Neurosurgery in Sweden

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doctorWho11

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Hey guys! What do you know about neurosurgery residency in Sweden? Can I begin with neurology and then with the rotations get in surgery? Also how many years is it?
P.S. I'm curious too, is easy to get this residency at Korolinska sjukhuset?
Thanx in advance, any answer will be really helpful!

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It's pretty much next to impossible to do specialty training in Sweden (and even Norway for that matter of fact.) The reason being, they're just saturated in terms of specialty training places for their own medical graduates.

So a place at Karolinska is something like a non-US citizen/green card holder wanting to get into Plastics (might be possible but is usually pretty rare especially given the current environment for IMGs.)

Sweden does however, accept specialty training obtained in other countries, so if you really want to live/work in Sweden, then I'd recommend you to first do your specialty training in another country (preferably a Western European one) and then move to Sweden.
 
What about starting with surgery and then go to neurosurgery. Or start with neurology and then do surgery. Would that be more easy? Also how many years is as specialty? And how is it seperated?
Thanx for your answer! :D
 
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I believe Europe on the whole is a lot more flexible than the EU when it comes to switching specialties. One of the reason could be that the the duration of most of these programs are pretty long, so they might let you switch between related specialties (eg. surgical ones v. medicine as it's specialties.) I don't think it will be possible to switch from Neurology to Surgery as they're not that related.

I think Neurosurgery is 6-7 years. Not entirely sure.
 
Well thanks a lot! So do I have any chances to become a neurosurgeon in Sweden with the prespective to live there. I study in Greece, and I'm learning swedish. I like life in Sverige and also the health system there is amazing. So is my dream is to get specialised there and live in Sweden. What's your opinion?
 
Well thanks a lot! So do I have any chances to become a neurosurgeon in Sweden with the prespective to live there. I study in Greece, and I'm learning swedish. I like life in Sverige and also the health system there is amazing. So is my dream is to get specialised there and live in Sweden. What's your opinion?
It sounds like you have a very idealized view of Sweden in general. As the previous poster pointed out, your chance of obtaining a neurosurgery residency at Karolinska is negligible. Your best shot would be to do your specialization in your home country and then try your luck. Though I'm a bit curious, why in particular?
 
doctorWho11: Are you an EU citizen? If you are, then you can pursue your specialty training in Sweden. If you're not then it'll be next to impossible.

If you are an EU citizen, you start off by applying to the AT program (Turnus), which is a 1 year internship program. At the end of AT, you take an exam and then compete for a spot in a field of choice. This is a pretty competitive process and Scandinavian students (ie. students from Sweden, followed by those from Norway and Denmark) get the 1st preference.

Regarding getting a training spot in Karolinska, I already mentioned that it's highly competitive and most spots go to students in Swedish medical schools (it's even competitive for them!), so unless you have a stellar CV (excellent grades in medical school, research with publications, clinical attachments/exposure in Sweden), getting is in not really realistic.
 
doctorWho11:
If you are an EU citizen, you start off by applying to the AT program (Turnus), which is a 1 year internship program. At the end of AT, you take an exam and then compete for a spot in a field of choice. This is a pretty competitive process and Scandinavian students (ie. students from Sweden, followed by those from Norway and Denmark) get the 1st preference.
It's actually a 18-21 month long program, which graduates enter on average 1.5 years(Stockholm) after graduation due to the high competitiveness and low number of spots. The truth is the situation is actually worsening with more than half of Swedish medical students studying abroad (e.g Poland) and wishing to return home after securing their degree. I think foreigners are unlikely to be given priority in the years to come.
 
Thanks for the correction AnalisCanalis. Yes you're right, I believe Sweden is an ideal place for non-EU medical graduates. A much better choice if you're an EU trained specialist.
 
Yes I am an EU citizen, I'm from Greece actually. I love neurosurgery+I love sweden= <3 neurosurgery in Sweden (it's easy maths ;) )
Doing my neurosurgery training in Karolinska would be a great dream!!! But of course I would be very happy if I achieved my neurosurgery in other cities, such as Uppsala, Umeå and whatever else.
 
Yes I am an EU citizen, I'm from Greece actually. I love neurosurgery+I love sweden= <3 neurosurgery in Sweden (it's easy maths ;) )
Doing my neurosurgery training in Karolinska would be a great dream!!! But of course I would be very happy if I achieved my neurosurgery in other cities, such as Uppsala, Umeå and whatever else.
In that case, Umeå would probably be your best shot. Neurosurgery is a small field and the largest neurosurgical center in Sweden, which would be Karolinska, accepts 1-2 residents each year(atleast that's what their website states). I would imagine Umeå accepts residents less often. Keep in mind that although it's not a formal requirement you would probably still need to do the AT program and after that work a few years in your department of choice to get to know the right people before having a reasonable chance of obtaining a residency. Research is probably required to some degree, the more the better. I sincerely hope that you achieve your dream, though my personal recommendation is that you complete your residency in Greece before moving. I'm sorry to be the bearer of such harsh news.
 
Thank you for your immediate response AnalisCanalis. I really hope things change in Greece. The expected time till a new residency position is free for neurosurgery would be at least 3-5 years. That's why I see Sweden as a solution.
 
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