Actual Podiatry Job Postings

[msion]

Do we still need more proof to show our professions leaders? Is APMA going to keep sending emails saying SDN is making up stories?

Nah... let's just learn some coding/unbundling tips from our leaders.

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[wakaflocka88]

I really wish referring PCPs understood what insurance covers and what they dont.
Its by far the most frustrating part of my job.

...and non weightbearing xrays.

Usually no XR for me. As our chief of ortho said distinctly at our department meeting, “PCPs don’t know **** about MSK pathology”

 

[Sweatshirt]

Wait... That doesn't fit the narrative.

He has a larger mustache to compensate for the age so it all checks out

 

[NatCh]

He has a larger mustache to compensate for the age so it all checks out

Is it an ironic hipster millenial mustache?

 

[ExperiencedDPM]

Nah... let's just learn some coding/unbundling tips from our leaders.
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Don’t get me started on the Warren Joseph of coding. He spews a lot of misinformation, but the clueless sheep flock to his lectures. He’s made a career on friggin’ Q modifiers.

 

[Feli]

Don’t get me started on the Warren Joseph of coding. He spews a lot of misinformation, but the clueless sheep flock to his lectures. He’s made a career on friggin’ Q modifiers.

You must respect the FASPS!

 

[Shiyuan]

Associate Podiatrist​

Busted Crumbles Valley, KY

Job details

Salary
$10,000 - $30,000 a year

Job Type
Full-time

Requirements: ABFAS, ABPM and ABMSP certification a must. Fellowship experience encouraged. Need to be able to manage LMA anesthesia for PNA procedures. Must grow a mustache like our owner’s (please see attached photo). Know the in’s and out’s of Whirlpool bath maintenance. Must take all hospital call (including nail care consults in the psych ward). Know how to talk people into buying Tolcylen, aka Nectar of the Gods.

Our office also provides a generous benefits package including: Free coffee in break room (Dollar Tree brand), PTO (5 FULL DAYS!) and CME allowance ($50.70 per year).

Position likely to fill quickly; please send inquiries (serious inquiries only, preeze) to:

[email protected]

 

[dtrack22]

Edit - a derm practice hiring a pod..interesting.. A few legit jobs on there, that Idaho one looks nice.

With Caldwell being a Boise suburb and your employer being the same one that employs the Coughlin folks, I think that one would be fascinating to see what kind of limitations (if any) get put on your privileges and the type of pathology you are allowed to see. Are you far enough away that ankle stuff slips through the cracks? Does this end up being a lot more non surgical than a new grad or younger DPM thinks he/she wants? The only person around here who seems to care a whole lot about being respected by ortho and being able to cut on anything foot/ankle related was recently banned, but I think a lot of people would similarly struggle in dealing with an ortho dept that doesn’t like you. i.e. Coughlin grads.

 

[NatCh]

Can we go back to the topic of local injections in uncooperative patients in the office for a sec? I just remembered a patient from several years ago who was into mixed martial arts. I can't recall exactly what the foot problem was that he had but we were discussing sedation for it. He asked that if he were to need it, could he bring a training buddy with him to choke him unconscious for a sec to give me time to do whatever? Apparently they put each other to sleep all the time, so...

 

[ExperiencedDPM]

Can we go back to the topic of local injections in uncooperative patients in the office for a sec? I just remembered a patient from several years ago who was into mixed martial arts. I can't recall exactly what the foot problem was that he had but we were discussing sedation for it. He asked that if he were to need it, could he bring a training buddy with him to choke him unconscious for a sec to give me time to do whatever? Apparently they put each other to sleep all the time, so...

Could have been worse….at least it didn’t involve erotic asphyxiation.

 

[NatCh]

Could have been worse….at least it didn’t involve erotic asphyxiation.

Hmmm. Maybe it did and I just didn't realize it.

 

[dtrack22]

at least it didn’t involve erotic asphyxiation.

You don’t know that it didn’t…

 

[619]

Edit - a derm practice hiring a pod..interesting.. A few legit jobs on there, that Idaho one looks nice.

With Caldwell being a Boise suburb and your employer being the same one that employs the Coughlin folks, I think that one would be fascinating to see what kind of limitations (if any) get put on your privileges and the type of pathology you are allowed to see. Are you far enough away that ankle stuff slips through the cracks? Does this end up being a lot more non surgical than a new grad or younger DPM thinks he/she wants? The only person around here who seems to care a whole lot about being respected by ortho and being able to cut on anything foot/ankle related was recently banned, but I think a lot of people would similarly struggle in dealing with an ortho dept that doesn’t like you. i.e. Coughlin grads.

