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Hi.

I have been pretty set on doing DPM over DO, but after actually getting an admission offer from a DO program as well, I'm beginning to have doubts/concerns. I even had submitted my tuition deposit at a DPM program.

For people who had the option of doing DO or MD, why did you choose DPM? I realize the theoretical, idealistic answer to learning a system and mastering it, etc., but in practical terms...why did you choose DPM and not DO/MD?

I've been so excited about DPM and still think it's a great field, but I feel I would do myself a disservice if I didn't completely explore what I would give up/gain by not going DO.

I realize it's a more delicate subject...

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Hi.

I have been pretty set on doing DPM over DO, but after actually getting an admission offer from a DO program as well, I'm beginning to have doubts/concerns. I even had submitted my tuition deposit at a DPM program.

For people who had the option of doing DO or MD, why did you choose DPM? I realize the theoretical, idealistic answer to learning a system and mastering it, etc., but in practical terms...why did you choose DPM and not DO/MD?

I've been so excited about DPM and still think it's a great field, but I feel I would do myself a disservice if I didn't completely explore what I would give up/gain by not going DO.

I realize it's a more delicate subject...
While a $1000 or what ever the deposit is might seem like a lot, it really is not much compared to what your career will become. Truly think it over. The strong advantage of DO is it does offer you a lot more flexibility in career routes
 
Hi.

I have been pretty set on doing DPM over DO, but after actually getting an admission offer from a DO program as well, I'm beginning to have doubts/concerns. I even had submitted my tuition deposit at a DPM program.

For people who had the option of doing DO or MD, why did you choose DPM? I realize the theoretical, idealistic answer to learning a system and mastering it, etc., but in practical terms...why did you choose DPM and not DO/MD?

I've been so excited about DPM and still think it's a great field, but I feel I would do myself a disservice if I didn't completely explore what I would give up/gain by not going DO.

I realize it's a more delicate subject...

I was in the same boat, and ended up choosing D.P.M. over M.D./D.O. since I liked the advantages podiatry had to offer over the fields available to allopathic and osteopathic grads. However, I later found out that doing a podiatry residency is also available to M.D.s and D.O.s in at least one state (California), and I really do think that if you took that route, you would still be able to do podiatry even if not previously allowed by the state in question. This assumes that the state podiatry board would be very pleased to have an allopath or osteopath interested in their residencies and would make arrangements to accommodate them (I do imagine this would be the case). You might not be able to get some of the top podiatry residencies, but that's probably not too huge of a deal with three years of training to learn what you need to be successful in practice.

Though it's probably more expensive and may require you catching up to speed on a considerable amount of podiatry-specific material and concepts (perhaps requiring hiring a third or fourth year podiatry student as a tutor), I would personally recommend pursuing the M.D. or D.O. route instead (at least until D.P.M.s gain unrestricted medical licenses). Even if you end up still going into podiatry, one of the big advantages of obtaining the general medical degree beforehand is not having to explain to everybody what your degree is and what you do, including clarifying to some people that you are not some sort of foot masseur/masseuse or similar odd misconceptions. Some people enjoy the novelty of the degree, however, and are passionate about explaining what they do, so that may not actually be a concern for you.

Another concern I have for the limited-scope degree is that the combined effect of the ACA, insurance companies, and allied health professions with more political clout than podiatry may have an adverse effect on our reimbursements despite the increased patient base we have with the greying of America. If things ever got out of hand for you economically speaking, you could always switch to another field by doing a residency in that specialty if you have the general degree.

You may also have more loan repayment opportunities by attending a general medical program, as well (though that may be outweighed by the scholarships offered by many podiatry schools).

I think there are plenty of advantages to podiatry, so there's definitely no "gloom and doom" for the profession, as it is certainly an awesome trade and will provide a comfortable lifestyle with stimulating work. In addition, you won't get the same quality of lower extremity specialty training in general medical school, so that does put you in a better position to be at the top of your game for your specialty by attending a D.P.M. program. From a business and flexibility standpoint, however, I do think the M.D./D.O. route offers more advantages than disadvantages overall, and you should be aware of some of the burdens (albeit fairly light ones, depending on your goals and outlook) you would be shouldering by choosing podiatry from the outset.

