Does anyone know if there is a website to review the board scores from the different schools?
BarryPod said:Does anyone know if there is a website to review the board scores from the different schools?
krabmas said:as far as I know there is not.
THe Deans get the lists of percentages and some other breakdowns of which schools had the best pass rates fro which subjects.
This info is usually shared with the student council then distributed to other students.
That might be a good idea for AACPM to add that to there lists of charts and graphs.
BarryPod said:ya, that's what I was thining. It is a much better stat to tell what kind of program the school has than what is on most of their websites that says they have 100% residency placement which means absolutely nothing.
krabmas said:I just sent an email to AACPM asking if it would be possible to add this stat to their list.
I'll keep you updated.
whiskers said:In my opinion, this secretiveness demonstrates the cowardice of the schools and their administration. If all of these programs are so well instructed, and the schools really care more about the student's education than personal "empire building" then let's all see just how smart their students really are!
Let's just see which schools are doing the right thing for their students by ensuring that they are well prepared and well educated.
These very expensive programs should really be more open and share with the rest of the world the quality of the education they offer. We'd all love to be entertained by these numbers.
I can only wonder why a school would shroud their little scores in such mystery.
What a big joke.
Dr_Feelgood said:So true. Hey what is your new avitar? Is it a picture from ET?
whiskers said:In my opinion, this secretiveness demonstrates the cowardice of the schools and their administration. If all of these programs are so well instructed, and the schools really care more about the student's education than personal "empire building" then let's all see just how smart their students really are!
Let's just see which schools are doing the right thing for their students by ensuring that they are well prepared and well educated.
These very expensive programs should really be more open and share with the rest of the world the quality of the education they offer. We'd all love to be entertained by these numbers.
I can only wonder why a school would shroud their little scores in such mystery.
What a big joke.
gustydoc said:I actually agree with wiskers here. I found it really troubling when a school with a board pass rate of around 50% actually asked the rest of use to join them in writing letters to the NBPME complaining about test difficulty. Perhaps it is time for the schools with the consistently low scores to take a hard look at how they are teaching their students during the first two years of their podiatric medical education. I would love to see the schools whose students are having trouble look to other schools as a model for how to better prepare the students, rather than immediately scream that the tests are unfair. I understand there are a lot of egos involved and it may difficult to admit shortcomings, but it is needed for the betterment of the profession.
gustydoc said:I actually agree with wiskers here. I found it really troubling when a school with a board pass rate of around 50% actually asked the rest of use to join them in writing letters to the NBPME complaining about test difficulty. Perhaps it is time for the schools with the consistently low scores to take a hard look at how they are teaching their students during the first two years of their podiatric medical education. I would love to see the schools whose students are having trouble look to other schools as a model for how to better prepare the students, rather than immediately scream that the tests are unfair. I understand there are a lot of egos involved and it may difficult to admit shortcomings, but it is needed for the betterment of the profession.
mrfeet said:I agree whole-heartedly. I truly believe this (and I could be wrong), but all of the podiatry schools in the United States NEED TO BE AFFILIATED WITH MEDICAL SCHOOLS AND/OR UNIVERSITIES. I believe that we have reached the point in our profession that independent schools are becoming a thing of the past.
America has become education crazy. Just five years ago, a physical therapist could practice with a four-year degree, now it requires a minimum of a master's and some places require a doctorate. Bottom line, podiatry schools need to be affiliated, not just for prestige or name, but in order that there is greater accountability in these programs. Also, so that 50% board passage rates will not stand. I assure you, any medical school or major university would not be pleased with such lackluster standards in one of their programs!
mrfeet said:I agree whole-heartedly. I truly believe this (and I could be wrong), but all of the podiatry schools in the United States NEED TO BE AFFILIATED WITH MEDICAL SCHOOLS AND/OR UNIVERSITIES. I believe that we have reached the point in our profession that independent schools are becoming a thing of the past.
