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Hey ppl,

I just returned for my winter break from my first semester at Sri Ramachandra Medical college and RI and it was fantastic.

The facilities are top class and the learning environment is nothing less than perfect. The college does a great job in instilling within us the pride and dignity in being a Medical student and becoming a doctor. :rolleyes:

Now here's the most important area of concern for NRI's and I hope this bit of news gives those willing to join SRMC in future loads of reassurance. All NRI's from SRMC till date have successfully cleared their USMLE's with really good scores and not one till date has had even an inch of a problem acquiring residencies in the United States.

I hope everyone willing to pursue Med schooling in India considers the prospect of going to SRMC because of all the places that inspite of the many places I had applied to and visited, I have absolutely no regrets in choosing this place.

Oh..and some NRI's did ask me about grades they require etc...just pass high schooland most importantly APPLY AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE WITH A CHECK OF AT LEAST $20,000.00.

Thank You.

Feels great to be back on this forum again. :thumbup:

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Souvik,
I've been wanting to attend medical school in India for quite a while now. Currently, I'm applying to the Texas schools, but really would like to pursue my medical degree in India. What's it like at Sri Ramachandra Medical College? Is it difficult to get accustomed to? What is the grading like, what is a typical day, and why did you choose India? If you can give us a bit of your background, I'd really appreciate it.

Best of luck,
Thanks,
Pagal
 
Dr.BilkulPagal said:
Souvik,
I've been wanting to attend medical school in India for quite a while now. Currently, I'm applying to the Texas schools, but really would like to pursue my medical degree in India. What's it like at Sri Ramachandra Medical College? Is it difficult to get accustomed to? What is the grading like, what is a typical day, and why did you choose India? If you can give us a bit of your background, I'd really appreciate it.

Best of luck,
Thanks,
Pagal


Sure I can,

To start off with, I did my undergrad in Wisconsin (University of Wisconsin-Madison).

Now, at this point of time I really didn't know what I wanted to do with my life and considering that my Dad was an Anaesthesiologist in the Caribbean, made it kinda easier for me to take a drastic decision!
Now why did I choose India.....Well it was primarily my Dad's inclination because the Medical schooling in India is very very thorough in every aspect with heavy emphasis on practical knowledge. (Cadavers are an important part of our anatomy curriculum in the first year itself!).
The typical day starts with our classes beginning at 8 a.m.. Lunch at 12..going on till 1. Another hr of class again and Cadavers from 2 to 4 p.m. After that, ure pretty much free to do what you want..study,sleep, go out, chill in your room etc....

For NRI's it's 100 times better cuz we have our own block with our own group of friends, acquaintances etc and the management takes care of us much better since we're paying a **** load more...
If you do decide to come we'll hit you up and sort you out there ...u'll fit in real well because you have some really good ppl in the senior NRI batches...
The campus is huge and it's beautiful...food sux (unless u order of course)...

The course is very different from the way u go about it in the US.....exams are 70% subjective esaay type questions and 30% mcq based so u'll have to get used to that big time...but it equips you better with basic knowledge for ure residencies...but we can always help you out here since we know the ropes now.....
till now i have passed all my exams and the key to doing well besides studying is expecting the right questions and knowing how to present ure answers...ure senior's will help u in both of these aspects.

I hope this helps..u can hit me up again with anymore questions..and I do have a friend there from Texas as well so u'll find this pretty reassuring.

Peace.

Souvik.
 
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Souvik_Sen said:
Sure I can,

To start off with, I did my undergrad in Wisconsin (University of Wisconsin-Madison).

Now, at this point of time I really didn't know what I wanted to do with my life and considering that my Dad was an Anaesthesiologist in the Caribbean, made it kinda easier for me to take a drastic decision!
Now why did I choose India.....Well it was primarily my Dad's inclination because the Medical schooling in India is very very thorough in every aspect with heavy emphasis on practical knowledge. (Cadavers are an important part of our anatomy curriculum in the first year itself!).
The typical day starts with our classes beginning at 8 a.m.. Lunch at 12..going on till 1. Another hr of class again and Cadavers from 2 to 4 p.m. After that, ure pretty much free to do what you want..study,sleep, go out, chill in your room etc....

