is a surgeon. You don't see pedodontists claiming to be surgeons do you? Then why are you?

 

[headsup]

Periodontology is NOT SURGERY!!!!!! ... You don't see pedodontists claiming to be surgeons do you? Then why are you?

Wow dude... take it easy... who cares what people wanna call themselves!!!!
let them be...relax and enjoy the stupidity of the one who calls him/herself the things they are not and can't be!!! It wouldn't make you any less... some wanna call themselves surgeons, some kings and some J ro bling bling... who cares...

other than that, please post some stats so us specialty hopefuls can learn something...
regards

 

[esclavo]

Periodontology is NOT SURGERY!!!!!! Every surgical specialty in medicine/dentistry that calls themselves SURGEONS must spend time on a general surgery service. Orthopedics, Neurosurgery, ENT, Urology, OMFS, and Cardiothoracic surgeons all have something in common......they ALL spent time on the general surgery service at the hospital. This is where we learn the fundamentals of surgery. Other medical/dental specialists pediatricians, pediatric dentists, internists, endocrinologists, endodontists, orthodontists, cardiologists, nephrologists, periodontists and prosthodontists are not surgeons. They are all wonderful doctors that have learned their specialties well, but are not surgeons and don't claim to be surgeons (except periodontists). Perio dudes, if you want to be a surgeon, spend time on a general surgery service and earn it, don't just call yourself one because you are allowed to cut oral mucosa. If that were true, then every dentist is a surgeon. You don't see pedodontists claiming to be surgeons do you? Then why are you?

Thus there exists proceeduralists or surgeon on the consent form.... Could you imagine a periodontist on general surgery? Just the though of it brings tears to my eyes I'm laughing so hard. It would be like a snail trying to make its way out of a bag of salt! They would disintegrate before the day began....

 

[gumgardener2009]

all i see are ortho and oms stats. What's the word on perio, endo, pedo, and prostho? Does no one who enters those specialties post here?

Oms wannabes scared the others away. I've been away for about 6 months and nothing has changed. Might as well make this my last post and go down swinging. I'm posting my stats knowing I'll take a few arrows in the back, but maybe I can help a future perio applicant. My stats are decent, I guess. I know you can get into a program with lower stats, just not necessarily your first choice (true of every specialty except ortho and endo; please, just admit it!)

Specialty/Where: Perio/Somewhere warmer than Cleveland
Dental School Attended:Case
Year Earned DDS: 2006
NBDE Part I/II scores: 92/89
Class Ranking: last I saw 18/70
Match/Non-Match:Non-match
Externship(s): 1 for 1 week
Research: 1 summer on something I no longer understand; got an award at AADR
Extracurriculars: Held presidency in about 3 clubs.
Programs applied to/Interviews received/Interviews Attended: 5/4/2 (took offer after 2nd interview)

 

[UABDentist]

For this year's applicants....
Bump!

 

[Doggie]

For this year's applicants....
Bump!

this is the proper way to bump.

Bumping with friends.

After you bump n grind.

The "coughing" bump.

Submandibular bump.

 

[UABDentist]

Ouch!

this is the proper way to bump.

Bumping with friends.

After you bump n grind.

The "coughing" bump.

Submandibular bump.

 

[SweetTooth85]

Where can I find the rankings of these programs?

 

[rjarvis]

Periodontology is NOT SURGERY!!!!!! Every surgical specialty in medicine/dentistry that calls themselves SURGEONS must spend time on a general surgery service. Orthopedics, Neurosurgery, ENT, Urology, OMFS, and Cardiothoracic surgeons all have something in common......they ALL spent time on the general surgery service at the hospital. This is where we learn the fundamentals of surgery. Other medical/dental specialists pediatricians, pediatric dentists, internists, endocrinologists, endodontists, orthodontists, cardiologists, nephrologists, periodontists and prosthodontists are not surgeons. They are all wonderful doctors that have learned their specialties well, but are not surgeons and don't claim to be surgeons (except periodontists). Perio dudes, if you want to be a surgeon, spend time on a general surgery service and earn it, don't just call yourself one because you are allowed to cut oral mucosa. If that were true, then every dentist is a surgeon. You don't see pedodontists claiming to be surgeons do you? Then why are you?

then why do they call the degree a doctor of dental surgery

 

[Yah-E]

then why do they call the degree a doctor of dental surgery

I remember first week of dental school how restorative faculty emphasized that we, dentists, are surgeons because we use a handpiece with a cutting bur at some 40000 RPM cutting into live tissue (ie. enamel & dentin). Due to this technical fact, that makes dentists surgeons.

Now, you start to think, cutting open a skull, chest cavity, a face, or cutting off a limb is sure different than cutting into a tooth, but cutting is cutting, right? Wrong! I believe the risk factor of cutting whatever you're cutting into and at what level of skills or training one may require has to be evaluated in turn to legitimately call themselves a "surgeon".

If I were to be a general dentist, I would NEVER call myself a "surgeon"! This is another reason why I like my Doctor of Dental Medicine (DMD) degree better.

