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Well I'm a college senior and I was just accepted to medical school, and have learned a lot about what it takes to get to this point, and have some good tips too. Feel free to ask me anything.
What would you have done differently if you could start all over.
What's the specialty that you're interested in and why?
I'm trying to figure out what I want to specialize in if I became a doctor.
Thanks, that actually made me feel a little less strange.
What made you decide that being a doctor was right for you?
Ah, I love these threads. Thank you!
-What order did you take your science pre-reqs in? My student advisor recommends to take anatomy before general biology, what is your opinion?
-When did you take your MCAT? How many times?
-What are your plans for financing med school? (you can not answer this, or be as vague as you wish).
-Your undergrad study methods?
Well I'm a college senior and I was just accepted to medical school, and have learned a lot about what it takes to get to this point, and have some good tips too. Feel free to ask me anything.
Boxers or briefs?
Haha, Depends.
You mean these?
Just kidding.
Thanks for making this thread, I'm sure it will be a huge help to us high schoolers.
Would you recommend taking O-Chem freshman year? I already have all my gen chem and lab requirements done, and and was wondering if I would be at a major disadvantage taking it early?
I definitely want to reemphasize the GPA point again. Don't let a heavy courseload be the reason for a poor GPA. You aren't going to impress anyone by trying to bite off more than you can digest. I took a pretty light courseload as an undergrad (just did enough to stay as a full time student) and even in my two year post-bacc program, the science coursework was spaced out pretty nicely. I look like a slacker compared to most other premeds (who, in my humble opinion, are insane with the amount of work and ECs they try to take on). My comparatively light schedule was not brought up in any of my interviews I think because of my high GPA and MCAT (cGPA ~3.8, sGPA ~4.0).
Also, unless you are absolutely sure that you have solid study habits, don't force yourself to take too many science classes during your freshman year. For many people, college represents the first time when they are suddenly given a lot of freedom. You want to make sure you're settled in before you throw yourself into a schedule that demands consistent hard work and studying. Also, before you take chemistry or physics, make sure you have a solid grasp of at least algebra.
Another tip I would like to add is to do something that is of genuine interest to you. We all want to help people, but that doesn't mean we should be spending all of our free time in the ER volunteering. College is a great time to learn how to paint, or cook, or dance, or do something outside of the sciences. As a 'career-changer' (I use that term very loosely lol), adcoms definitely appreciated that I had many interests outside of medicine.
My final tip is to be yourself in your activities and to do things that you are truly passionate about (it's cliche but I do believe it's true). SDN is really full of overachievers and you might get the impression that you must go to a rural village in Africa, start your own premed club, etc. etc. in order to even have a shot at getting into medical school. I have no interest in any of those fancy 'look at me!' activities so my ECs are surprisingly bland and uninspired by comparison--but they paint a consistent picture of who I am as a person and applicant (e.g. hospital volunteering, research, painting, learning how to cook and cooking at a food shelter, some tutoring; no leadership at all). I worried a lot initially that I wasn't 'doing enough' but everything turned out alright for me (multiple acceptances at "top 20" and other great schools with full scholarships at some). It's not what you do in college that matters. It's why you choose to do them and how you present what you learned from those experiences that are going to influence your success at getting into medical school. If you choose to volunteer in the community or do research because you think it'll "look good" on your application, adcoms will be able to see right through it when they ask you about your motivations for doing those activities (they aren't stupid and are well-aware of the perceived admissions checklist).
Getting into medical school (in my opinion) comes down to having a good GPA, a good MCAT score, good LORs, a sincere personality and a logical motivation for pursuing medicine (i.e. 'your story'). If you are able to hit these few basic points, don't worry about all the other stuff (e.g. insane courseworks, resume padding activities, trying to be ultra-special and unique, etc.).
What prepatory materials, (if any) did you use for the MCAT?
How excited are you about med school?
That's good advice. You need to balance being a gunner pre-med, and enjoying your life. It is all about the balance. But I will also agree to re-stress the issue, keep that GPA up!
Agree about the balance, but I'd almost actually say that you might want to lean towards the chill / having fun side. College is no place for being a "gunner" -- a term that barely applies in undergrad anyway -- or for being hypercompetitive / hyperintense.
I'm over halfway through my third year of med school, and I will say that in retrospect, I'm so glad that I never let academic obligations keep me from doing fun stuff when I "should" have studied and gotten those extra couple of points on the next exam. Yeah, academia is priority to get into med school, but eventually, there is such a thing as "point of diminishing returns" where peace of mind and good memories are more important.
Okay tap, I'll stop hijacking your thread now.