For NRI's it's 100 times better cuz we have our own block with our own group of friends, acquaintances etc and the management takes care of us much better since we're paying a **** load more...
If you do decide to come we'll hit you up and sort you out there ...u'll fit in real well because you have some really good ppl in the senior NRI batches...
The campus is huge and it's beautiful...food sux (unless u order of course)...

The course is very different from the way u go about it in the US.....exams are 70% subjective esaay type questions and 30% mcq based so u'll have to get used to that big time...but it equips you better with basic knowledge for ure residencies...but we can always help you out here since we know the ropes now.....
till now i have passed all my exams and the key to doing well besides studying is expecting the right questions and knowing how to present ure answers...ure senior's will help u in both of these aspects.

I hope this helps..u can hit me up again with anymore questions..and I do have a friend there from Texas as well so u'll find this pretty reassuring.

Peace.

Souvik.


Hey Souvik,.... I can't believe you post on these forums too. smaill world dude. Go TROJANS!
 
Hi Souvik,
Thanks so much for your information. i want your e-mail address. How to start and when to start the process. Do we need to pay all 75k at one time or every year. What are the formalities. i am south indian. NRI from NJ.


Souvik_Sen said:
Hey ppl,

I just returned for my winter break from my first semester at Sri Ramachandra Medical college and RI and it was fantastic.

The facilities are top class and the learning environment is nothing less than perfect. The college does a great job in instilling within us the pride and dignity in being a Medical student and becoming a doctor. :rolleyes:

Now here's the most important area of concern for NRI's and I hope this bit of news gives those willing to join SRMC in future loads of reassurance. All NRI's from SRMC till date have successfully cleared their USMLE's with really good scores and not one till date has had even an inch of a problem acquiring residencies in the United States.

I hope everyone willing to pursue Med schooling in India considers the prospect of going to SRMC because of all the places that inspite of the many places I had applied to and visited, I have absolutely no regrets in choosing this place.

Oh..and some NRI's did ask me about grades they require etc...just pass high schooland most importantly APPLY AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE WITH A CHECK OF AT LEAST $20,000.00.

Thank You.

Feels great to be back on this forum again. :thumbup:
 
SRMC2008 said:
Hey Souvik,.... I can't believe you post on these forums too. smaill world dude. Go TROJANS!

Hey who is this?????
 
To all those who really want the truth,
I don't know what part of the SRMC College Mr.Souvik Sen attends, but it’s not a true description of SRMC & RI in my opinion. For those students who have interest in medicine from the USA, this is not the college for you if you ask me. I joined SRMC straight out of high school under impression how different can college in India be. I was certainly in for a shock.
In this message I plan on setting the truth straight on many topics for those who need to know the truth, so they don't make the same mistake that I have

1. grading system
 - The biggest difference between the academic world of the USA and India is that in India all grading is subjective. This means that regardless how correct an individual may be, it does not matter because it is left to the subjectivity of the professor grading your paper.
- ex. - in my first year of college the first examination I had was call an internal examination ( the portions being a whole system within the body) the exam has 10 questions(2 essays(15 pts each) and 8 short notes(5 pts each) and 30 multiple choice questions(MCQ's, 1 pt each). After receiving my score I felt I had been wronged in terms of the grading. I was then informed of the most outrageous information. the professor told me that even though I had written the right answer, the most points a student could get was 4 pts out of 5 pts short noteand with an essay the most being 13 pts out of 15 pts. When I asked why I was told that there is no way that I could have written a perfect answer (or that matter any student). I was very confused by this method of grading. So if you look at the whole out of a possible 100 pts one is being graded out of, the highest you could get is 88 pts. in order to pass any exam in India one must get 50% or higher. If you are confused by this, don’t worry I still am as well

