thank you for your kindness help.Then I have a further question.About how many years before a graduate Pharm.D. student in America become a specialist of phamacotherapy ? AND what is the pathway to become a specialist of pharmacotherapy? Fogive my poor english,sometimes I just can't express my ideals in appropriate words.If you can correct some grammar errors in my words,I also appreciate your help.
Thank you for your time on my ignorance problems.Here are the eligibility requirements for BCPS according to BPS' website (which PharmD2MD posted)...it even mentions graduates of pharmacy schools outside the US:
By the way, your english writing skills are a lot better than you think! Good luck
,But for me,I'm a little fortunate. I chosed a manager of the department of pharmacy in WEST CHINA hospital as my preceptor. AND he feels that patient-centered pharmacy care is the trend of future pharmacy development.He gives me a great help with regard to directly accessing to patients and he allows me to designate my Pharm.D.curriculum through 3-year's learning by myself freely. He is in fact more a friend than a preceptor for me. He spares no efffort to help me in the way of becoming a Qulified Phamacotherapy specialist.
wow...someone is trying hard to be the next moderator around here...Well, you seem very determined to get a great pharmacy education lakelet! And it sounds like you have a very supportive preceptor...that's great.
As far as some of the common textbooks used in US pharmacy schools, here are some of the standards:
Pharmacotherapy: A Pathophysiologic Approach: By DiPiro, Talbert, Yee, et al. This is a very thorough book that goes into disease state management and is used in Therapeutics & Pathophysiology classes.
Applied Therapeutics: The Clinical Use of Drugs By Koda-Kimble, Young, Kradjan, et al. Also a gold standard for studying drug therapy...and the style's a little different compared to DiPiro...it has a lot of case-based scenarios. Both of these books have smaller handbook versions.
Goodman & Gilman's The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics By Brunton, Lazo, Parker
Pharmacotherapy Principles & Practice By Chisolm-Burns, Wells, Schwinghammer, et al.
These are all great places to start for clinical pharmacy if you can get a copy! Then of course there are plenty of other resources for specific areas such as pharmaceutics, kinetics, dynamics, etc.
So you're learning at a 5,000 bed hospital? Wow! The school I graduated from now offers a 3-week study abroad summer program to China and Japan. I wish they had offered this when I was going to school! Here is their program schedule; I thought you'd be interested in seeing the cross-cultural program offered on our end
Well, you seem very determined to get a great pharmacy education lakelet! And it sounds like you have a very supportive preceptor...that's great.
As far as some of the common textbooks used in US pharmacy schools, here are some of the standards:
Pharmacotherapy: A Pathophysiologic Approach: By DiPiro, Talbert, Yee, et al. This is a very thorough book that goes into disease state management and is used in Therapeutics & Pathophysiology classes.
Applied Therapeutics: The Clinical Use of Drugs By Koda-Kimble, Young, Kradjan, et al. Also a gold standard for studying drug therapy...and the style's a little different compared to DiPiro...it has a lot of case-based scenarios. Both of these books have smaller handbook versions.
Goodman & Gilman's The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics By Brunton, Lazo, Parker
Pharmacotherapy Principles & Practice By Chisolm-Burns, Wells, Schwinghammer, et al.
These are all great places to start for clinical pharmacy if you can get a copy! Then of course there are plenty of other resources for specific areas such as pharmaceutics, kinetics, dynamics, etc.
So you're learning at a 5,000 bed hospital? Wow! The school I graduated from now offers a 3-week study abroad summer program to China and Japan. I wish they had offered this when I was going to school! Here is their program schedule; I thought you'd be interested in seeing the cross-cultural program offered on our end
,Thank you,Yet I reading speed of English is not so fast,so forgive my dalayed reply!Well, you seem very determined to get a great pharmacy education lakelet! And it sounds like you have a very supportive preceptor...that's great.
As far as some of the common textbooks used in US pharmacy schools, here are some of the standards:
Pharmacotherapy: A Pathophysiologic Approach: By DiPiro, Talbert, Yee, et al. This is a very thorough book that goes into disease state management and is used in Therapeutics & Pathophysiology classes.
Applied Therapeutics: The Clinical Use of Drugs By Koda-Kimble, Young, Kradjan, et al. Also a gold standard for studying drug therapy...and the style's a little different compared to DiPiro...it has a lot of case-based scenarios. Both of these books have smaller handbook versions.