In all honesty, a derm practice hiring a podiatrist is not looking for a foot and ankle surgeon. This derm position is not looking for someone to do ankle fractures or IM nail or charcot recon. This position is most likely a clinic non-op position which I don't see anything wrong with it. I have said previously that I enjoy my clinic days.

By joining a derm clinic, you are already limiting yourself but not in a bad way. For those that like derm pathologies then this will be a dream job for the right candidate. Make good income working 8-5 with no call or weekends. You can't work in a derm clinic and be taking call at the hospital or expecting an ankle fracture to swing by.

The problem with 3 year surgical residency for everyone means that most new grads believe they will be in the OR everyday and twice on Sunday however nothing could be further from the truth.

 

[619]

A dermatologist is sending you referrals for skin biopsies and rashes? That seems… strange.

100%. Got a recent referral from my derm asking me to biopsy a toenail matrix for concern of melanoma.

Go visit your local derm to hand out card and you will be surprised when the referrals start coming in. Seems strange but true.

Also, I think it’s pretty well known and obvious that a dermatologist doesn’t want to deal with corns and calluses…

How many so called routine corns and calluses turns out to be a plantar wart? I am sure we have all seen many cases.

Dermatologist will happily treat a palmar warts (and not refer to a hand specialist) but will refer a plantar wart to a podiatrist. Strange but true.
I am not complaining. I love it.

 

[dtrack22]

In all honesty, a derm practice hiring a podiatrist is not looking for a foot and ankle surgeon. This derm position is not looking for someone to do ankle fractures or IM nail or charcot recon. This position is most likely a clinic non-op position which I don't see anything wrong with it. I have said previously that I enjoy my clinic days.

Wrong job. I was commenting on the employed job in Idaho. Caldwell. A Boise suburb. Kind of.

 

[619]

Wrong job. I was commenting on the employed job in Idaho. Caldwell. A Boise suburb. Kind of.

My bad

 

[Adam Smasher]

Don’t get me started on the Warren Joseph of coding. He spews a lot of misinformation, but the clueless sheep flock to his lectures. He’s made a career on friggin’ Q modifiers.

I learned a lot when I was fresh out of residency from listening to Lehrman's webinars. He's not my messiah, nor is he the only source I refer to for billing/coding. But I found him to be a helpful resource.

Genuinely curious what you find so objectionable???

 

[eyeeye_captain]

Can we go back to the topic of local injections in uncooperative patients in the office for a sec? I just remembered a patient from several years ago who was into mixed martial arts. I can't recall exactly what the foot problem was that he had but we were discussing sedation for it. He asked that if he were to need it, could he bring a training buddy with him to choke him unconscious for a sec to give me time to do whatever? Apparently they put each other to sleep all the time, so...

1. Never show the patient the needle (way easier for you than me)
2. Speak calmly about some topic other than shots, or you can discuss their follow up
3. Provide stuffed animal for comfort
4. Squirt medicine on the wall
5. Send patient out (“I didn’t feel a thing!”) and repeat

 

[NatCh]

1. Never show the patient the needle (way easier for you than me)
2. Speak calmly about some topic other than shots, or you can discuss their follow up
3. Provide stuffed animal for comfort
4. Squirt medicine on the wall
5. Send patient out (“I didn’t feel a thing!”) and repeat

I want to choke someone out.

 

[Weirdy]

Could have been worse….at least it didn’t involve erotic asphyxiation.

....can i bill for that?

 

[ExperiencedDPM]

I learned a lot when I was fresh out of residency from listening to Lehrman's webinars. He's not my messiah, nor is he the only source I refer to for billing/coding. But I found him to be a helpful resource.

Genuinely curious what you find so objectionable???

Sorry, too much to write here. But he’s pirated other people’s lectures (without giving credit) when they speak on a topic he never mentioned in his own prior lectures. Next lecture he gives is verbatim from what he heard.

He’s pompous and will never reply to any correspondence unless it’s to offer him a paying lecture. One of my associates reached out to him several times about a concern (not free advice) and never once received the courtesy of a reply.

 

[icebreaker32]

Nurse Practitioner Wound Care
Vascular Associates of Southern California Inc
Apple Valley, CA 92307

Job details
Salary
From $140,000 a year
Job Type
Full-time

Work in collaboration with Podiatrists to diagnose, manage, and provide comprehensive care to patients with pathologies below the knee.