2. Quality of education
 -For students from the USA, all of you (as did I) will realize how spoiled you were to have the teachers you did in high school. I can not comment on the quality of education in an American college as I have not attended one. NONE of the professors in SRMC have degrees in teaching at all. Don’t get me wrong now, the professors are all very smart and knowledgeable but outside of a select few none of them have a clue on how to teach a class. A majority of them don’t even teach, they just copy the text book on to an overhead projection and read it out loud. I don’t know about you but I could do same thing and I don’t consider myself a professor( to think I paid all that money for this caliber of teaching)
 -In my personal opinion I have not learned a damn thing from my professors in SRMC. All the studying & learning done was by me on my own in my room. The people who helped me the most would have to be the students that were senior to me. Without them I have no clue how I would made out med school in India
 -Now I know all of the students from the USA are a bit pampered in the sense they have not had to deal with extreme weather conditions. I struggled the first couple of years with the heat in India. And NO the classrooms were not air conditioned. All a fan does is rotate hot stale air. But for those who choose not to heed this warning you are in luck as SRMC has just recently air conditioned a majority of its classrooms. But when you hit your clinical years, touch luck, the hospital is not air conditioned.
 -oh yeah, on a odd note, all the guys sit on one side of the class room and girls sit on the other (just weird)
3. student rights
 -As this may not seem to be an important topic while thinking about what college you are going to attend. When it comes to SRMC it REALLY matters.
 -Since the college is a ‘deemed’ university, they have total autonomy over everything and I mean everything.
-Examples
-The college looks down upon students who relationships with the opposite sex and it has long been felt that students have been failed for this reason (remember grading system is subjective)
-There is a curfew for all students regardless of age (doesn’t matter if you have an undergraduate degree, they don’t care). This is if you stay on campus
-If a professor decides to pick on you in class or on rounds, you will have to swallow your pride, because if you respond back you can guarantee that you will be failed on purpose (this is a fact). And when I say picked on, I mean I been dogged just for the fact I am from USA , nothing else (words cannot do justice to my displeasure)
-By the end of your tenure in SRMC you will learn, in order to get through college in India, you better leave your pride at home and work on your brown nosing skills
 -Just to make things clear – ‘YOU AS A STUDENT IN SRMC HAVE NO RIGHTS’
4. occupancy
 -there are no co-ed dorms for any you that had other plans
 -If you are a male student that stays in the hostel (the Indian terminology for dorms) there are no TV’s. there are TV rooms which are not air conditioned and are very uncomfortable for one to watch TV
 -Female students have TV’s in their own rooms, but their room size is considerably smaller
 -Each NRI has their own room, with its own bathroom and air conditioning facilities
-This means you must buy your own A/C and have it installed
-You are given a desk, a cot, and metal closet
 -If you live in the hostel that usually means the majority of the food you will be eating is on campus.
-In order to eat at the NRI mess, one must walk about a half a mile each way (this is if you don’t have bike or a car)
-The food served at NRI mess if not even fit for a animal to eat, let alone it be a human
 -In order to get to college from the hostel you must walk about three quarters of a mile (no transport will provided for you regardless of weather conditions(try walking to class during monsoon season))
5. outlets
 -beside basketball and weight lifting there are no real outlets for NRI students on campus available on daily basis, so get ready to bored out of your mind(literally); and for females there are really no outlets period.
-In end the reason I write this as a message of good will. I don’t want anyone to go through what I went through just because they didn’t know. Going to college in SRMC is not cheap, it cost me $100,000 dollars up front cash. The only saving grace of SRMC is that I have met a lot good people that I expect to be my friends for life, but truth be told if I had a chance to do it again there is no way in hell would I go to SRMC knowing what I know now. Once again this is not to discredit what Mr.Souvik Sen has said his messages, that is if you don’t mind all the things that I have just explained above. Any questions email me at [email protected]
 
I do appreciate your post, as it was a different perspective from Souvik (#1 cheerleader of SRMC). One thing though truth_betold,

The college looks down upon students who relationships with the opposite sex and it has long been felt that students have been failed for this reason (remember grading system is subjective)

I'm guessing they approve of same-sex relationships??
 
sunny123 said:
I do appreciate your post, as it was a different perspective from Souvik (#1 cheerleader of SRMC). One thing though truth_betold,



PHP:
I'm guessing they approve of same-sex relationships??