Perhaps you should make a list of the reasons you want to go into podiatry, and see if the same can or cannot be accomplished with the other degree, then go from there.
 
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I was in the same boat, and ended up choosing D.P.M. over M.D./D.O. since I liked the advantages podiatry had to offer over the fields available to allopathic and osteopathic grads. However, I later found out that doing a podiatry residency is also available to M.D.s and D.O.s in at least one state (California), and I really do think that if you took that route, you would still be able to do podiatry even if not previously allowed by the state in question. This assumes that the state podiatry board would be very pleased to have an allopath or osteopath interested in their residencies and would make arrangements to accommodate them (I do imagine this would be the case). You might not be able to get some of the top podiatry residencies, but that's probably not too huge of a deal with three years of training to learn what you need to be successful in practice.

Though it's probably more expensive and may require you catching up to speed on a considerable amount of podiatry-specific material and concepts (perhaps requiring hiring a third or fourth year podiatry student as a tutor), I would personally recommend pursuing the M.D. or D.O. route instead (at least until D.P.M.s gain unrestricted medical licenses). Even if you end up still going into podiatry, one of the big advantages of obtaining the general medical degree beforehand is not having to explain to everybody what your degree is and what you do, including clarifying to some people that you are not some sort of foot masseur/masseuse or similar odd misconceptions. Some people enjoy the novelty of the degree, however, and are passionate about explaining what they do, so that may not actually be a concern for you.

Another concern I have for the limited-scope degree is that the combined effect of the ACA, insurance companies, and allied health professions with more political clout than podiatry may have an adverse effect on our reimbursements despite the increased patient base we have with the greying of America. If things ever got out of hand for you economically speaking, you could always switch to another field by doing a residency in that specialty if you have the general degree.

You may also have more loan repayment opportunities by attending a general medical program, as well (though that may be outweighed by the scholarships offered by many podiatry schools).

I think there are plenty of advantages to podiatry, so there's definitely no "gloom and doom" for the profession, as it is certainly an awesome trade and will provide a comfortable lifestyle with stimulating work. In addition, you won't get the same quality of lower extremity specialty training in general medical school, so that does put you in a better position to be at the top of your game for your specialty by attending a D.P.M. program. From a business and flexibility standpoint, however, I do think the M.D./D.O. route offers more advantages than disadvantages overall, and you should be aware of some of the burdens (albeit fairly light ones, depending on your goals and outlook) you would be shouldering by choosing podiatry from the outset.

Perhaps you should make a list of the reasons you want to go into podiatry, and see if the same can or cannot be accomplished with the other degree, then go from there.

There's an lot of information in this post that unless sourced seems like horrible misinformation.
 
Thanks FootAndAnkle, I needed a good chuckle today. April 1st is a ways off though and the OP was asking a serious question.
 
Are you interested in feet or not?

Do you want to be a Primary Care Doctor or do you want to be a specialist that does a fair amount of procedures?

Do you want to work your entire career in a hospital as an employee or would you enjoy having the choice to work in a solo or group private practice?

Write down 3 of your "dream" specialties.



If Primary Care or General Surgery is there then chose DO. If Orthopedic Surgery, Sports Medicine, or Dermatology is there then chose DPM.

Obviously this isn't an absolute list but these are some of the questions I asked myself and was why I chose DPM over DO.
 
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There's an lot of information in this post that unless sourced seems like horrible misinformation.

If you're talking about USMLE/COMLEX acceptance for California licensure of podiatrists, you can find the info at http://prospective.westernu.edu/podiatry/faqs-15/ (or from the CPMA directly, if you have a username and password). Just a thought for someone before they limit all their options. Most everything else is ultimately speculative and could be for their consideration.
 
are you interested in feet or not?

Do you want to be a primary care doctor or do you want to be a specialist that does a fair amount of procedures?

Do you want to work your entire career in a hospital as an employee or would you enjoy having the choice to work in a solo or group private practice?

Write down 3 of your "dream" specialties.



If primary care or general surgery is there then chose do. If orthopedic surgery, sports medicine, or dermatology is there then chose dpm.

Obviously this isn't an absolute list but these are some of the questions i asked myself and was why i chose dpm over do.

but i read that orthopedics receive at least twice as much as podiatrist do in performing the same procedures. So u also might want to take salary into account when choosing either career.
 