You mean this in the context of when I said that I was accepted to a top 25 school? Most people value US News and World Report as the standard, generally the research subcategory, there is less "prestige" associated with their primary care ranking. But rankings are certainly not always agreed upon, nor does it mean one school is "better" than another. All med schools are great schools, rankings are far less important than they are for colleges.Can I ask which medical school ranking system/list youre using. There's a lot out there and I'm just wondering what people are using as their basis
How long did it take you to develop good study habits/How did you develop good study habits?
Right now, I use an "n-1" system. I do my 2nd block homework in first block, my 3rd block homework in 2nd block, and 1st block homework (if any) in 3rd block.
What did you major in? You may have said it but I don't recall.
Nope I never mentioned it, I majored in biology, pretty generic I know. You'll see though that med schools do not favor one major over another, so if your thinking about being a biochem or astrophysics major because it looks impressive, don't do it if it will be at the cost of your GPA, do it because it interests you and you'll do well. I've been to med school interviews with accounting majors, finance, history, music, english etc. Anything you can imagine. Click any med school's website and they'll brag about the nontraditional variety of majors they accept. As long as you do the required pre-reqs (chem, ochem, labs, physics, bio's etc), are ready (and do well) on the MCAT as a result, your actual major is very low on the list of things med schools care about. I think sometimes it may even help to be a non-traditional major, but who knows. Majoring in more traditional majors like bio forces you to take anatomy, physio, neuro's, histology etc that will not only help in med school, but help for the MCAT if you take them in time. But like I keep saying, accommodate your GPA.
Haha it was worth it anyway though. And I would say I wish I had done more formal research. It's easy to neglect, or not pursue research opportunities, but if you have any aspirations of attending a top 30 school, having some research experience (or ideally a publication), would be extremely helpful, and even arguable required. Pitt told me during my interview that 93% of its accepted students had done research. It's possible to attend a top tier school without research experience but its much harder. Schools like Harvard, Penn, Yale etc are research institutions primarily, and want to accept people who have shown interest in doing research. If your not interested, there's nothing wrong with attending a less research intensive school, you will still not only get your MD, but a great medical education, every MD school in this country is top notch, however these schools generally don't always have the "prestige" that people look for in schools like the ivys, and will fall lower on the US News rankings. For both college and med schools, where you go doesn't matter, its what you do when your there. That may not be as true when it comes time to choose a residency though, but that's far off for us both.What are somethings you wish you would have done/done differently in college that you didn't do?
Edit: You do ONE image search for adult diapers and Google spams Depends ads at you...
Thanks...I've been really stumped about the major thing if this all doesn't work out. I pretty much applied BioChem everywhere but now am thinking about other things, including physics, possibly accounting etc. I guess the good thing about BioChem or a related science is the MCAT prep you get, but if I can't get the GPA the prep is worthless.
Did you go greek?
Not quite sure what his sexual orientation has to do with anything.
Not quite sure what his sexual orientation has to do with anything.
Did you go greek?
Well, thats an interesting question, because as of today, I'm so excited to have gotten my first acceptance, it's hard to wish it was different, but I absolutely made some mistakes along the way.
For somebody in high school, I wish I stressed out less applying to college, because number one rule: it isn't where you go, it's what you do when you get there. For sure. A school's name isn't going to take you somewhere you don't deserve, and if you deserve to become a doctor, a state school's name won't hold you back a bit.
During college, keep your grades up as high as possible, but also enjoy your time. I wish I had stressed out less, getting by first B was the best thing that ever happened to me. Do not rush TOO much to finish the science pre-reqs, don't graduate in three years.
When you have to apply to med school, do it EARLY, pre-write the application secondaries, and study your butt off for the MCAT. My theory is that its sort of cheating that schools let you in based only off of one test, so all you have to do is master that test, and you can go anywhere. Dedicate a few months of your life to studying for it, and try to get a 33-40, and you'll be able to.
Don't stress, enjoy life, it'll pass by while your planning for the future.
Hey bro, thanks for the great service you're giving. I'm a non-traditional, and I was wondering what non-prereqs do you recommend I take before applying (for the '13 or '14 cycle)? I'm going to take Anatomy, Physiology, Microbio, and Genetics. Not sure if this is enough.
Are you slacking now that you've been accepted? I know I am, and I haven't even heard a decision from my 1st choice school. Can med schools/colleges rescind an acceptance due to a poor senior year?
anything your hear from myself, other SDNers, your advisor, parents or anybody Is just a single opinion, consider their viewpoint, but ultimately ALWAYS make your own decisions because your the one that will live with them.
Thanks a lot for posting this thread, I find it interesting and helpful. I wish you luck in your future medical career.