Neurology salaries?

[jacksonianmarch]

Does anyone have an idea about salaries in neurology, in terms of sub-specialties?.........

EMG/neuromuscular?

botox?

sleep?

EEG/intraop monitoring?

stroke?

neurocritical care?

endovascular neurology?

neuro-oncology?

neuro-immunology/ MS?

neuro-opth?

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[sirvandy]

I'd just like to know what the average income is for all neurologists. Also, what is the average work-week in terms of hours/week. How much does malpractice insurance cut into your income?

 

[Unsure Person]

I have recently been wondering about the same thing. I am seriously considering applying for a neurology residency in this year's Match. I am interested in academics (50-75% basic science research, the remainder clinical work), so off the bat, I realize my salary is not going to be high. But recently, reality has hit me: I do have a family including aging, unhealthy, and dependent parents to take care of. The truth is, I am academically ambitious, so I don't want to spend my time worrying about whether I can support my whole family comfortably. Therefore, I am also wondering what the salary is for the subspecialties in neurology. I looked everywhere on the web for estimated salaries for neuro-oncologist and neuro-physiologists, but couldn't find any info. I would really appreciate any info from anyone. Thank you in advance.

 

[swedcrip]

I have recently been wondering about the same thing. I am seriously considering applying for a neurology residency in this year's Match. I am interested in academics (50-75% basic science research, the remainder clinical work), so off the bat, I realize my salary is not going to be high. But recently, reality has hit me: I do have a family including aging, unhealthy, and dependent parents to take care of. The truth is, I am academically ambitious, so I don't want to spend my time worrying about whether I can support my whole family comfortably. Therefore, I am also wondering what the salary is for the subspecialties in neurology. I looked everywhere on the web for estimated salaries for neuro-oncologist and neuro-physiologists, but couldn't find any info. I would really appreciate any info from anyone. Thank you in advance.

as an academic, I'd be surprised if it'd be much higher than the IM faculty at your school (maybe by asking around you can find out what they make)

in certain subspecialties (EMG, sleep studies, botox injections - movement disorders can do that, etc) if you do procedures, you'll probably get paid more

it all depends on what you mean by "support my whole family". is it a family of 4 or 14? are they kennedy's or have more middle-class expectations?

I'm sure it's less that plastics, orthopedics, and probably derm. comepetitivess usually closely correlates with salary if haven't noticed.

I've heard that neurophysiologists can start making twice what FP & Peds start at (just a couple examples but that's more private practice). Judging by how many academic programs can't get a neurooncologist, they're probably in demand (will make more than average faculty member in neuro). at the academic level, most programs don't have but 1-2 if any general neurologists. so they're mostly all "subspecialists". Even many who go into private practice do a year of EMG fellowship.

Hopefully someone here can private message you some #'s. PEople higher up than me probably have a good handle on some of the #'s, but might not want to post it here and won't be 100% sure (no double-blind randomly-controlled studies on these kinds of topics).

Just remember that cash practices pay more (plastics, some derm, etc). Procedures get paid more than thinking (EMG vs. alzheimer's).

I heard that oncologists have been doing well by being in the business of selling the chemo themselves, but that the government is going to seriously crack down on that very soon

 

[Unsure Person]

as an academic, I'd be surprised if it'd be much higher than the IM faculty at your school (maybe by asking around you can find out what they make)

in certain subspecialties (EMG, sleep studies, botox injections - movement disorders can do that, etc) if you do procedures, you'll probably get paid more

it all depends on what you mean by "support my whole family". is it a family of 4 or 14? are they kennedy's or have more middle-class expectations?

I'm sure it's less that plastics, orthopedics, and probably derm. comepetitivess usually closely correlates with salary if haven't noticed.

I've heard that neurophysiologists can start making twice what FP & Peds start at (just a couple examples but that's more private practice). Judging by how many academic programs can't get a neurooncologist, they're probably in demand (will make more than average faculty member in neuro). at the academic level, most programs don't have but 1-2 if any general neurologists. so they're mostly all "subspecialists". Even many who go into private practice do a year of EMG fellowship.

Hopefully someone here can private message you some #'s. PEople higher up than me probably have a good handle on some of the #'s, but might not want to post it here and won't be 100% sure (no double-blind randomly-controlled studies on these kinds of topics).

Just remember that cash practices pay more (plastics, some derm, etc). Procedures get paid more than thinking (EMG vs. alzheimer's).

I heard that oncologists have been doing well by being in the business of selling the chemo themselves, but that the government is going to seriously crack down on that very soon

Thank you for your reply. I have come to an important decision in my life: choosing what I want to do for the rest of my life. Having been selfish until now, optimizing my education for myself for years and years, I feel like I should consider what is now best for not only myself but also my family. I would like simply to earn what an average neurologist in private practice makes, but I am really wanting to stay in academics, where my heart is. I guess I cannot have my cake and eat it. :-( You are correct, academic neurologists make around the same amount as IM faculty, whom I feel are significantly underpaid when one taxes 40%+ of their salary. I am looking to find my niche - a specialty (e.g. neurology) or subspecialty (neuro-oncology, neurophysiology, stroke, or sleep) where I can do cutting edge research and see patients while also having financial comfort. I grew up in a somewhat low-income household that lived on a month to month basis, constantly facing financial struggles, and I don't want my loved ones to have to go through that anymore. Yet I want to stay in a neuro academic field, where I know I have potential to excel and will contribute positively to society. I guess its hard for me to accept that an academic neurologist doesn't make more than an IM. If anyone would like to private message me for further dialogue, I would love to hear what you have to say. Thank you.

 

[neuroma]

do what you enjoy. you will be happier and subsequently so will your family. want lots of money...go into business.

 

[Mitogen79]

the average that I've read for neurologists (in private practice) is around 175,000. Obviuosly, if you're doing EMG's/EEG's/Sleep Disorder Medicine, you will make much more... as an academician, you would make significantly less... my personal interest is Neuro-Oncology, and I've been told by many a neuro-oncologist that it is probably the least profitable subspeciality in neurology, largely becuase neuro-onc is still a very academic field...

the bottom line, most neurologists aren't neurologists because they want to live a fabulous lifestyle; they do it because of a passion for the neural sciences. Don't let the financial security of any one particular field guide your decision to enter that profession; go with your interests and be happy

vish~

PS: for those of you still wanting to know more, there was a similar thread started in the neurology forum that spoke to a lot of concerns/issues/information about salaries in neurology; you may wish to search for it.

 

[swedcrip]

I've been told by many a neuro-oncologist that it is probably the least profitable subspeciality in neurology, largely becuase neuro-onc is still a very academic field...

come on, I think behavioral neurology has you beat (something I'm considering). 1 hour interviewing each Alzheimer's patient.