Whuds, I was specifically referring to Hungary, except where I used the term 'CE' = "Central Europe", which does not include Russia.
Before I rebut your points, I might remind you that I'm not advising people to come to these schools unless they know exactly what they are getting into. However, in terms of licensure, please see below.
whuds said:
I don't think you want to go down this road with the Eastern European Medical Schools.
1. The English programs in all the Schools have not been Cali approved and you know that.
I was referring to Hungary. All English language programs at all Hungarian (by this I mean Hungarian chartered) medical schools are approved in California. Here is the link,
again.
From the medboard website:
Hungary
- University of Szeged Faculty of Medicine (including English program)
- University of Debrecen Faculty of Medicine (including English program)
- University of Semmelweis Faculty of Medicine (including English program)
- University of Pecs Faculty of Medicine (including English program)
- University of Albert Szent-Gyorgyi Faculty of Medicine (including English program)
- Pecs University Medical School (including English program)
2. The schools in Russia, some in Hungry, and some in other countries have not been approved for US government loans, this causes a problem and you know this.
Russian schools are to my knowledge not approved for government loans. Neither is St. Christopher's.
Hungarian schools, thanks to the
NCFMEA decision of comparability are eligible for loans. I have heard that Szeged has had problems with loans, but not the other schools. Prospective students from the U.S. need to be sure to call the Department of Education's Foreign Schools Team, whose contact information is listed at the bottom of that same
page.
whuds said:
3. Unless you can otherwise prove it, the medical institutions in these countries are not equal to medical instutions in the USA.
Yep. If you go abroad, you are an IMG. No question about that. You have all the disadvantages of IMG status. In addition, the Hungarian (or CE) medical curriculum is not oriented towards the USMLE.
However, my school is a bricks and mortar school with a long tradition of turning out physicians that have been licensed all over Europe and North America.
whuds said:
4. Any student who goes to the Eastern European Medical schools will have some dissadvantage to doing clinicals in Eastern Europe verses doing clinicals in the US and doing the steps there.
You know, that is a downside to going to CE. However, I did plenty of clinicals in NA. I set them up myself. Guess what, I found out that I'm just as good as the natives here.
whuds said:
I know you will rant and rage on this but it's all true. Maybe I should start posting " the truth" about Eastern European Medical schools, One of them wants 2000 USD for acceptance in their program, this money guarantees it .
You apparently haven't read my posts here or at ValueMD.
Just some of the things I advise potential students.
1) Do not consider coming to CE unless you know exactly what awaits you. Different culture, different language, different educational system, different expectations. Visit the school and speak to current students (preferably from your home country) to see what it is like.
2) Never, ever use an agent. (Please note that I have posted extensively on this.) BTW, admissions is not a problem. Getting through the system is. Admission is very far from a guaranteed diploma, as the attrition rate is around 50%.
3) Determine potential licensure issues before you come here.
4) Consider budgeting for a USMLE prep class, as the curriculum is not oriented towards passing the exam.
I'm more than willing to openly discuss the problems with Hungarian or CE medical schools.