DentalCanuck said:
Hey,
I've done exactly what your planning to do....I graduated from UBC with a BSc and got into Uni of Melbs Dental program which is a 5 yr program...they dont give you any advance placement..but you do get credit for some classes...chances of staying here after your done is really high...salary range I herd is going to be around 70k per yr for a 1st yr grad by 2009....i think its at 63K now.
Currently if you want to return to Canada you have to take the 2yr requalification program.....but I herd that might chance in the future...as there are rumours of a possible reciprocal agreement between Australia, US, canada and possibly britian....currently you can practice in NZ without any extra schooling....and I believe its the same with practicing in the UK
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Hey.. I graduated from UCSD with a BSc and I am applying to UMelb and USyd.
USyd is a 4 year grad program and require a previous bachelors degree for admission.. so check with them first. I agree.. chances of getting PR status when you finish dent is really high.
Also.. 60-70k is first year out for public clinics.. I have seen jobs for 1st year grads starting at 100-130k in private.
I have some slightly different news.. I heard that since the UK is moving in with the EU.. it is harder to go back and forth between UK and Commonwealth.
They are going to try and form a reciprical agreement between US, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. As these countries have very similar quality and struture of dental education programs.
Check out this thread
Reciprocity: Can accreditation work both ways?
Since 1955, CODA and its Canadian counterpart, the Commission on Dental Accreditation of Canada (CDAC), have managed an arrangement in which Canadian and U.S. dental programs are recognized with reciprocity. In other words, as in Dr. Rodas case, a Canadian dental graduate who has taken the U.S. National Board Dental Examinations, Parts I and II, is eligible to take a clinical exam and apply for an U.S. state license. A U.S. dental graduate who passed the Canadian national licensing exam could, with proper work documentation, practice in any province.
The Canadian model works very well, says Dr. Kalkwarf. The two agencies have worked hard to bring commonality to testing and outcomes. Yet, he points out, there has been little discussion of other possibilities for accreditation reciprocity. If CODA accredits a Mexican dental school, for instance, will Mexican authorities accredit a U.S. school?
One issue is the disparity in licensing authority. In the United States, dental licensure is a states rights issue. Dentists are licensed by state governments. Most other countries issue national dental licenses. Another issue is measuring the equivalence of educational differences. Foreign-trained dentists dont necessarily have inferior skills, but there is great variability in dental education.
Three prominent dental educational models coexist in the world.
The first, and oldest, is the American model, also adopted in Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
The second is the Britishnowadays called the odontologicalmodel
The third is the Europeanor stomatologicalmodel
Beyond the training itself, Americans also worry about how transnational clinicians will adapt to the cultural realities of U.S. practice. We are concerned not just about the clinical education of our international licensees but their cultural education as well, says Mr. Shragg of the Minnesota Board of Dentistry. Will the internationally-trained dentist understand our notions of infection control and four-handed dentistry?
For the time being, accreditation commissioners consider the question of reciprocity largely moot. Around 2002 or 2003, Dr. Cole says, Mexican dental schools asked to develop the same sort of reciprocity with the United States as we have with Canada. We compared standards and found substantial differences between Mexican standards and U.S. and Canadian standards.
I dont foresee any significant movement of international dentists, except in Australia and New Zealand, who have programs much like those in the United States. CODA could conceivably develop reciprocal agreements in those countries.
rom your bitter experience i can take actions to avoid them while from your sweet experiences i can console myself and make myself feel better.