America has become education crazy. Just five years ago, a physical therapist could practice with a four-year degree, now it requires a minimum of a master's and some places require a doctorate. Bottom line, podiatry schools need to be affiliated, not just for prestige or name, but in order that there is greater accountability in these programs. Also, so that 50% board passage rates will not stand. I assure you, any medical school or major university would not be pleased with such lackluster standards in one of their programs!
whiskers said:And which administrations are going to do something for the betterment of the profession at the risk of their own power and $ ?
In my opinion, this profession needs more leaders who are less concerned with their own personal advancement and more concerned with the advancement of the profession.
Even at the junior level, how many times have we all heard many of the students running for office talking about how this will look on their CV for residencies. Then they end up kissing the admins donkey and using their position to petition their own advancement, circulate their own name and air their personal gripes?
This profession needs less histrionic and narcissistic behavior and more team players willing to do what is right even if that means they wont be the star of the podiatry ball.
whiskers said:And which administrations are going to do something for the betterment of the profession at the risk of their own power and $ ?
In my opinion, this profession needs more leaders who are less concerned with their own personal advancement and more concerned with the advancement of the profession.
Even at the junior level, how many times have we all heard many of the students running for office talking about how this will look on their CV for residencies. Then they end up kissing the admins donkey and using their position to petition their own advancement, circulate their own name and air their personal gripes?
This profession needs less histrionic and narcissistic behavior and more team players willing to do what is right even if that means they wont be the star of the podiatry ball.
mrfeet said:I agree whole-heartedly. I truly believe this (and I could be wrong), but all of the podiatry schools in the United States NEED TO BE AFFILIATED WITH MEDICAL SCHOOLS AND/OR UNIVERSITIES. I believe that we have reached the point in our profession that independent schools are becoming a thing of the past.
America has become education crazy. Just five years ago, a physical therapist could practice with a four-year degree, now it requires a minimum of a master's and some places require a doctorate. Bottom line, podiatry schools need to be affiliated, not just for prestige or name, but in order that there is greater accountability in these programs. Also, so that 50% board passage rates will not stand. I assure you, any medical school or major university would not be pleased with such lackluster standards in one of their programs!
freddydpt said:from a PT... nobody requires a doctorate to practice PT
whiskers said:And which administrations are going to do something for the betterment of the profession at the risk of their own power and $ ?
In my opinion, this profession needs more leaders who are less concerned with their own personal advancement and more concerned with the advancement of the profession.
Even at the junior level, how many times have we all heard many of the students running for office talking about how this will look on their CV for residencies. Then they end up kissing the admins donkey and using their position to petition their own advancement, circulate their own name and air their personal gripes?
This profession needs less histrionic and narcissistic behavior and more team players willing to do what is right even if that means they wont be the star of the podiatry ball.
gustydoc said:Obviously from my previous posts on this thread I could not agree with you more that there is a serious conflict of interests when it comes to what is best for the profession and what is best for the individuals with all the power.
Dr_Feelgood said:I might be wrong but I would guess that there are plenty of jobs that require a DPT not a MPT.
Fred, I think in some places a DPT would be needed to obtain a Director of PT job though. The DPT seems to open adminstrative doors by virtue of it's "advanced" time being babysat, i.e. more time in grad school getting this illustrious DPT vs. a simpler MPT.freddydpt said:Sorry, I totally don't mean to keep this going, because I was just visiting on this thread, but I promise that there is not one PT job on this planet that requires a DPT over an MPT. DPT is an entry level degree. In fact, PT's with bachelor's degrees are more sought out in a few cases because they are known to have more experience. (this becomes less and less each year)
BarryPod said:Does anyone know if there is a website to review the board scores from the different schools?
jonwill said:To answer the OP, DMU and Scholl have the highest pass rates of the schools. This has been a pretty consistent outcome.
ProdPod said:How can you claim this without all the stats?
Dr_Feelgood said:If you take out 40 CPMS students, that leaves about a 75% pass rate for the rest of the schools.
ProdPod said:Harsh!
ProdPod said:How can you claim this without all the stats?