• Perform follow up consultation on surgical debridement patients
• Apply Skin Substitute grafts on candidate venous and diabetic foot ulcers
• Assist with procedures such as nail avulsion, matrixectomy, orthotic molding
• Order and interpret medical imaging, labs, x-rays
• Identify patients that are candidates for surgery
• Prescribe medication and design treatment plans with providers and staff
• Request treatment modalities appropriate to each patient’s pathology and needs.

Benefits:

• 401(k)
• 401(k) matching
• Dental insurance
• Health insurance
• Life insurance
• Paid time off
• Vision insurance

Sorry, too much to write here. But he’s pirated other people’s lectures (without giving credit) when they speak on a topic he never mentioned in his own prior lectures. Next lecture he gives is verbatim from what he heard.

He’s pompous and will never reply to any correspondence unless it’s to offer him a paying lecture. One of my associates reached out to him several times about a concern (not free advice) and never once received the courtesy of a reply.

I once called and emailed him a couple of times about something related to a company he consulted for....never heard back.

 

[CaptainCool]

Wait... That doesn't fit the narrative.

I’m a few days behind, but I know that practice. The girl who bought it has family money, her parents own a large home healthcare company

 

[PeaJay]

Nurse Practitioner, Podiatry​

Ascension
Milwaukee, WI
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10 days ago
Full-time
Job highlights
Identified by Google from the original job post
Qualifications
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BLS Provider obtained within 1 Month (30 days) of hire date or job transfer date required
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American Heart Association or American Red Cross accepted
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Nurse Practitioner credentialed from the Minnesota Board of Nursing obtained prior to hire date or job transfer date
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Licensure is dependent on state associate works in
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Licensure from the Wisconsin Board of Nursing OR current home state license if considered multi-state/Compact State
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Master's degree of Nursing required
Responsibilities
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Obtains patient history and performs assessment via observation, interview and examination
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Orders, performs and interprets diagnostic studies
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Performs preventative health assessments, screening, immunizations and patient care
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Provides direct treatment and management of health conditions via referral to other healthcare providers or community resources
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Counsels and educates patients and their families/caregivers concerning preventative health, treatment options and community resources
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Documents delivery of health care and nursing processes in accordance with specific specialty area standards and network nursing policy

 

[icebreaker32]

I’m a few days behind, but I know that practice. The girl who bought it has family money, her parents own a large home healthcare company

As much as I complain and post about jobs like this until the saturation ends, accepting a job like this for many after residency will not change.

Nursing home jobs and low paying associate jobs, even the ones with low bases but reasonable potential, only exist because the market allows it.

The only redeeming quality about this job is one can work it part time if they want and build their own practice elsewhere or move on a couple years later.

It is not how I think, but some would argue without these low paying jobs, that nobody forces anyone to take, the profession would be even worse off and there would be even less jobs available to new residency graduates.

If supply and demand were better.....the nursing home toenail jobs would end.....a RN or very often a LPN can do that. The low base offers for private practice jobs would become moderate bases with attainable bonuses, moving allowances or small signing bonuses and better benefits. The low paying Medi/Medi clinics run by podiatrists would die and those patients could be seen at a FQHC, by a hospital employed podiatrist, at a community hospital or ER like for the rest of medicine.

 

[Boba Foot]

Sorry, too much to write here. But he’s pirated other people’s lectures (without giving credit) when they speak on a topic he never mentioned in his own prior lectures. Next lecture he gives is verbatim from what he heard.

He’s pompous and will never reply to any correspondence unless it’s to offer him a paying lecture. One of my associates reached out to him several times about a concern (not free advice) and never once received the courtesy of a reply.

you’re not exactly backing up your “misinformation” claim here…

 

[ExperiencedDPM]

you’re not exactly backing up your “misinformation” claim here…

I believe I clearly stated that it is too much to write. If you admire him and follow his advice, I’m not going to attempt to persuade you differently.

 

[podoloco]

Optum Podiatry Coding Companion
Amazon product

This is an excellent resource. Has code descriptions, related diagnosis, RVUs, Globals, CCI Edits. Does not cover all the general rules of billing, but if you just avoid unbundling your procedures, you would meet 90% of them.

