Airforce HPSP Pharmacy 2018

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Postponed to 10/18. here we gooo
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I think hurricane Michael hitting Tyndall AFB and the damage done in general is going to delay things in congress unfortunately...
 
mchgapharm said:
I think hurricane Michael hitting Tyndall AFB and the damage done in general is going to delay things in congress unfortunately...
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Oh true, that may have something to do with it. The pictures from Florida have been looking pretty devastating. Why do you mention congress? Does the state of congress have an impact on the selection board?
 
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I was told Congress has to approve the selected applicants or they at least have some part in the process? I don't know the details too well because didn't ask too much into this.
 
I don't think it'd have anything to do with selection. Congress has to approve the new fiscal year budgets which would determine how big the military force is.. But passed that, shouldn't matter. Separate entities.


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I haven't really heard anything. The couple times that I've checked in with my recruiter he's just said that we're waiting on the board and they have not updated him on a new projected timeline. He seemed pretty convinced it would be before the end of the month at the latest but it doesn't look like anyone really knows.
 
have you heard of anyone getting in with a criminal record? (couple of juvenile mistakes)...
 
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have you heard of anyone getting in with a criminal record? (couple of juvenile mistakes)...
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You have to undergo a background check and qualify for a security clearance - I believe at secret level. I don't know what criminal offenses are completely disqualifying though.
 
Wisconsin1997 said:
have you heard of anyone getting in with a criminal record? (couple of juvenile mistakes)...
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I haven't actually met anyone that's been selected so I cannot say with certainty, but I do know that you have to report all law violations. I have no criminal record but I do have a couple of minor traffic violations that I've received over the years dating back to when I was 16 and they wanted all the details around these tickets. At MEPS they discuss the importance of disclosing law violations and with my interview with the doctor he stated that traffic violations are taken seriously and any more might have a negative impact on my application. He explained that as officers there is an expectation to be an exemplary role model. Your recruiter is the best person to discuss the weight of your juvenile record on your application.
 
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I haven't actually met anyone that's been selected so I cannot say with certainty, but I do know that you have to report all law violations. I have no criminal record but I do have a couple of minor traffic violations that I've received over the years dating back to when I was 16 and they wanted all the details around these tickets. At MEPS they discuss the importance of disclosing law violations and with my interview with the doctor he stated that traffic violations are taken seriously and any more might have a negative impact on my application. He explained that as officers there is an expectation to be an exemplary role model. Your recruiter is the best person to discuss the weight of your juvenile record on your application.
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The 1st and only traffic violation that I received was when I running behind schedule to meet up with my recruiter for the HPSP meeting. I thought it would have been in poor tast to be late so I was driving 20 miles over the speed limit on the highway. Turns out that my recruiter was running behind schedule and I received a $200 fine and dent on my perfect record for nothing.
 
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Hi everyone! Last I heard the board postponed until November 1st. So we wouldn't get results prior to mid November is what I was told.

I'm pretty nervous and definitely don't feel competitive enough. I started the application process in June so I came in a little late to the game and rushed everything for the 2yr scholarship. I have a 3.5 GPA and lots of leadership and volunteering under my belt. My school requires it too. I was also told typically about 40 students apply and that 20 scholarships are available (I believe it's for a mix of 1yr and 2yr). I don't think I was this nervous applying for pharmacy school but the odds were much better then lol. It sounds like more than 40 applied based on what everyone here has been saying so good luck to everyone and fingers crossed!
 
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Hi everyone! Last I heard the board postponed until November 1st. So we wouldn't get results prior to mid November is what I was told.

I'm pretty nervous and definitely don't feel competitive enough. I started the application process in June so I came in a little late to the game and rushed everything for the 2yr scholarship. I have a 3.5 GPA and lots of leadership and volunteering under my belt. My school requires it too. I was also told typically about 40 students apply and that 20 scholarships are available (I believe it's for a mix of 1yr and 2yr). I don't think I was this nervous applying for pharmacy school but the odds were much better then lol. It sounds like more than 40 applied based on what everyone here has been saying so good luck to everyone and fingers crossed!
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Why do you say you don't feel competitive? Your GPA and leadership sound competitive. I was told leadership weighs heavy on the app. While the odds of HPSP aren't quite as good as pharmacy school apps, they aren't terrible. We're dealing with 1/2 to 1/4 of people applied will be selected. I'm just surprised that out of the ~63,000 pharmacy students in the US, only 40-80 apply for HPSP.
 