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georgie boy (bengali babu)
you are really funny, I am laughing excactly as the animations in my previous posts
I am a little bit of confused here
I don't understand why so many people from usa and canada go to india to do their medicine??? :confused:
is it because of the cost or because you think you will get a better education and will make a good doctor out of you??
Are you guys confident that when you come back you will be assured of a residency in usa???
I graduated from india a long time ago , so I am totally out of touch with the developement of new medical and dental colleges , But I still want to know the advantages to go to india for medical education with the intention of coming back to usa??
After all it is not easy to adjust to the indian environment after staying all your life in america!! isn't it??
please clarify my doubts
 
Welcome to SDN..........SRMC is on hot seat....so many threads and posts....wow....
 
Souvik_Sen said:
Hey ppl,

Oh..and some NRI's did ask me about grades they require etc...just pass high schooland most importantly APPLY AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE WITH A CHECK OF AT LEAST $20,000.00.

Thank You
Hey,let people decide.I mean you are not advertising here... :thumbup:
 
sunny123 said:
I do appreciate your post, as it was a different perspective from Souvik (#1 cheerleader of SRMC). One thing though truth_betold,



PHP:
I'm guessing they approve of same-sex relationships?
?
Ha ...ha ...thats a good one.... :laugh: :laugh:
 
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nimeshshingala said:
georgie boy (bengali babu)
you are really funny, I am laughing excactly as the animations in my previous posts
I am a little bit of confused here
I don't understand why so many people from usa and canada go to india to do their medicine??? :confused:
is it because of the cost or because you think you will get a better education and will make a good doctor out of you??
Are you guys confident that when you come back you will be assured of a residency in usa???
I graduated from india a long time ago , so I am totally out of touch with the developement of new medical and dental colleges , But I still want to know the advantages to go to india for medical education with the intention of coming back to usa??
After all it is not easy to adjust to the indian environment after staying all your life in america!! isn't it??
please clarify my doubts
Actually,Nimesh i have also been thinking the same thing......why the hell r so many NRIs interested in studying in india.....money could be a reason...or maybe coz the duration in india is shorter or maybe their dads can afford to pay BIG donations.....whatever be the reason but they r snatching away some more seats from their poor indian counterparts..... :oops:
 
parasiteatwork said:
Actually,Nimesh i have also been thinking the same thing......why the hell r so many NRIs interested in studying in india.....money could be a reason...or maybe coz the duration in india is shorter or maybe their dads can afford to pay BIG donations.....whatever be the reason but they r snatching away some more seats from their poor indian counterparts..... :oops:

para
I was thinking about you, can you tell me why you choose to go to a medical college in romania???
is their any particular advantage ? Is the medium of instruction in english in your medical school??
And what are your plans, Do you intend to go back to india and will this degree you will get from a romanian medical college be recognised in india??
was just curious because I don't know anybody from india who goes to romania to do a medical course
As far as snaching away seats from poor indian, I think private medical colleges like in manipal and sri ramchandra college have reservations for NRI students because they get big buck in us dollars
I don't think it is because of their parents affording their education, it is because they may not be able to get admission here in usa , and medical education in usa is far more expencive than in india
But do enlighten us on your medical course in romania.
 
