Zoloft and Dentistry?

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poetikfuzion

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Hey everyone...
I have anxiety/depression but also a great GPA and plan to get good DAT scores....recently my doc gave me zoloft, which I have taken for two days...tho I plan to quit. I mean, its made me happier, but this hapiness is fake...even I can tell that. Just wanted some opinions on this...would you take the meds? Any natural remedies...could it be all this stress? Thanks!
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When did you develop anxiety disorder?
I wont advise you to apply this year cos you are too stressful.
Deal with what you have to and come back with full strength.

Good luck poetikfuzion

medication is to treat symptoms, not the disorder.
i suggest you take medication though, but know that you have to face your problems
find the cause and work things out
 
With the statistics that states dentists how the highest suicide rates in the nation, I am wondering why someone with depression would choose this field. Honestly, no offense, I am just wondering.
 
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Second ecodoesit.. I don't think it's wrong for someone with those "disorders" to go into a profession. Alot of people in every profession are affected by stuff like this, even in...hold your breath..dentistry. If you have the courage to see a drug as false happiness and ask for advice, then I think you're on the right path. I would probably not take the drug, and just reassure myself that everything is going to work out (which it will). If you have your heart set on being a dentist, then you'll get there. Best of luck.

Ryan
 
really depend on your condition.
please dont FORGET that drugs have a potency(or latency) period.
it works for awhile even if u stop taking it.
but the anxiety will show up again pretty soon.

definitely, go to see a doctor and listen to their advice.
 
The zoloft really won't work until two weeks of taking it.
Since you have been taking the meds for two days, the happiness you are experiencing is a placebo effect.
Anti depressents don't make you happy. They make you normal again. They make you feel like you use to be when you were not depressed.
It's not like smoking weed or taking ecstacy. It doesn't just make you happy all the sudden. The purpose of taking anti depressents is to get you back into shape so you can deal with everyday life and fix what was wrong. You need to take it while going to counceling to work on your issues. The issues are what are dragging you down and medicine can only temporarily fix it. It's what's inside that needs to be changed.
Antidepressants aren't like taking medication for hypertension.
It's not just a drug to fix a medical problem. It's a lot deeper than that. If you have bad anxiety, I see no problem with taking zoloft. It will help you deal with every day life again.
 
Originally posted by croco
With the statistics that states dentists how the highest suicide rates in the nation, I am wondering why someone with depression would choose this field.

Those stats are a myth. Show me the statistics, but don't quote an urban legend.
 
Who isn't overly stressed and anxious at this point in our lives? Not only do we have Dental School and our careers to worry about, but look at the world we live in. Many people resort to taking medicine for the symptoms, which is perfectly fine - thank goodness for those who discovered them. It bothers me to see someone post and tell this person not to apply this year and come back when you are feeling better. Are the problems going to be gone next year? More than likely not so suck it up, tell yourself you're the bomb and plow through dental school and don't look back!;)
 
For Gavin, a quote from Newsweek 1998:
Dentists' odds of suicide "are 6.64 times greater than the rest of the working age population," writes researcher Steven Stack. "Dentists suffer from relatively low status within the medical profession and have strained relationships with their clients--few people enjoy going to the dentist." One study of Oregon dentists found that they had the highest suicide rate of any group investigated. A California study found that dentists were surpassed only by chemists. Of 22 occupations examined in Washington state, dentists had a suicide rate second only to that of sheepherders and wool workers.

There may be some fallacious stats in these comments gavin, but I would not trust everything the ADA has to say about dentisry either.

Nicolas Porter: Who isn't overly stressed and anxious at this point in our lives? <--- This is not about stress and anxiety. This person is suffering from a serious condition that may be triggered from stressful events. Ask anybody who has gone though the MD/DDS program and many will tell you the DDS was more difficult (stressful) and compact than the MD program. I believe that all we are referring to this individual is that he/she be careful when choosing a field such as dentistry. However, if the person feels that he/she can handle it, then it is their decision to make and not ours. All I was giving is my opinion, nothing more.
 
croco,

I'm not quoting ANYTHING the ADA says. In fact, the ADA has NEVER said anything regarding suicide because it simply isn't an issue!

The study you refer to in Washington used a whopping 11 dentists, and the study in Oregon used 8 dentists as its base! How can any relevant data be gained from such a minimal number?
Here is some more information:
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This is one of those dodgy things that "everybody knows." And not just the uninformed public, either--dentists themselves believe it. Since the 1960s dental journals have been carrying articles with headlines like "The Suicidal Professions." Dozens of studies have looked at suicide not only among dentists but among health-care workers in general. With few exceptions, research over the past 40 years has found that dentists (and doctors) take their own lives at a higher-than-average rate. But how much higher? To hear some tell it, you'd better not leave these guys in a room alone.

Dentists' odds of suicide "are 6.64 times greater than the rest of the working age population," writes researcher Steven Stack. "Dentists suffer from relatively low status within the medical profession and have strained relationships with their clients--few people enjoy going to the dentist." One study of Oregon dentists found that they had the highest suicide rate of any group investigated. A California study found that dentists were surpassed only by chemists and pharmacists. Of 22 occupations examined in Washington state, dentists had a suicide rate second only to that of sheepherders and wool workers.