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Poison123 said:
Hi everyone! Last I heard the board postponed until November 1st. So we wouldn't get results prior to mid November is what I was told.

I'm pretty nervous and definitely don't feel competitive enough. I started the application process in June so I came in a little late to the game and rushed everything for the 2yr scholarship. I have a 3.5 GPA and lots of leadership and volunteering under my belt. My school requires it too. I was also told typically about 40 students apply and that 20 scholarships are available (I believe it's for a mix of 1yr and 2yr). I don't think I was this nervous applying for pharmacy school but the odds were much better then lol. It sounds like more than 40 applied based on what everyone here has been saying so good luck to everyone and fingers crossed!
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at least you don't have a record. I'm praying for a miracle
 
Well I was DQ'd because of a few passed kidney stones I had 3-8yr ago. I'm trying to get a waiver because the denial is reading as if I had like 15 stones instead of 3....but yeah.


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pharm2table said:
Why do you say you don't feel competitive? Your GPA and leadership sound competitive. I was told leadership weighs heavy on the app. While the odds of HPSP aren't quite as good as pharmacy school apps, they aren't terrible. We're dealing with 1/2 to 1/4 of people applied will be selected. I'm just surprised that out of the ~63,000 pharmacy students in the US, only 40-80 apply for HPSP.
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My ranking at school is not competitive. I'm ranked 78/124 and that was part of the application. I also just know the odds suck and I am being quite pessimistic about it. I also had a really short amount of time to work on this application. like I had a week to answer the questions and I don't feel like I was able to convey myself very well. I'm just nervous. I really hope we find out in November and don't have to wait longer like last year did!
 
Wisconsin1997 said:
at least you don't have a record. I'm praying for a miracle
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Fingers crossed for you! Good luck! I think the fact that this was all juvenile and you're clearly showing that you want to be a helpful member of society. It's important to note and I think it speaks highly of you and I hope the board recognizes that!
 
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Well I was DQ'd because of a few passed kidney stones I had 3-8yr ago. I'm trying to get a waiver because the denial is reading as if I had like 15 stones instead of 3....but yeah.


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I had a lot of my own issues with MEPS and barely made the cutoff date myself. Actually I didn't, but the fact that the board delayed helped me get my application in on time. I hope the waiver works out! Just keep calling and bugging them about it. It took me 3 months to get a cardio appointment and it wouldn't have happened if I didn't keep harassing my recruiter
 
Poison123 said:
My ranking at school is not competitive. I'm ranked 78/124 and that was part of the application. I also just know the odds suck and I am being quite pessimistic about it. I also had a really short amount of time to work on this application. like I had a week to answer the questions and I don't feel like I was able to convey myself very well. I'm just nervous. I really hope we find out in November and don't have to wait longer like last year did!
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That's interesting, I guess the 78/124 gives your 3.5 GPA a reference. That's actually pretty crazy that over half you class has above a 3.5. Out of curiosity, are your school's NAPLEX pass rates good? I had slightly less than a 3.5, but I don't recall the app asking for my class ranking (I didn't provide it, nor do I even know it).
 
Poison123 said:
I had a lot of my own issues with MEPS and barely made the cutoff date myself. Actually I didn't, but the fact that the board delayed helped me get my application in on time. I hope the waiver works out! Just keep calling and bugging them about it. It took me 3 months to get a cardio appointment and it wouldn't have happened if I didn't keep harassing my recruiter
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Yeah my app is in it was just going to be contingent on a passing MEPS eval. I still haven't been. My stuff got denied and sent to SG. Then I got DQd through the SG. The thing is, they read the docs wrong so I'm trying to appeal it.


