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I'm curious about this so I'm gonna throw this out to the path residents who chill on SDN...How many interviews did you go to before you felt burnt out?
AndyMilonakis said:I'm curious about this so I'm gonna throw this out to the path residents who chill on SDN...How many interviews did you go to before you felt burnt out?
deschutes said:How often do you get to talk about pathology ("You hear me? I said AUTOPSY!") in public for a straight two hours over a fine dinner, I ask you?
In which case I would have been forced to give up the very excellent (and I am being entirely serious) tofu spinach fettucine? Not a chance!AndyMilonakis said:Even during lunch. No eating. Only talking!
deschutes said:In which case I would have been forced to give up the very excellent (and I am being entirely serious) tofu spinach fettucine? Not a chance!
yaah said:The residents are also very good here - it is true that most people seem to go into private practice but I have a feeling this is going to change in the future - a lot of the younger residents have more academic ambitions. The interesting thing is that lots of the faculty have experience in both, having done private practice before entering academics.
In regards to the chair stepping down, at some programs this may be a problem, but frankly, the chair here doesn't do much. He is a straight researcher and the only time the residents ever see him is during your residency interview (if at all then) and maybe here and there when he shows up at a research lecture. The program runs well and a new chair is not likely to change a whole lot. However, having a new, involved chair will only help. So definitely don't be turned off by this.
There are also lots of fellowships here - except for dermpath currently and neuropath. Dermpath here is sort of run by dermatology-trained people.
It is definitely a big program, and something for everyone.
AndyMilonakis said:I heard today that there could be a derm path fellowship as soon as next year. Yaah, is this true? Not that this is a huge factor for me to begin with but I was just curious. As for neuropath, two of my interviewers told me that neuropath is a bit weak here so if you're whole goal is to focus on NP or if you wanted to do AP/NP, Michigan may not be the optimal place.
cytoborg said:It sounds like they spend an awful lot of time grossing, and don't get to see much under the scope. I gathered that this has been a matter of some ongoing debate in the department and that they have yet to find the ideal balance.
cytoborg said:Oddly enough, I didn't get to meet any upper level residents and so didn't have the opportunity to ask whether they felt this was detrimental in boards preparation...it sounds like the pass rates are only in the 80s compared to 100% at some other places I've visited.
cytoborg said:Also, most of the residents actually live in nearby Durham, which is a bit of a hole, not cutesy Chapel Hill. So while I still like the idea of UNC, I'm now unsure where they will sit on my ROL.
Havarti666 said:I didn't get the feel that they spent all their time grossing, but that their surg path schedule was the single biggest point of contention within the program. I admit, it seems less than ideal, but it certainly hasn't prevented them from churning out sought-after pathologists.
I got this sense too, mainly from talking to a friend who works at Research Triangle Park. Durham is a bit of a hole based on my visit (albeit brief) there a few years ago. The college town in Chapel Hill is awesome.Havarti666 said:Such is the irony of Chapel Hill. The residents tend to live in Durham because purchasing housing in CH has gotten rather expensive. Rent is still pretty cheap there, though. Personally I would rather rent in a vibrant college Mecca than chase equity in Durham.
Fo shizzle? Did I meet you when I was at UNC? I think I did meet a med student (briefly) who was doing a rotation at UNC; didn't suspect that was you though.Havarti666 said:Experience three: Walking by Andy at UNC while he was interviewing. Biz-nitchin, to be sure.
Havarti666 said:I have been lax about updating my experiences.
Experience one: Emory - they rock. What can I say? Totally biz-nitchin.
Experience two: UTSW - they also rock. Utterly biz-nitchin.
QuietSylph said:Tell us more! Please!
QuietSylph said:Tell us more! Please!
AndyMilonakis said:Fo shizzle? Did I meet you when I was at UNC?
AndyMilonakis said:At Emory, did you get to meet Tristam Parslow? I wonder what his personality is like. (He rejected my ass from UCSF's MSTP program a long while ago).
garfield said:By the way, folks, Havarti's cute. Had lunch with him, though he didn't know it.
Havarti666 said:When I interviewed there I had lunch with two upper levels, and their story was that the only person to fail boards in recent memory was a forensics geek who passed them on the second go. I sat on some of their morning conferences, and I can't imagine them passing in the 80's. They're a sharp bunch. Hell, if they really are only passing 4 out of 5 then the rest of us are in real, real trouble.
stormjen said:Please describe. Thank you.
Havarti666 said:Oh, great. My girlfriend already thinks I'm having torrid online affairs with you and QuietSylph. No doubt Garfield will now be added to my list imaginary conquests.
cool cool...small world ain't it?Havarti666 said:Nah, I just brushed past you in the hallway leading to Brinkhouse-Bullitt.
That's odd. I would think that at almost all interviews, the applicant would meet with at least the PD. Out of the 3 interviews, I've met with the PD at all 3. I only met the chair at UNC which was an improptu meeting since he happened to be in his office the day I was there.Havarti666 said:Nope, didn't have the opportunity. He was apparently out of town when I was there. That seems to be standard for me. I have had four interviews and met one Chair on the interview day (and it was Dr. Wilkinson at MCV, my home institution). I did meet UNC's Chair, but only because I scheduled some time with him before I left my rotation there.
stormjen said:tall is good.
AndyMilonakis said:should we take away any kind of negative message if we don't have the chance to sit down and talk with the chair or PD?
yaah said:Is that so?
garfield said:Hey Havarti:
I'm glad you liked UTSW. We have a lot of fun here.
Havarti666 said:This reminds me of my IM rotation at our VA. I'm 6'4", the attending was 6'7", and our female chief resident was 6'0". The other teams referred to us as "The Team of Giants." Another group, the so-called "Team of Elves" had their front three ring in at a maximum of 5'4".
And yes, it being IM, that was the only amusement to be had that month.
Havarti666 said:That's a tough question. I personally doubt that it's a big deal, more likely just an unfortunate coincidence. PD's certainly can't all be around for every interview day (although I'm 4/4 so far), and Chairs tend to be very busy people. I'm sure the residents at Wash U can give you the scoop on what your missing. And if you really just love the Hell out of the place you can always take a second look and meet the PD and the Chair. They might eat that up.
yaah said:There was an orthopedic guy at my med school who was 6'10" and I felt short. I had a pediatrics team I was on where the two residents (one man, one woman) were both about 5'4", the other med student was 5'5" and the pharmacy student was about 5'2". Then there was me. I was very tired of the tall jokes by the end of the rotation.
AndyMilonakis said:Yeah, I'm at around 5'4'' to 5'5'' depends on the shoes I wear that day. Kinda like how Kim Jong Il gains about 4 inches with his boots on. Anyways, on my subI month, there was actually a student who was shorter than me. I kept uttering during rounds, "Where she go?".
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