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Does the dual degree make it 5 years? What sort of specialties do you see yourself going into?
If you end up going into something high-paying (whatever that looks like post-covid), the extra year in school could end up costing as much as the entire cost of attendance at either of the schools you'd pay full price for. And if that puts them all on an even-ish playing field, Michigan would be my last choice.
400k COA becomes 450-500k after 4 years of med school and 7 years residency (length of residency if in a higher paying specialty like neurosurgery). No school is worth half a million more dollars, especially if you are comparing two schools in the top 20!Even if they do end up in something high paying, both UCSF and Perelman 4 year COA are almost 400k. Considering most high paying specialties have long residency, the cost becomes way greater when you account for interest accumulation during that time.
Take the full-ride and run! Michigan is a very highly regarded medical school and their other graduate programs are great too.
Taking an extra year to finish med school costs more than $500k if you're a neurosurgeon.400k COA becomes 450-500k after 4 years of med school and 7 years residency (length of residency if in a higher paying specialty like neurosurgery). No school is worth half a million more dollars, especially if you are comparing two schools in the top 20!
Does the dual degree make it 5 years? What sort of specialties do you see yourself going into?
If you end up going into something high-paying (whatever that looks like post-covid), the extra year in school could end up costing as much as the entire cost of attendance at either of the schools you'd pay full price for. And if that puts them all on an even-ish playing field, Michigan would be my last choice.
Not after taxes, normal living expenses, and malpractice... you probably have to be making at least 850k to have a 500k take home pay. And let me remind you... making 500k+ starting salary after residency is an anomaly. If you can avoid having debt and go to a good school that is almost always the best choice.Taking an extra year to finish med school costs more than $500k if you're a neurosurgeon.
Would also love to hear any perspectives about UCSF and Perelman if either one is able to offer more funding!
Full ride all the way.Hi all! Would appreciate any perspectives on deciding between a full ride for a dual degree at University of Michigan versus no financial aid at UCSF or Perelman, if all other factors are considered equal (family, friends, location, etc.) What are the added opportunities or name brand value with UCSF or Perelman?
Just because the others are a tier above Michigan. I'm not saying you shouldn't go to Michigan. If you want to do the dual degree, it's an obvious choice; I was never interested in another degree and am generally of the opinion that the tippy-top tier of schools are almost always worth it even at full price unless you know you want to do primary care. A lot of people even at Penn and UCSF end up taking a year off for research or whatever, so as soon as you do that you lose that angle.It does make it 5 years. Do you mind explaining a bit more about why Michigan would be your last choice?
It's not as far off as you may think. 500-600k is a common starting salary for neurosurgeons out of training. 850k is around average for neurosurgery.Not after taxes, normal living expenses, and malpractice... you probably have to be making at least 850k to have a 500k take home pay. And let me remind you... making 500k+ starting salary after residency is an anomaly. If you can avoid having debt and go to a good school that is almost always the best choice.
Not gonna lie -- I value the tippy-top academic pedigree and prestige factor and believe it can help you land the specialty and residency you want. If the cost of attendance difference were $100K, I'd say it was probably worth it to choose UCSF or Penn.
But the cost of attendance difference is nowhere near just $100K, and Michigan's a great school. When you're a resident and new attending and all of your friends are still broke, you'll be so very glad you did.
NoWould you say there's any prestige difference between UCSF vs. Penn?
Yes, but absolutely not worth forgoing a full ride.Would you say there's any prestige difference between UCSF vs. Penn?
Yes, but absolutely not worth forgoing a full ride.
NeitherUhh, so which one is more prestigious? Lmao
My bad, thought the comparison was between UCSF/Penn and Michigan. I agree, there is no difference in prestige between UCSF and Penn.Uhh, so which one is more prestigious? Lmao
Probably not worth passing up the free ride, but something to note:
One of Michigan's accepted students sexually harassed and impersonated a black female online. Michigan did nothing after they were informed, and this student will be matriculating this summer. If you do end up choosing Michigan, definitely be careful around this student (especially if you're a female). Be safe!