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drbaker2020 said:
Yeah my app is in it was just going to be contingent on a passing MEPS eval. I still haven't been. My stuff got denied and sent to SG. Then I got DQd through the SG. The thing is, they read the docs wrong so I'm trying to appeal it.


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I also got DQ'd (since been waived) due to a wrong code entered for a medical condition. Seems like they need a pharmacist to double check these documents for submitting them!
 
pharm2table said:
That's interesting, I guess the 78/124 gives your 3.5 GPA a reference. That's actually pretty crazy that over half you class has above a 3.5. Out of curiosity, are your school's NAPLEX pass rates good? I had slightly less than a 3.5, but I don't recall the app asking for my class ranking (I didn't provide it, nor do I even know it).
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It was on the paperwork my school had to fill out. Our NAPLEX pass rates used to be some of the best. We were ranked number one and then in the top five for awhile, but the last two years they dropped significantly. Still at national average though. My class is strange apparently. About 40% are getting A's on all of the exams while 20% are completely failing. The rest are in the middle somewhere. I actually got a C my first semester because I was working 40 hrs a week due to my hospital changing software and everyone leaving. I ended up failing a test and was 1 point shy of a B. So that's mostly where I am concerned.
 
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its weird, I have a juvenile record but my recruiter says i don't need moral waivers...
 
drbaker2020 said:
Well I was DQ'd because of a few passed kidney stones I had 3-8yr ago. I'm trying to get a waiver because the denial is reading as if I had like 15 stones instead of 3....but yeah.


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I was initially DQ too. Just get that waiver and reapply if need be.
 
drbaker2020 said:
Yeah my app is in it was just going to be contingent on a passing MEPS eval. I still haven't been. My stuff got denied and sent to SG. Then I got DQd through the SG. The thing is, they read the docs wrong so I'm trying to appeal it.


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You must really want to be in the AF after they told you they don't want you. More power to you. You may want to also apply for Navy and Army HPSP. You don't have to say yes if you're accepted, but apply. The Army, Navy, and AF have dual spouse programs that will geolocate you into similar locations. I'm an Army guy and have zero regrets joining the Army. At the end of the day, all three services are the same when it comes to healthcare. Also, the AF has some very bad locations too in addition to some awesome locations. All three services have that. I wouldn't make base locations as part of your reasons for applying AF only.
 
Caverject said:
You must really want to be in the AF after they told you they don't want you. More power to you. You may want to also apply for Navy and Army HPSP. You don't have to say yes if you're accepted, but apply. The Army, Navy, and AF have dual spouse programs that will geolocate you into similar locations. I'm an Army guy and have zero regrets joining the Army. At the end of the day, all three services are the same when it comes to healthcare. Also, the AF has some very bad locations too in addition to some awesome locations. All three services have that. I wouldn't make base locations as part of your reasons for applying AF only.
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I did really want to join. I'm a bit SOL now. I wanted AF due to the scholarship and my husband being AF. Army won't do anything until graduation (talked to a recruiter already) so I'm checking with Navy. Duty station isn't really a consideration. My husband is AF and we've only been to one base in 6yrs, the others Army.


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@drbaker2020 I can't believe you still haven't even heard back from them yet if you're even eligible. I expected a bit more organization and coordination with the whole process.

Now that it's the end of the month, any word on a timeline for the selection release? At this point are we thinking mid November?
 
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@drbaker2020 I can't believe you still haven't even heard back from them yet if you're even eligible. I expected a bit more organization and coordination with the whole process.

Now that it's the end of the month, any word on a timeline for the selection release? At this point are we thinking mid November?
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I just heard back last week. I'm permanently DQ'd because a Hx of kidney stones...so there's that.


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pharm2table said:
I'm sorry to hear that. Does that mean army HPSP is out of the question to?
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Army said they didn't have anything since I didn't ROTC. It is very possible military is out of the question since MEPS is not branch specific.


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drbaker2020 said:
Army said they didn't have anything since I didn't ROTC. It is very possible military is out of the question since MEPS is not branch specific.