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but orthopedics receive at least twice as much as podiatrist do in performing the same procedures. So u also might want to take salary into account when choosing either career.

Why is this thread full of factual inaccuracies???
It baffles me because everyone on here is either pre-pod or a pod student....
 
Are you interested in feet or not?

Do you want to be a Primary Care Doctor or do you want to be a specialist that does a fair amount of procedures?

Do you want to work your entire career in a hospital as an employee or would you enjoy having the choice to work in a solo or group private practice?

Write down 3 of your "dream" specialties.



If Primary Care or General Surgery is there then chose DO. If Orthopedic Surgery, Sports Medicine, or Dermatology is there then chose DPM.

Obviously this isn't an absolute list but these are some of the questions I asked myself and was why I chose DPM over DO.

This is something that both DPM's and MD/DOs can do though? :confused:
 
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This is something that both DPM's and MD/DOs can do though? :confused:

The OP is deciding between DPM and DO, I know the title says differently but I left MD out of the comparison.

Here's a gross oversimplification for you:

DO is a path for primary care

DPM is a speciality path

MD you can chose any path you want
 
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The OP is deciding between DPM and DO, I know the title says differently but I left MD out of the comparison

I was referring to the bolded when I quoted your post. You seemed to infer that DPMs can only work in a hospital or as an employee while MD/DOs (and not DPMs) have the freedom to work in a solo or in a group private practice, and it confused me as to why you think that.

EDIT: since you made an edit, I'll address the points you added:

DO is a path for primary care. Incorrect. Graduates of Osteopathic and Allopathic medical schools alike can pursue any specialty they desire. Whether or not the one chooses to focus on primary care is up to the individual, and not as dependent on the degree as you think. To say that one goes the DO route solely to go into primary care is false.

DPM is a speciality path Correct

MD you can chose any path you want But so can DOs.
 
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I was referring to the bolded when I quoted your post. You seemed to infer that DPMs can only work in a hospital or as an employee while MD/DOs have the freedom to work in a solo or in a group private practice, and it confused me as to why you think that.

Switch it around, at least for DO vs DPM
 
Switch it around, at least for DO vs DPM

What's your beef with DOs? You did the same thing here: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1037076 and if you keep it up there's going to be a flood of them coming down here to tell you how little you know.

Here's to the OP: you're asking the wrong question for this forum. Sorry. This is a podiatry forum where you can expect DPM cheerleading - rightfully so. We can tell you some great things about this profession and we can hopefully let you in on the things the schools aren't telling you - like that the attrition rate is awful and how the residency crisis is playing out. Very few people in this forum really had to make the choice between the two. People can claim they had the stats, but there's a big difference between thinking your numbers are good enough and having 2 acceptances in hand and having to make a choice. This is not a great forum for learning about MD/DOs and I would be fairly skeptical of anything anyone in this forum says about orthopedic surgeons.
 
What's your beef with DOs? You did the same thing here: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1037076 and if you keep it up there's going to be a flood of them coming down here to tell you how little you know.

Here's to the OP: you're asking the wrong question for this forum. Sorry. This is a podiatry forum where you can expect DPM cheerleading - rightfully so. We can tell you some great things about this profession and we can hopefully let you in on the things the schools aren't telling you - like that the attrition rate is awful and how the residency crisis is playing out. Very few people in this forum really had to make the choice between the two. People can claim they had the stats, but there's a big difference between thinking your numbers are good enough and having 2 acceptances in hand and having to make a choice. This is not a great forum for learning about MD/DOs and I would be fairly skeptical of anything anyone in this forum says about orthopedic surgeons.
If I pose this question in a DO forum, I will get DO cheerleading. I don't know how much the DO students would know about DPM. I was just under the impression that people have been in my position in the past, and I was curious about their rationalization process was for choosing DPM.

Like I tried to explain, I think DPM is a good field. I personally, however, have no more reason to choose to become a foot/ankle specialist than a brain specialist. I think the foot/ankle system is complicated and very interesting, but I could make a similar argument for many other physiological systems. As I study medicine, I could find that perhaps I think kidneys are the most interesting thing on the planet.