 

[aphistis]

I remember first week of dental school how restorative faculty emphasized that we, dentists, are surgeons because we use a handpiece with a cutting bur at some 40000 RPM cutting into live tissue (ie. enamel & dentin). Due to this technical fact, that makes dentists surgeons.

Now, you start to think, cutting open a skull, chest cavity, a face, or cutting off a limb is sure different than cutting into a tooth, but cutting is cutting, right? Wrong! I believe the risk factor of cutting whatever you're cutting into and at what level of skills or training one may require has to be evaluated in turn to legitimately call themselves a "surgeon".

If I were to be a general dentist, I would NEVER call myself a "surgeon"! This is another reason why I like my Doctor of Dental Medicine (DMD) degree better.

Enh. It's kind of a crap shoot either way, but my personal inclination is to suggest that the overwhelming majority of general dentistry leans much more heavily toward surgery than toward medicine.

 

[TiggerJSA]

Enh. It's kind of a crap shoot either way, but my personal inclination is to suggest that the overwhelming majority of general dentistry leans much more heavily toward surgery than toward medicine.

C'mon guys... Stupid f-ing debate. Not to sound like a moderator, but for the sake of those applying this year (and future years), let's stick to the original topic:

Specialty/Where:
Dental School Attended:
Year Earned DMD/DDS:
NBDE Part I/II scores:
Class Ranking:
Match/Non-Match:
Externship(s):
Research:
Extracurriculars:

You guys wanna have this silly debate, create a new thread...

 

[Extraction]

If I were to be a general dentist, I would NEVER call myself a "surgeon"! This is another reason why I like my Doctor of Dental Medicine (DMD) degree better.

I think you may need to re-assess this opinion after you've had several months of internal medicine,general surgery and OB/gyn and have gained some REAL perspective. General dentistry much more closely resembles the surgical rather than the medical model of treating patients. Typically, dentists perform procedures and do not typically prescribe medication to medically manage the patients oral disease.

As far as your opinion of what constitutes surgery, you need to look at the BS that MDs take to the OR. Appendectomies, cholecystectomies, I&Ds of shooter's abcesses, hemmorhoids, condylomas, and most gynecologic procedures are pretty straight forward and minor. The majority of procedures 'surgeons' take to the OR are alot less dramatic than those you have described. I believe you'll have a much better appreciation of this after you have gone through your medical rotations. I certainly do not think you should put down the complexity of general dentistry. Many of the restorative procedures done in general dentistry require a high level of skill, and alot of surgeries are pretty crude (ie cutting off a limb with gigli saw)

Procedures performed in dentistry are not life and death but are surgeries none the less. Take some pride in your dental degree. I have a DMD, but believe the DDS is a much better description of of what we as dentists do....

 

[Doggie]

........... (ie cutting off a limb with gigli saw).......

Oh.......that's what Quagmire was referring to all this time.......Oh yeah!

 

[toofache32]

As far as your opinion of what constitutes surgery, you need to look at the BS that MDs take to the OR.....

AMEN to that!! I never realized the magnitude of our (OMFS) anesthesia training until I spent time on general surgery. They take every freakin' ditzel to the OR.

 

[El Guapo78]

Oh.......that's what Quagmire was referring to all this time.......Oh yeah!

giggity saw

 

[Doggie]

giggity saw

I was very tempted to steal your avatar......but this was the next best thing i could find....giggity giggity saw

 

[Ankylosed]

I think you may need to re-assess this opinion after you've had several months of internal medicine,general surgery and OB/gyn and have gained some REAL perspective. believe the DDS is a much better description of of what we as dentists do....

Wow, that's some great experience you have there, but I have to chyme in on this one.. The procedures you listed sound like you have been been spending to much time in the APD OR. Yes, we do these cases in the main OR, but many times they are laparoscopic which are difficult in their own right. If you're going to mention these surgical services, you can at least mention some of the more difficult cases we do on a daily basis such as abd hysts, liver resections, tibial plateu fx, total joint REVISIONS, etc which is often times what we see in the REAL OR. I have seen pt's fall into hypovolemic shock on every single one of these cases. I wouldn't really call these cases BS and unnecessary to bring to the OR. Go get your hands wet on a whipple and then come talk to me. As for dentistry, I totally agree that there are complex surgical cases that qualify as surgical, but on a microscale (excluding OMFS). Just because an appendectomy may be simple and routine, does not make it unworthy of surgical status. Also, where are you using gigli saws for amputations, in Haiti? We use stryker sagittal saws in the OR, and gigli saws for tissue harvesting b/c we are a cheap a$$ not for profit company. As for the DMD vs. DDS degree, I'm pretty sure he was joking..

 

[Extraction]

As for dentistry, I totally agree that there are complex surgical cases that qualify as surgical, but on a microscale (excluding OMFS).

That was my point..... Thanks.
And YES I am in Haiti.
giggity giggity

 

[toofache32]

Gigli saws are very common at my program. Why spend the time and effort for the Stryker? I've amputated a leg in 38 seconds with a gigli saw....soft and hard tissue.