nimeshshingala said:
para
I was thinking about you, can you tell me why you choose to go to a medical college in romania???
is their any particular advantage ? Is the medium of instruction in english in your medical school??
And what are your plans, Do you intend to go back to india and will this degree you will get from a romanian medical college be recognised in india??
was just curious because I don't know anybody from india who goes to romania to do a medical course
As far as snaching away seats from poor indian, I think private medical colleges like in manipal and sri ramchandra college have reservations for NRI students because they get big buck in us dollars
I don't think it is because of their parents affording their education, it is because they may not be able to get admission here in usa , and medical education in usa is far more expencive than in india
But do enlighten us on yourmedical course in romania.
Nimesh-
Yes,the medium of instruction is english at my university...its also in romanian so basically its up to u to choose the language u want to study in.And when i came here in the first year i only spoke english...i chose english for my course here.
And the reason why I chose to come to Romania were......i tried hard to get into a good medical college in India but i didnt get in(whatever be the reasonS,they r not important here) so they i had the following choices....
1.To give up my aim to be a doc
2. To ask my parents to pay for huge donations at some stupid donation college or
3. to try again the next yr
All these options were not what i wanted.....thankfully my prayers were answered n i came to know about Romania.....(yeah..yeah..i know all that stuff abt eastern european countries that u must have heared...some of it may be true but believe me its not that bad)....And yes,i was a little worried abt coming here at first but then.....thats life .Isn't it??? :) And now I like it here.....
About the advantages....no...there r no special advantages...just the usual....and yes,i do plan to go back to India-our homeland and then I will have to take the MCI exam for registration to practice in India but thats ok coz i have studied well enough,so i dont think its going to be a probelm...it will just need some more studying on my part n i will manage it.
And I m sure you have not met many ppl who go to Romania but then how many PARASITES have u met???? :p
 
FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE-
The reason most NRIs (read- from the US) go to India to study medicine is because they could not get into medicine in the US, otherwise there is no reason why they should pay such a high fee. This also reflects in their performance in med school. In my batch in Manipal, indian students dominated academics. No offence intended to NRIs, but majority of them are not upto the mark. However, those from malaysia and far east were also good students. Then they find fault in the schedules and teachers..... They must realize that med school is not a joke. Everyone either in India or any part of the world has to work very hard. Unlike schools, there is no spoon feeding in any med school, either in the US or India. You need personal motivation and initiative to learn. Majority of NRI students have a laid back attitude. Since the performance profiles of indian and NRI students are so different, the professors also think accordingly. You always pay more attention to students that are more hard working and show interest.
No NRI student ever takes seats from indian students. The vast majority of indian med schools do not have seats for nri/foreigners. They take students thru open competition and get excellent candidates.
Many things may seem different or weird to NRIs , but they are a part of the working and social culture in India which works for their benefit. They were designed keeping the conditions and requirements of Indians in view.
This also applies to Indian students who go abroad for medicine. I have seen and interacted with some of my relatives who did. The only reason they go outside india for medical graduation is because they could not compete.
There are some capitation med colleges in india. But the vast majority of indian students compete their way into med school.
I am from manipal, but i am sure SRMC has the same situation.
 
nimeshshingala said:
georgie boy (bengali babu)
you are really funny, I am laughing excactly as the animations in my previous posts
I am a little bit of confused here
I don't understand why so many people from usa and canada go to india to do their medicine??? :confused:
is it because of the cost or because you think you will get a better education and will make a good doctor out of you??
Are you guys confident that when you come back you will be assured of a residency in usa???
I graduated from india a long time ago , so I am totally out of touch with the developement of new medical and dental colleges , But I still want to know the advantages to go to india for medical education with the intention of coming back to usa??
After all it is not easy to adjust to the indian environment after staying all your life in america!! isn't it??
please clarify my doubts


Well, I have had two of my cousins (both younger than myself) taken back to India to complete their highschool+university education, as both my aunties didn't feel that the N.American system was up to their standards (however, I was always used as an exception because I did well throughout my education, up until highschool, which is when they left). One of my aunties said that the American society was a bad influence on my cousin (dating, inappropriate language, etc.), but I kept telling her that you won't be better off there either. Anyways.... the point is, there are some parents who do head back to India so that their kids can study in the India system (because they feel it is the gold standard). As for myself, I was researching various possibilities (I've never heard of Mannipal/SRMC/etc.) of attending medical school, and that is why I participated in these discussions.