I'm not worried that I will live an unfruitful/happy existence as a podiatrist--I think it would be a great thing to do. My main concern is that perhaps I am giving up the opportunity to study a system that I don't even know about yet that I'll learn through my schooling that turns out to make me super excited to study/work on...

I'm sorry that I posed this question here, but from my interactions with this group, I thought it would lead to a more fruitful discussion than it would in a DO forum. I thought that perhaps other people in a similar position in this cycle could also get some insight here...
 
My main concern is that perhaps I am giving up the opportunity to study a system that I don't even know about yet that I'll learn through my schooling that turns out to make me super excited to study/work on...

There's your answer. I saw that you got a pretty nice scholarship from NYCPM, so if you're willing to forgo that and pay a little more in terms of tuition, take the DO acceptance and don't look back.
 
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If you're talking about USMLE/COMLEX acceptance for California licensure of podiatrists, you can find the info at http://prospective.westernu.edu/podiatry/faqs-15/ (or from the CPMA directly, if you have a username and password).

Don't want to derail the thread, but for the sake of those who may not be as informed this needs to be cleared up a bit.

Most likely whoever wrote that copy in the FAQ link you posted is just not informed. In 2008 the BPM in California took the position that if pod med students were allowed to take those exams at some point, the board would then accept those exam in lieu of the APMLE. Here is a link to a short blurb about the BPM strategic plan from May 2008.

http://www.bpm.ca.gov/forms_pubs/strategic_may08.shtml

The statement that an MD/DO graduate can apply for or somehow secure a PMSR is also wrong.

Here is the link to the official California Board of Podiatric Medicine licensing application requirements.

http://www.bpm.ca.gov/licensing/app_summary.pdf

There is no mention of accepting the USMLE/COMLEX, which makes sense given that pod med students are currently not permitted to sit for those exams. Moreover, the document clearly states that applicants must have attended and earned a degree from one of the 9 schools of podiatric medicine, something a MD/DO applicant for residency or licensure would not have.

Bottom line: if you want to be a podiatrist, go to a school of podiatric medicine. I'm certainly glad I did. :)
 
If you have any concern that you would be interested in a system other than the foot and ankle don't go to podiatry. We've got endless temptations, but only 1 path to walk down.
 
It all comes down to what makes you happy, and how much of a gambler you are.

I looked at it like this: Will I be happy as a DPM? My answer: Yes.
Will I be happy in any MD/DO specialty: No, there are a handful of specialties I would hate.

Now, I'm given to understand MD/DO students have a say in what specialty they match, to a degree. I don't pretend to know the nuances of the MD/DO match, but I would look into the match process thoroughly, and find out how many people get the specialty they actually wanted. Not necessarily their first choice (which is skewed by personal perception based on board scores/rank/connections/etc), but the one they actually want. It's probably (hopefully) the vast majority of students, but who knows.

For me at least, podiatry school was a "guarantee" of certain benefits. I was guaranteed admissions to a school in a geographic area I wanted, guaranteed surgery, guaranteed wound care, guaranteed 3 years only post graduate training (emphasis on the length, not the guarantee, I guess), guarantee my specialty currently supports sole practitioners (at least it's possible - you don't see too many nephrologists hanging signs on main street), guarantee I won't be spending time looking into specialties I might hate, and you get the point.

Podiatry is a safe bet, and can offer you many guarantees. If you want a "bigger" reward, and you want to try and land an integrated plastics residency, be my guest - but it is anything but guaranteed you'll get it.

For those people who don't have a passion for feet,, but just medicine (or certain aspects of it) in general, podiatry is a safe bet, and can assure you of your future in medicine. Going to MD/DO school leaves some things to chance and uncertainty - which I'm not saying is bad, just different.
 
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If you have any concern that you would be interested in a system other than the foot and ankle don't go to podiatry. We've got endless temptations, but only 1 path to walk down.

I'm going to disagree here. Podiatric medicine offers a unique path that cannot be mimicked by any medical specialty. For that reason, if you go to MD/DO school, you will never be a podiatrist or have what a podiatrist has. For that reason, I wouldn't discourage people to turn their back on podiatry if they like it, but might have interests elsewhere. If they go elsewhere, they can't come back (F/A orthos do not have the same job as 90% of podiatrists).