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unfortunately I think you may be correct due to MEPS not being branch specific. You can always find a civilian job near your husband's base I suppose. Or maybe even a pharmacist job on post? I'm not sure how civilian contractors in health facilities works.
 
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unfortunately I think you may be correct due to MEPS not being branch specific. You can always find a civilian job near your husband's base I suppose. Or maybe even a pharmacist job on post? I'm not sure how civilian contractors in health facilities works.
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I don't think I can do it civilian. It's low pay without all the benefits like BAH and whatnot. I talked to one place that hired at GS9 which is pretty bad for a pharmacist.


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pharm2table said:
@drbaker2020 I can't believe you still haven't even heard back from them yet if you're even eligible. I expected a bit more organization and coordination with the whole process.

Now that it's the end of the month, any word on a timeline for the selection release? At this point are we thinking mid November?
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I was told today by my recruiter that we should know by Nov. 9th.
 
Dr.dreads said:
I was told today by my recruiter that we should know by Nov. 9th.
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For what it's worth I was told that a board member who's overseas is having technical issues accessing the system and there's no updated timeframe

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For what it's worth I was told that a board member who's overseas is having technical issues accessing the system and there's no updated timeframe

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My recruiter did say that there “a little issue with a board member.” I didn’t ask for him to elaborate, but maybe that is the cause.
I just cannot take all this suspense in the middle of studying for VTE.
 
drbaker2020 said:
I did really want to join. I'm a bit SOL now. I wanted AF due to the scholarship and my husband being AF. Army won't do anything until graduation (talked to a recruiter already) so I'm checking with Navy. Duty station isn't really a consideration. My husband is AF and we've only been to one base in 6yrs, the others Army.


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I'm reasonably certain that is not true. The Army has an HPSP program. It wouldn't surprise me if most Army recruiters don't know about it. May want to ask a different recruiter.
 
Caverject said:
I'm reasonably certain that is not true. The Army has an HPSP program. It wouldn't surprise me if most Army recruiters don't know about it. May want to ask a different recruiter.
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Yeah a good recruiter is hard to find. Know any in Texas


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drbaker2020 said:
I don't think I can do it civilian. It's low pay without all the benefits like BAH and whatnot. I talked to one place that hired at GS9 which is pretty bad for a pharmacist.


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That's an exception, not the norm. Most, if not all, hire at GS-11. The GS-9 deal is meant for residents. Also keep in mind, locality pay is not part of the pay table and can be huge bonuses. Like seriously huge.
 
drbaker2020 said:
Yeah a good recruiter is hard to find. Know any in Texas


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according to dodi 6130.03, kidney stones is not a disqualifyer. You may want to follow up with your af recruiter. If they are unhelpful, ask and work with the name in charge of the recruiter. Many times, the recruiter just didn't know. good luck
 
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according to dodi 6130.03, kidney stones is not a disqualifyer. You may want to follow up with your af recruiter. If they are unhelpful, ask and work with the name in charge of the recruiter. Many times, the recruiter just didn't know. good luck
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Yeah it is. I had a bilateral renal caliculi and urolithiasis that required cystoscopy.

It's under urinary system.


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Caverject said:
I'm reasonably certain that is not true. The Army has an HPSP program. It wouldn't surprise me if most Army recruiters don't know about it. May want to ask a different recruiter.
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That's interesting, I was also told that the Army wouldn't do anything until I graduated. It's one of the main reasons I settled on applying for the Air Force

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That's interesting, I was also told that the Army wouldn't do anything until I graduated. It's one of the main reasons I settled on applying for the Air Force

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Yeah I heard army only takes direct accession but you can start contact 6mo prior to graduation and navy takes direct accession after 6mo of experience post grad. They have a hscp but only 2-3yr ones and you don't get a scholarship, only pay.


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I just got an email saying that they're still waiting for results and there's no tentative date set.

Sounds like this is the first year that they're virtually evaluating applications in the evaluators' own free time which is different from past years when they evaluated all applications at once. I wonder if this will delay results even more than it has in the past.
 
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