As for my friends (S.Asian), only one friend out of my group has considered of going back to Pakistan (I really don't know if even they would accept him), but the rest have not even considered going back to India. I never heard of other people contemplating of going back (till I stumbled across this forum) to India for their education.

Some people may use India as an option because they will have family within the same country at least (or in near-by provinces), so they may feel at home; or they want to be amongst their own kind, who knows? But everyone here should not assume, that just because an NRI wants to head back home, it is solely due to their academic failures/achievements.


AND


Glad you all liked my one-liner :laugh: :cool:
 
sunny123 said:
Some people may use India as an option because they will have family within the same country at least (or in near-by provinces), so they may feel at home; or they want to be amongst their own kind, who knows? But everyone here should not assume, that just because an NRI wants to head back home, it is solely due to their academic failures/achievements.


AND


Glad you all liked my one-liner :laugh: :cool:

well said sunny. :thumbup:


and we do like the one-liners :D
 
sunny123 said:
I do appreciate your post, as it was a different perspective from Souvik (#1 cheerleader of SRMC). One thing though truth_betold,



I'm guessing they approve of same-sex relationships??


in response to your doubts regarding what i had said earlier, i was talking about the people that i have come across which are only straight people. as for same sex relationships, i haven't the slightest clue. all i know is according to indian law, being gay is illegal in india
 
Truth Betold said:
in response to your doubts regarding what i had said earlier, i was talking about the people that i have come across which are only straight people. as for same sex relationships, i haven't the slightest clue. all i know is according to indian law, being gay is illegal in india

I don't think being gay is "illegal" in India
it may be look down upon and may carry a kind of social stigma especially if you go to rural areas
but you do not get arrested for being a "gay"
But people especially in bombay and big cities have accepted the fact that there are certain group of people who have a differant sexual orientation and it is perfectly normal
so to use the word "ILLEGAL" is not appropriate
 
^ Exactly TruthBetold, what Nimesh is saying is correct. My comment carried comedy and sarcasm tied up in a package, I am sure you were able to detect it. Male relationships (strictly being friends and non-sexual) in India involve guys holding hands and being REALLY close with each other (well that is what I saw back in the 80-90's, I don't know what is happening now in this century). I remember a group guys holding hands in the public parks or heading to school, and so that is something that is apart of S.Asian culture. Nowadays, with India trying ever so hard to become like the West, they probably don't do such things anymore as they may be percieved as being homosexual.
 
nimeshshingala said:
I don't think being gay is "illegal" in India
it may be look down upon and may carry a kind of social stigma especially if you go to rural areas
but you do not get arrested for being a "gay"
But people especially in bombay and big cities have accepted the fact that there are certain group of people who have a differant sexual orientation and it is perfectly normal
so to use the word "ILLEGAL" is not appropriate


though you may choose not to believe being gay is outlawed, it is the truth. this knowledge comes straight out of forensic medicine books that are made in india, which all students must study if they go to medical college in india during their second year.
 
sunny123 said:
^ Exactly TruthBetold, what Nimesh is saying is correct. My comment carried comedy and sarcasm tied up in a package, I am sure you were able to detect it. Male relationships (strictly being friends and non-sexual) in India involve guys holding hands and being REALLY close with each other (well that is what I saw back in the 80-90's, I don't know what is happening now in this century). I remember a group guys holding hands in the public parks or heading to school, and so that is something that is apart of S.Asian culture. Nowadays, with India trying ever so hard to become like the West, they probably don't do such things anymore as they may be percieved as being homosexual.


guys, remember nothing i am saying is to offend anyone. all i am saying is that i lived in the country for almost 6 years since 1998, not the 80-90's. keep in my mind my experiences were in madras which is deep in the south. a rule of thumb for all, the further south you go in india, the more culturally backwards it is.
ex.- a couple years ago, there was a artsy hindi movie which depicted two women who had lesbian tendencies. the audience burned the movie theater down. what else is there to say?
if you choose not to believe it, then what can i say.
 