I have an interest in facial reconstructive surgery, but I don't think that means I should have abandoned podiatry altogether because I have an interest in another field. I also have interests in hydrology and dendrology, but these interests don't validate me not going to pod school, because I like podiatric medicine, and I think it is it the best for me. At some point in our lives, we have to choose what we like best, and pursue it. Pushing back this decision and pursuing MD/DO schools closes the podiatry door, while choosing DPM school closes the other specialties' doors. At some point, you gotta pick an interest and run with it - even if you have other interests.

I would encourage pre-pods to make sure you are happy with podiatry, and wouldn't be happier somewhere else. An interest in other areas shouldn't dissuade you from from this career - just make sure you love podiatry.

Quick edit: perhaps you meant to say "...concern that you would be MORE interested in a system other..." In which case, forget this post, and follow your dreams, kid.

Double Edit: OK, I might have made this more confusing, but I'll summarize here: I interpreted the quoted post to say, "If you have interests in podiatry and other fields, don't go to podiatry school." I disagree with this because not going to podiatry school means you can't be a pod. Figure out your main interest before choosing a school.
 
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The statement that an MD/DO graduate can apply for or somehow secure a PMSR is also wrong.
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There is no mention of accepting the USMLE/COMLEX, which makes sense given that pod med students are currently not permitted to sit for those exams. Moreover, the document clearly states that applicants must have attended and earned a degree from one of the 9 schools of podiatric medicine, something a MD/DO applicant for residency or licensure would not have.

Bottom line: if you want to be a podiatrist, go to a school of podiatric medicine. I'm certainly glad I did. :)

I think the licensing requirement document is quite interesting, but I think that the first CBPM link you posted illustrated my point, since it states that "In BPM's view, passing the USMLE or NBOME authorizes MDs and DOs to practice podiatric medicine" (see paragraph four). Obviously, they would need to complete the required residency and pass NBPME Part III, as well. Do you think they reversed their view or does the current licensing document simply indicate that no M.D. or D.O. in California has actually wanted to pursue podiatric licensure, so that's just not included?

I mean, the view you're bringing to the table is the reason I chose pod school, so I think that's great if it's true. I was frankly a bit annoyed when I "found out" (maybe, maybe not?) that you can be just as eligible by going to a non-specialty school.
 
Obviously, they would need to complete the required residency and pass NBPME Part III, as well.

See below.

Do you think they reversed their view or does the current licensing document simply indicate that no M.D. or D.O. in California has actually wanted to pursue podiatric licensure, so that's just not included?

This is the very first line of the application requirements document: "To be eligible for a license to practice podiatric medicine in California, you must graduate from an approved college or school of podiatric medicine."

It makes absolutely no difference if you have an MD/DO or have taken the USMLE/COMLEX, if you have not graduated from one of the 9 schools of of podiatric medicine, you cannot obtain a license through the BPM in CA.

I was frankly a bit annoyed when I "found out" (maybe, maybe not?) that you can be just as eligible by going to a non-specialty school.

See above.


California has been very aggressive in pushing our profession forward over the last few years, part of that is the physician certificate push and also exploring the viability of the USMLE/COMLEX as an option for our students instead of the AMPLE.

There has also been some ongoing discussion of the purpose of the APMLE vs the USMLE/COMLEX. Given that we specialize early in our education, our board exams can be reasonably expected to reflect our education to some degree.

That being said, some believe one of the biggest hurdles we face in the perception that we are not equivalently trained to our MD/DO colleagues is the existence of our own licensing exam series.

The way I read it, the BPM of California was simply affirming that, in their judgement, an applicant who can successfully pass the USMLE/COMLEX should be just as qualified to enter residency training or practice in podiatric medicine as one who passes the APMLE.