Goodman & Gilman's The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics By Brunton, Lazo, Parker
Pharmacotherapy Principles & Practice By Chisolm-Burns, Wells, Schwinghammer, et al.
These are all great places to start for clinical pharmacy if you can get a copy! Then of course there are plenty of other resources for specific areas such as pharmaceutics, kinetics, dynamics, etc.
So you're learning at a 5,000 bed hospital? Wow! The school I graduated from now offers a 3-week study abroad summer program to China and Japan. I wish they had offered this when I was going to school! Here is their program schedule; I thought you'd be interested in seeing the cross-cultural program offered on our end
,spirivasunrise,you are really great help to me.Thank you .
I can't understand the word "I'm a Cject wannabe" anybody who can explain it to me. thank you.
I'm a 5th year Pharm.D. student from St. John's University in New York. I'm doing my clerkship now at New York Presbyterian Hospital which is ranked #6 this year on America's Best Hospitals 2007 by U.S. News & World Report and #3 in 2006. Hello Lakelet,
Welcome to the PharmD. forums.
Anyway, I have been to China in 2003 and from what I can see the role of pharmacists there are quite similar to the role of pharmacists in the U.S. maybe 15-20 years ago. Pharmacists just dispense as if they are robotic, there is no thinking involved, just counting.
Pharmacotherapy in the U.S. is still a relatively new concept. Pharmacists here used to just dispensed exactly what the physician ordered, no questions asked. Later on, new laws were passed that declared pharmacists be partially liable for medication errors. That's when the use of pharmacotherapy became more integral in the role of pharmacy.
Good luck in your Pharm.D. program!
,it seems that it a little difficult to become a pharmacotherapy specialist .
But I'll try mybest to fullfill my dream. thank you
by the way, could you explain how many pharmacy technicians,staff pharmacists, and clinical pharmacy specialists in your hospital. And what are their daily work, respectively.
Well, I'm not sure of the most recent numbers but in 2006...
85 Staff Pharmacists - Review physician orders to make sure they are appropriate, check for potential drug-drug interactions, compounding of special I.V., oral or topical medications. Checking the work of technicians before the drugs are dispensed.
62 Support Staff (Technicians + Interns) - the technicians fill the medication carts, manage inventory, "batching" of I.V.'s and other non-clinical duties.
The interns usually do both jobs of a technician and pharmacist, although interns cannot make any clinical decisions without double checking with the staff pharmacist first. Interns also go on rounds each morning with a clinical pharmacist, pharmacy resident and the rest of the medical team.
11 Clinical Pharmacists (each one in their own specialty e.g. oncology, internal medicine, infectious diesease, geriatrics etc.) - These pharmacists usually do not dispense although they have to be "on-call" in case they need to cover for a staff pharmacist. They go on rounds each morning with a medical team and basically reviews each patient's medication therapy while providing recommendations to the physicians/nurses. The clinical pharmacists also have to teach the pharmacy students that come through the hospital as part of their daily job. Each clinical pharmacist also helps to decide which drugs go on the hospital formulary for their specific specialty.
Those are just some very general duties that I can think of at the moment. Hope that answers your question.
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Well, I'm not sure of the most recent numbers but in 2006...
85 Staff Pharmacists - Review physician orders to make sure they are appropriate, check for potential drug-drug interactions, compounding of special I.V., oral or topical medications. Checking the work of technicians before the drugs are dispensed.
62 Support Staff (Technicians + Interns) - the technicians fill the medication carts, manage inventory, "batching" of I.V.'s and other non-clinical duties.
The interns usually do both jobs of a technician and pharmacist, although interns cannot make any clinical decisions without double checking with the staff pharmacist first. Interns also go on rounds each morning with a clinical pharmacist, pharmacy resident and the rest of the medical team.
11 Clinical Pharmacists (each one in their own specialty e.g. oncology, internal medicine, infectious diesease, geriatrics etc.) - These pharmacists usually do not dispense although they have to be "on-call" in case they need to cover for a staff pharmacist. They go on rounds each morning with a medical team and basically reviews each patient's medication therapy while providing recommendations to the physicians/nurses. The clinical pharmacists also have to teach the pharmacy students that come through the hospital as part of their daily job. Each clinical pharmacist also helps to decide which drugs go on the hospital formulary for their specific specialty.