 

[air bud]

Optum Podiatry Coding Companion
Amazon product

This is an excellent resource. Has code descriptions, related diagnosis, RVUs, Globals, CCI Edits. Does not cover all the general rules of billing, but if you just avoid unbundling your procedures, you would meet 90% of them.

Yeah just grabbed one, have been using a 2016 copy. Also, if you have CME to burn I have found the apma coding resource center to be very very useful.

 

[PatchAdamsFan]

I like the Optum coding book. I've also been using Codify (AAPC), I found it to be like the Optum book but with "real time" changes. Also recommend, if CME money is aplenty.

 

[Feli]

... I have found the apma coding resource center to be very very useful.

Employer should pay for this in most employed situations... it is SUPER useful imo, esp for surgery and uncommon stuff and the CPT > ICD10 mapping.

 

[ExperiencedDPM]

If you or your employer want to spend a few bucks and go to the next level, I’d highly recommend subscribing to the online version of Optum Encoder Pro 360. Our practice has used it for many years.

 

[bloxxeeey]

2nd year resident right now the job offers I've gotten have been.

1. 70k base, bonus after 500k collections. They'll cover malpractice, no benefits. - Metro
2. 105k base, no bonus for 1st year. They'll cover malpractice and benefits. - Rural
3. 85k base, bonus after 350k collections, 20%. They'll cover malpractice but subsidized benefits (Not sure of specifics there). - Small city

Fortunately, with my wife completing her bachelors degree this Spring, she was able to find a job paying 190k and work from home. I could take a lower paying job or even move out rural to take a higher paying job.

 

[Shiyuan]

2nd year resident right now the job offers I've gotten have been.

1. 70k base, bonus after 500k collections. They'll cover malpractice, no benefits. - Metro
2. 105k base, no bonus for 1st year. They'll cover malpractice and benefits. - Rural
3. 85k base, bonus after 350k collections, 20%. They'll cover malpractice but subsidized benefits (Not sure of specifics there). - Small city

Fortunately, with my wife completing her bachelors degree this Spring, she was able to find a job paying 190k and work from home. I could take a lower paying job or even move out rural to take a higher paying job.

Wow. What a joke. Avoid podiatry groups

 

[bloxxeeey]

Wow. What a joke. Avoid podiatry groups

I know I would like to, I am starting much earlier than most residents but I wanted to field out opportunities and see what people were looking for.

 

[Shiyuan]

VA, FQHC, Ortho, Derm, ID, Hosp., MSG all da way.

 

[de Ribas]

Wow. What a joke. Avoid podiatry groups

Fixed that for you.

 

[de Ribas]

2nd year resident right now the job offers I've gotten have been.

1. 70k base, bonus after 500k collections. They'll cover malpractice, no benefits. - Metro
2. 105k base, no bonus for 1st year. They'll cover malpractice and benefits. - Rural
3. 85k base, bonus after 350k collections, 20%. They'll cover malpractice but subsidized benefits (Not sure of specifics there). - Small city

Fortunately, with my wife completing her bachelors degree this Spring, she was able to find a job paying 190k and work from home. I could take a lower paying job or even move out rural to take a higher paying job.

This is one of the strongest evidences that podiatry doesn't need 600 new grads every year. We need 400 at most. As podiatry becomes more surgical and training gets better, many grads will be fighting for surgical positions to utilize their training and get adequate compensation.

In the past, non-surgical pods could settle in small towns and rural areas where they could clip nails all day and see warts, ingrown/fungal nails and some other foot pathologies. This trend is changing. Now grads come out with better surgical training and expect to use their skills. Many avoid rural areas and not willing to see nails patients, warts, fungus, etc. There are no 600 annual surgical jobs out there. I doubt that there are even 400 good jobs out there based on where people have to settle just to have a job with 80-100k salaries.

 

[wakaflocka88]

2nd year resident right now the job offers I've gotten have been.

1. 70k base, bonus after 500k collections. They'll cover malpractice, no benefits. - Metro
2. 105k base, no bonus for 1st year. They'll cover malpractice and benefits. - Rural
3. 85k base, bonus after 350k collections, 20%. They'll cover malpractice but subsidized benefits (Not sure of specifics there). - Small city

Fortunately, with my wife completing her bachelors degree this Spring, she was able to find a job paying 190k and work from home. I could take a lower paying job or even move out rural to take a higher paying job.

Worst case scenario, you can try to contact these private equity groups that are buying out practices (Optum, Upperline, Balance Health, etc). They are always hiring around my area. Yes it’s still trash but at least the pay and benefits are a little better than these scum bag groups. Get some experience and then GTFO for hopefully something better. My first job paid awful but it was a good learning experience that I used to my advantage.