That's a discussion for another thread. :)
 
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It makes absolutely no difference if you have an MD/DO or have taken the USMLE/COMLEX, if you have not graduated from one of the 9 schools of of podiatric medicine, you cannot obtain a license through the BPM in CA.
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The way I read it, the BPM of California was simply affirming that, in their judgement, an applicant who can successfully pass the USMLE/COMLEX should be just as qualified to enter residency training or practice in podiatric medicine as one who passes the APMLE.
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Not to be a polemicist, but I highly doubt the CBPM would actually deny support for an allopath or osteopath deciding to pursue a podiatric residency with subsequent licensure. Honestly, given the CBPM statement that "passing the USMLE or NBOME authorizes MDs and DOs to practice podiatric medicine" (not 'should authorize') combined with the fact that this is the organization with the authority to change the licensing document you're referencing, I would postulate that the CBPM being too rigid to license an interested allopath or osteopath seems an unlikely scenario. I don't think that's ever been pursued (and perhaps won't be, since I think most of us end up going to pod school excepting the occasional F&A orthopedist), but I could see the alternate path being a possibility (though I've certainly been wrong before). It may be worth investigating with a CBPM (or other state podiatry board) representative for students interested in podiatry who would still like to attend a general medical program to have the additional flexibility in their futures.
 
I obviously have no inside knowledge of the politics of it all, but from my understanding, the purpose of all that California has done is to set up future opportunities for podiatry students and podiatrists ie allowing students to take the USMLE or COMLEX, or allowing podiatrists to have a full-scope license. As far as I can tell, it's been simply a political move at this point (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) because as far as I know, not much has changed. Pod students don't take the USMLE or COMLEX, at least not in any meaningful way. Podiatrists still practice with a restricted scope license. It's possible that a side effect of the CA push for parity is that MD/DO could try for a podiatry residency (whether any program would accept them is another debate), but that surely wasn't the intent of it all.
 
Honestly, given the CBPM statement that "passing the USMLE or NBOME authorizes MDs and DOs to practice podiatric medicine" (not 'should authorize') combined with the fact that this is the organization with the authority to change the licensing document you're referencing, I would postulate that the CBPM being too rigid to license an interested allopath or osteopath seems an unlikely scenario.

"The April 24-25 Focus Group will first review BPM's determination that, for our entry-level licensing purposes, the national medical and osteopathic exams are equivalent to those of the National Board of Podiatric Medical Examiners. This means that if the USMLE and NBOME allow podiatric students to take their exams, BPM will accept their scores as well as those of the NBPME. This will give DPM applicants more testing options, which always works for new docs eager to get their licensing credentials. "

That is it. That's the purpose, clearly stated right there in the document: giving DPM applicants more options to test. Absolutely nothing at all about MD or DO graduates obtaining a license or residency in podiatry.

EDIT: When the BPM says passing the USMLE or COMLEX authorizes MD/DO to "practice podiatric medicine" that is not the same thing as being eligible for a PMSR residency or obtaining a podiatric medical license from the BPM.

The point being made was that the APMLE and USMLE/COMLEX are theoretically comparable entry level exams in the opinion of the BPM. Any crossover acceptance leading to licensure in reality would require major changes to current state practice laws.
 
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That's all there is to say, dawg. Srs.

You think? I am sort of ambivalent towards feet. I don't have like a super huge love for feet, but I'm not like apparently everyone else in the world who ABSOLUTELY HATES feet when I tell them I'm in pod school. I think the type of career podiatry offers is more important than feet themselves. I mean, yeah, if you hate feet don't go to pod school, but if you don't mind feet, and want to do the job of a podiatrist then all is good.
 
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You think? I am sort of ambivalent towards feet. I don't have like a super huge love for feet, but I'm not like apparently everyone else in the world who ABSOLUTELY HATES feet when I tell them I'm in pod school. I think the type of career podiatry offers is more important than feet themselves. I mean, yeah, if you hate feet don't go to pod school, but if you don't mind feet, and want to do the job of a podiatrist then all is good.

Agreed, agreed. I'm not saying one need have a foot fetish, lol.
 
You think? I am sort of ambivalent towards feet. I don't have like a super huge love for feet, but I'm not like apparently everyone else in the world who ABSOLUTELY HATES feet when I tell them I'm in pod school. I think the type of career podiatry offers is more important than feet themselves. I mean, yeah, if you hate feet don't go to pod school, but if you don't mind feet, and want to do the job of a podiatrist then all is good.

x2 :thumbup:
 
If you're talking about USMLE/COMLEX acceptance for California licensure of podiatrists, you can find the info at http://prospective.westernu.edu/podiatry/faqs-15/ (or from the CPMA directly, if you have a username and password). Just a thought for someone before they limit all their options. Most everything else is ultimately speculative and could be for their consideration.


so if I understand it right, podiatric med students can take USMLE or COMPLEX instead? Only in California or throughout?
 