nimeshshingala said:
I don't think being gay is "illegal" in India
it may be look down upon and may carry a kind of social stigma especially if you go to rural areas
but you do not get arrested for being a "gay"
But people especially in bombay and big cities have accepted the fact that there are certain group of people who have a differant sexual orientation and it is perfectly normal
so to use the word "ILLEGAL" is not appropriate

unfortuntely..being "gay" is illegal..it says so in teh indian constitution; something along the lines of having "carnal relations" is prohibited..but interestingly, lesbianism is not outlawed... :confused:
 
CaliAtenza said:
unfortuntely..being "gay" is illegal..it says so in teh indian constitution; something along the lines of having "carnal relations" is prohibited..but interestingly, lesbianism is not outlawed... :confused:
I guess when they refer to "gays" in the constitution---they mean both gays n lesbians...... :p
 
nimeshshingala said:
I don't think being gay is "illegal" in India
it may be look down upon and may carry a kind of social stigma especially if you go to rural areas
but you do not get arrested for being a "gay"
But people especially in bombay and big cities have accepted the fact that there are certain group of people who have a differant sexual orientation and it is perfectly normal
so to use the word "ILLEGAL" is not appropriate
Hey...what do u mean by "in rural India";its same everywhere.I guess there is acceptance of the fact but not the existence of the fact....people use the term"gay" while joking or insulting....
 
CaliAtenza said:
unfortuntely..being "gay" is illegal..it says so in teh indian constitution; something along the lines of having "carnal relations" is prohibited..but interestingly, lesbianism is not outlawed... :confused:[/QUOTE

Dear Cali,

It is written nowhere in the Indian Constitution that being gay is illegal. According to Indian Penal Code (I.P.C.) 377 it is the physical aspect of the homosexuality i.e. "sodomy" is the offence and is liable to punishment.
 
shardul said:
CaliAtenza said:
unfortuntely..being "gay" is illegal..it says so in teh indian constitution; something along the lines of having "carnal relations" is prohibited..but interestingly, lesbianism is not outlawed... :confused:[/QUOTE

Dear Cali,

It is written nowhere in the Indian Constitution that being gay is illegal. According to Indian Penal Code (I.P.C.) 377 it is the physical aspect of the homosexuality i.e. "sodomy" is the offence and is liable to punishment.

hmmn..well u got me then...so i guess its ok as long no sexual relations are involved...but then again, if u were gay, i dun think it would be prudent to show it in public either..but apparently Mumbai and the other metros are tollerant
 
shardul said:
CaliAtenza said:
unfortuntely..being "gay" is illegal..it says so in teh indian constitution; something along the lines of having "carnal relations" is prohibited..but interestingly, lesbianism is not outlawed... :confused:[/QUOTE

Dear Cali,

It is written nowhere in the Indian Constitution that being gay is illegal. According to Indian Penal Code (I.P.C.) 377 it is the physical aspect of the homosexuality i.e. "sodomy" is the offence and is liable to punishment.
Did u really go n search for that stuff?? wow :p :p
 
shardul said:
CaliAtenza said:
unfortuntely..being "gay" is illegal..it says so in teh indian constitution; something along the lines of having "carnal relations" is prohibited..but interestingly, lesbianism is not outlawed... :confused:[/QUOTE

Dear Cali,

It is written nowhere in the Indian Constitution that being gay is illegal. According to Indian Penal Code (I.P.C.) 377 it is the physical aspect of the homosexuality i.e. "sodomy" is the offence and is liable to punishment.

in defense of CaliAtenza, who came to my defense initially...isn't being gay or a homosexual mean an individual is indulging in sodomy. thank you for proving CaliAtenza and my case.
 
Truth Betold said:
shardul said:
in defense of CaliAtenza, who came to my defense initially...isn't being gay or a homosexual mean an individual is indulging in sodomy. thank you for proving CaliAtenza and my case.