 

[icebreaker32]

VA, FQHC, Ortho, Derm, ID, Hosp., MSG all da way.

Have seen more cardiology groups lately also

 

[NatCh]

Fortunately, with my wife completing her bachelors degree this Spring, she was able to find a job paying 190k and work from home. I could take a lower paying job or even move out rural to take a higher paying job.

What field is your wife going into?

 

[bloxxeeey]

What field is your wife going into?

Computer science degree, she got a great deal, with her stock options and sign on bonus her first year comp is looking to be arounds 260k. I thought about going back and going this route but I've dug myself into this hole already.

 

[NatCh]

Computer science degree, she got a great deal, with her stock options and sign on bonus her first year comp is looking to be arounds 260k. I thought about going back and going this route but I've dug myself into this hole already.

I'm telling my daughter RIGHT NOW.

 

[Scrantonicity]

Computer science degree, she got a great deal, with her stock options and sign on bonus her first year comp is looking to be arounds 260k. I thought about going back and going this route but I've dug myself into this hole already.

Dang, dude. I would just take whatever job is in the coolest city, since you don't have the pressure of making a ton of money for your family to survive. You don't have to care about crappy pay as much. I'd just relax and get the experience you need being out in practice as an associate for 2-3 years, then just start your own thing. Probably won't even have to take out a loan if ya'll are good with money....
Just make sure you don't sign a non-compete, or make sure it's not very restrictive if you wanna stay put later.

 

[bloxxeeey]

I'm telling my daughter RIGHT NOW.

Its a very tough degree, the concepts are very different from what we learn, mind you it's four years of hell vs 8 years of hell for us and 3 years of residency which is an extra hell. TBH when she was interning/doing work rotations as a student, she made more than I will as an attending. 100% great ROI. Having said that her offer is a little towards the higher side, most of her classmates from her experience have gotten jobs in the 110-150k range I'd say about 25-30% of the students she graduate with have gotten offers in the 200+ range and from what it sounds like 5-10 years in she should be clearing 500k total comp.

Dang, dude. I would just take whatever job is in the coolest city, since you don't have the pressure of making a ton of money for your family to survive. You don't have to care about crappy pay as much. I'd just relax and get the experience you need being out in practice as an associate for 2-3 years, then just start your own thing. Probably won't even have to take out a loan if ya'll are good with money....
Just make sure you don't sign a non-compete, or make sure it's not very restrictive if you wanna stay put later.

Yeah very lucky, unfortunately the need/feeling to provide is still there.

 

[PatchAdamsFan]

most of her classmates from her experience have gotten jobs in the 110-150k range I'd say about 25-30% of the students she graduate with have gotten offers in the 200+ range and from what it sounds like 5-10 years in she should be clearing 500k total comp.

Having grown up in the silicon valley, these numbers are very accurate. Even in non-FAANG companies, I have buddies closing in on retirement. Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled programming of arguing if us foot docs deserve 80k or 120k base associate salaries.

 

[Prehealth1011]

2nd year resident right now the job offers I've gotten have been.

1. 70k base, bonus after 500k collections. They'll cover malpractice, no benefits. - Metro
2. 105k base, no bonus for 1st year. They'll cover malpractice and benefits. - Rural
3. 85k base, bonus after 350k collections, 20%. They'll cover malpractice but subsidized benefits (Not sure of specifics there). - Small city

Why Podiatry wouldn't be competitive if it was an MD/DO residency

brb while I learn computer science

 

[deleted1138023]

is this podiatry's biggest success story? how much do these associates make?

 

[icebreaker32]

One of the earlier big name surgical PP groups in the profession. Imagine associate compensation is highly dependent on production.

 

[PTPuser]

2nd year resident right now the job offers I've gotten have been.

1. 70k base, bonus after 500k collections. They'll cover malpractice, no benefits. - Metro
2. 105k base, no bonus for 1st year. They'll cover malpractice and benefits. - Rural
3. 85k base, bonus after 350k collections, 20%. They'll cover malpractice but subsidized benefits (Not sure of specifics there). - Small city

Fortunately, with my wife completing her bachelors degree this Spring, she was able to find a job paying 190k and work from home. I could take a lower paying job or even move out rural to take a higher paying job.

If you figure out the best option to leave, please share, cause I'll do it too.