No. I don't know how that is getting propagated...
 
OK, I see now. Western is deceiving you. No podiatric residency will take you unless you have sat through the podiatry boards. So even if the licensing board accepts the DO/MD exams, it won't matter because you won't have completed an approved c residency. furthermore, you cannot sit for those exams unless youh have an MD/DO. So I have no idea why westerns website says that.
 
If I pose this question in a DO forum, I will get DO cheerleading. I don't know how much the DO students would know about DPM. I was just under the impression that people have been in my position in the past, and I was curious about their rationalization process was for choosing DPM.

Like I tried to explain, I think DPM is a good field. I personally, however, have no more reason to choose to become a foot/ankle specialist than a brain specialist. I think the foot/ankle system is complicated and very interesting, but I could make a similar argument for many other physiological systems. As I study medicine, I could find that perhaps I think kidneys are the most interesting thing on the planet.

I'm not worried that I will live an unfruitful/happy existence as a podiatrist--I think it would be a great thing to do. My main concern is that perhaps I am giving up the opportunity to study a system that I don't even know about yet that I'll learn through my schooling that turns out to make me super excited to study/work on...

I'm sorry that I posed this question here, but from my interactions with this group, I thought it would lead to a more fruitful discussion than it would in a DO forum. I thought that perhaps other people in a similar position in this cycle could also get some insight here...

With DPM you are guaranteed a specialty route that leads to not only surgery, but radiology, dermatology, sports medicine, wound care, etc. It's true that if you go DO you'll be able to gain more knowledge of other systems and specialties. It's also true you can make more money with other specialties. Just be aware that it's never guaranteed you will be able to enter a specialty, especially a surgical one or dermatology. Most surgical specialities are highly competitive and rely on your USMLE score and performance throughout school. You also need to complete the COMLEX as a DO student. You also need to reflect on what kind of lifestyle you want. Most surgical specialties are on-call and have you working with patient life vs. death situations.

From shadowing various specialties, I saw the DPM had the most variety. He interacted with patients ranging from infants to elderly. He was able to take his own X-rays, perform surgery, treat dermatological cases, care for wounds, prescribe meds, design orthotics, treat sports-related injuries, treat diabetic patients especially preventing amputations, and have a nice work-family balance. There is no other specialty that offers this variety and independence and allows you to have an off-call life.
 
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With DPM you are guaranteed a specialty route that leads to not only surgery, but radiology, dermatology, sports medicine, wound care, etc. It's true that if you go DO you'll be able to gain more knowledge of other systems and specialties. It's also true you can make more money with other specialties. Just be aware that it's never guaranteed you will be able to enter a specialty, especially a surgical one or dermatology. Most surgical specialities are highly competitive and rely on your USMLE score and performance throughout school. You also need to complete the COMLEX as a DO student. You also need to reflect on what kind of lifestyle you want. Most surgical specialties are on-call and have you working with patient life vs. death situations.

From shadowing various specialties, I saw the DPM had the most variety. He interacted with patients ranging from infants to elderly. He was able to take his own X-rays, perform surgery, treat dermatological cases, care for wounds, prescribe meds, design orthotics, treat sports-related injuries, treat diabetic patients especially preventing amputations, and have a nice work-family balance. There is no other specialty that offers this variety and independence and allows you to have an off-call life.
 
You think? I am sort of ambivalent towards feet. I don't have like a super huge love for feet, but I'm not like apparently everyone else in the world who ABSOLUTELY HATES feet when I tell them I'm in pod school. I think the type of career podiatry offers is more important than feet themselves. I mean, yeah, if you hate feet don't go to pod school, but if you don't mind feet, and want to do the job of a podiatrist then all is good.

i don't understand why do people "hate" feet.. i mean would people rather look at other penises (off all kinds) as a urologist lets say, or vaginas as a Ob/gyn.. or just sit there and do NOTHING as a psychologist!!! I mean I don't get when people go like oooo awww feet!!!.. im say ya!! feet.. what would you do if you break yours and there is no one to fix it bc everyone things they are nasty to treat!!!!!
 
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