You may be right in saying that indirectly homosexuality is banned in India. First of all I wasn't trying to prove that Cali was wrong but I just stated the facts known to me. I have learned it as part of our curriculum for second year MBBS under Forensic Medicine and toxicology. I am not medicolegal expert to opine whether IPC 377 bans male homosexuality. Recently we had a debate competition in our college and topic was "Homosexuality- should we ban it?" and side supporting the homosexuality won the debate and one of the judges was hour head of the department of FM & T. Anyway Indian Penal code was formulated in early 1880s by Britishers and it has changed only little in all these years. So India still lives with :) Elizabethan morality of Colonial Britain
 
Anyways,It doesnt affect me at all wether homosexuality is banned in India or not.....so i dont much care about it!!!!
 
shardul said:
Truth Betold said:
You may be right in saying that indirectly homosexuality is banned in India. First of all I wasn't trying to prove that Cali was wrong but I just stated the facts known to me. I have learned it as part of our curriculum for second year MBBS under Forensic Medicine and toxicology. I am not medicolegal expert to opine whether IPC 377 bans male homosexuality. Recently we had a debate competition in our college and topic was "Homosexuality- should we ban it?" and side supporting the homosexuality won the debate and one of the judges was hour head of the department of FM & T. Anyway Indian Penal code was formulated in early 1880s by Britishers and it has changed only little in all these years. So India still lives with :) Elizabethan morality of Colonial Britain


hey dont get so defensive, i understand where u are coming from. i also studied FM in second yr, but i dont think it was taught with such interest that you are describing from your college. in my college all the professors in the FM department always came to class piss drunk. i'm pretty amazed that you guys had debates. the only debates we had were to see if we could sneak out of class after attendance when the professor turned his back
 
Truth Betold said:
shardul said:
hey dont get so defensive, i understand where u are coming from. i also studied FM in second yr, but i dont think it was taught with such interest that you are describing from your college. in my college all the professors in the FM department always came to class piss drunk. i'm pretty amazed that you guys had debates. the only debates we had were to see if we could sneak out of class after attendance when the professor turned his back
"piss drunk" you say?? On what? Bhang? :D
 
lol..its all water under the bridge guys..lets get back on topic :), truth be told..anything else we should know bout indian schooling, cause im headed to india to start school this august.
 
CaliAtenza said:
lol..its all water under the bridge guys..lets get back on topic :), truth be told..anything else we should know bout indian schooling, cause im headed to india to start school this august.
Few Advices:
During exams take care not to dress up properly at all otherwise the teachers get an impression that u had not been studying... :laugh: :laugh:
Dont be toooooo friendly with the other sex in front of the teachers or else u will be sorry!!!
 
parasiteatwork said:
Few Advices:
During exams take care not to dress up properly at all otherwise the teachers get an impression that u had not been studying... :laugh: :laugh:
Dont be toooooo friendly with the other sex in front of the teachers or else u will be sorry!!!

lol :D to the first one...and yeah, i think the not being too friendly with teh other sex in front of the teachers, goes for preety much everywhere.
 
CaliAtenza said:
lol :D to the first one...and yeah, i think the not being too friendly with teh other sex in front of the teachers, goes for preety much everywhere.
No that is not applicable everywhere...atleast not in my university.... :laugh:
 
Truth Betold said:
shardul said:
hey dont get so defensive, i understand where u are coming from. i also studied FM in second yr, but i dont think it was taught with such interest that you are describing from your college. in my college all the professors in the FM department always came to class piss drunk. i'm pretty amazed that you guys had debates. the only debates we had were to see if we could sneak out of class after attendance when the professor turned his back

Yeah, we are very lucky to have a good faculty of forensic medicine at our college. Though department is understaffed they really try hard to teach the subject especially the head of the department is very respected and admired by us. We had few of those "piss drunk" variety as external examiners (those from other colleges) and gave really tough time. Anyway forensic medicine never attract brightest of medical graduates. Those who end up doing the forensic medicine are very frustrated lot. Sheer workload,responsibility, understaffed departments, lack of resources and general respect as a doctor are the conditions under which one has to work if u r a forensic expert in India. Surely no wonder if they crack up. Anyway I dont want to support the piss drunk variety nor I blame them for the situation they are into.
 
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