But the sheer diversity of results has to make you suspicious. I mean, which is it--dentists, chemists and pharmacists, or sheepherders and wool workers? (What, the bleating gets to them?) And what about psychiatrists? One school of popular belief holds that they have the highest suicide rate.

Read the studies and you begin to see the problem. Suicide research is inherently a little flaky, in part because suicides are often concealed. Equally important from a statistical standpoint is the problem of small numbers: dentists represent only a small fraction of the total population, only a small fraction of them die in a given year, and only a small fraction of those that die are suicides. So you've got people drawing grand conclusions based on tiny samples. For example, I see where the Swedes think their male dentists have an elevated suicide rate. Number of male-dentist suicides on which this finding is based: 18.

But you aren't reading this column to hear me whine about the crummy data. You want the facts. Coming right up. All we need to do, for any occupation of interest, is (a) find a large, reasonably accurate source of mortality statistics, (b) compute suicides as a percentage of total deaths for said group, and (c) compare that percentage with some benchmark, like so:

PERCENTAGE OF DEATHS DUE TO SUICIDE
U.S. white male population 25 and older (1970): 1.5
U.S. white male dentists (1968-72): 2.0 (85 of 4,190)
U.S. white male medical doctors (1967-72): 3.0 (544 of 17,979)
U.S. white male population 25 and older (1990): 2.0
U.S. white male medical doctors (1984-95): 2.7 (379 of 13,790)

(Sources: Vital Statistics of the United States--1970, National Center for Health Statistics, Table 1-26, "Deaths from 281 Selected Causes, by Age, Race, and Sex: United States, 1970"; death certificates from 31 states, reported in "Mortality of Dentists, 1968 to 1972," Bureau of Economic Research and Statistics, Journal of the American Dental Association, January 1975, pp. 195ff; death reports collected by the American Medical Association, reported in "Suicide by Psychiatrists: A Study of Medical Specialists Among 18,730 Physician Deaths During a Five-Year Period, 1967-72," Rich et al., Journal of Clinical Psychiatry, August 1980, pp. 261ff.; Vital Statistics of the United States--1990, National Center for Health Statistics, Table 1-27, "Deaths from 282 Selected Causes, by 5-Year Age Groups, Race, and Sex: United States--1990"; National Occupational Mortality Surveillance database, reported in "Mortality Rates and Causes Among U.S. Physicians," Frank et al., American Journal of Preventive Medicine, Vol. 19, No. 3, 2000.

I know what you're thinking. Percentages! They're so primitive! What about the Poisson distribution, the chi-square test, the multivariate regression analysis? Not to mention the fact that I don't express suicides relative to 100,000 living population; that I haven't corrected for age distribution, socioeconomic status, etc; and that I couldn't find any current data for dentist mortality in the readily available literature. Sue me. We've got enough here to draw some basic conclusions.

Suicide among white male American dentists is higher than average but not as high as among white male American doctors. (Sorry to limit this to white men, but that's all the data I had to work with.) Don't fret, though. Dentists' death rates from other causes are lower, and on average they live several years longer than the general population. Ditto for doctors.

What's the most suicidal occupation? I won't venture an opinion for the world of work overall, but among health-care types it may well be shrinks. In a study of 18,730 physician deaths from 1967 to 1972 (men and women), psychiatrists accounted for 7 percent of the total but 12 percent of the 593 suicides (source: Rich et al., cited above).

Even more alarming is the rate of suicide among female doctors. A recent study found that 3.6 percent of white female doctors' deaths were suicides--higher than the rate for male doctors and many times the average for U.S. women (0.5 percent for 1990; source: Frank et al., cited above; Vital Statistics of the United States--1990). Women have entered medicine in huge numbers in recent decades, but progress has come at a price.

--CECIL ADAMS

SOURCES

Vital Statistics of the United States--1990, National Center for Health Statistics, Table 1-27, "Deaths from 282 Selected Causes, by 5-Year Age Groups, Race, and Sex: United States--1990."
 
You are probably correct in what you have stated. All I was trying to get across to some people is that becoming a dentist is not a walk in the park, and someone with a history of depression should be careful, that's all.
 
People please stop throwing out hearsay like its fact or something. I just love it when people claim that dentists have the highest suicide rate like it was a known fact when in fact they heard it from a friend who heard it from another friend.
 
.........don't worry about anything........I'm off my freakin' rocker half the time and I'm managing just fine in dental school.

I agree with the others that the Zoloft may take some time to work. I'd give it a chance.

Good luck fellow anxious one.
 
poetikfuzion

havent heard from you in awhile.
how r u doing?
what's your decision?
 
great post nicohlas porter!

you are absolutely right on the money. the fact is, like you said these problems will not go away. you just have to find ways to work around them.

4 yrs ago, when i found out that i was going to be a father, i thought tomyself, well there goes my hopes for dentistry. how could i possibly finish college with good grades and then be able to go to dental school when i have to take care of a kid?

this was the hardest thing to deal with, but i learned new and other ways to live mylife and i am proud to say that not only i am a great father, i actually performed and have become a much better person as a result of the whole situation.

bottomline, you can do it if you are detremined. just have to priorotize things and figure out how you'll do. it can all be done!
 
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