Those are just some very general duties that I can think of at the moment. Hope that answers your question.
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I still hate this class. The textbook is nice though. Unfortunately I don't remember every single textbook for every single class that I've took. It also wouldn't be very helpful for you, if I just gave you a list of textbooks to read because certain classes have to be taken in a certain order. For example, you would have to know your anatomy and physiology before you can go on to pathology. In addition, some classes such as U.S. Pharmacy Law and U.S. Public Health don't really apply to the area you would be practicing. However, having said that, I'll try my best to list the ones that are most pertinent to any pharmacy student regardless of location.
Principles of Anatomy and Physiology (Hardcover)
by Gerard J. Tortora (Author), Bryan H. Derrickson (Author) This book is very good for a comprehensive introduction about the human body. I took this class during my 3rd year.
Medical Microbiology: with STUDENT CONSULT Access (Medical Microbiology) (Paperback)
by Patrick R. Murray (Author), Michael A. Pfaller (Author), Ken S. Rosenthal (Author), Patrick R. Murray (Author), Ken S. Rosenthal (Author), Michael A. Pfaller (Author)This class was fairly hard, mostly because its pure memorization of all the different microorganisms and their classification.
The Immune System (Paperback)
by Peter Parham (Author)I really liked this book, mainly because it contains many helpful figures that explain the mechanisms of the immune system. Without those figures, it would be very hard to understand how it works, in my opinion.
Rubin's Pathology: Clinicopathologic Foundations of Medicine 5th Edition (Hardcover)
by Raphael Rubin (Editor), David S Strayer (Editor)This book is very very very detailed. As a pharmacist you probably will only use 40% of this book since the rest deals with diseases that have no current pharmaceutical therapy.
Pharmaceutical Calculations (PHARMACEUTICAL CALCULATIONS) (Hardcover)
by Howard C Ansel (Author), Mitchell J Stoklosa (Author)Basic calculations that a pharmacist will need on a daily basis.
Basic & Clinical Pharmacology (Basic and Clinical Pharmacology) (Paperback)
by Bertram G. Katzung (Author) This book provides a very "simplified" explanation of pharmacology. Note that there are other more comprehensive textbooks on pharmacology however I used this during school and found this to be very helpful.
As for therapeutics, SprivaSunrise provided links already above. Those are the same texts I've used.
I would recommend studying from your school's required textbooks and your professor's notes FIRST. If you don't understand something or need more clarification you may use the books above. Each university has their own specific curriculum...
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Thanks for your time on my qustion and your advice.You said that maybe I would start from my schools required textboks. Maybe what you said is right for Pharm.D students in America. But in China,this is not the case.
The newly Pharm.D program in China was initiated since 2005. As far as I know, Most of Chinas pharmacy education specialists have no clear concept about What is Pharm.D. Maybe very few of them has recognized the difference between Ph.D and Pharm.D in American.But due to their incompentent knowledge and practical experince about the domain of directly patient-centred care, they still advocate that a Pharm..D. is mostly a researcher majoring in Clinical pharmacology or Clinical pharmcokinetics or pharmacoecnomics or pharmacy administration , paying little attention on guiding the Pharm.D students to learn the knowledge and experince needed in the domain of directly patient-centred care.
So, the required textbooks for Pharm.D students in my school are textbooks in specialty of pharmacokinetics , phamacoecnomics and evidenced-based medicine, not inclouding textbooks about anatomy, physiology, pathology and therapeutics.Compared with required textbooks for Pharm.D in America, mine is very few.
The purpose of my schools Pharm.D program is to cultivate more a researcher than a qulified phamacist.But,I think this is not true for Pharm..D. education.I take for granted that a Pharm. D. should be firstly a qualified pharmacist who can deliver directly care to the patient, and then may be a researcher in phamacoecnomics or other specialties.I wonder if you agree with my opinion?
If I followed the current education style for Pharm.D. students in China,my dream of becoming a pharmacotherapist would never come true.So I eagerly want to designate my own curriculum during my 3-year study through the internet knowing what courses American Pharm.D students take and what are the most popular texebooks for Pharm.D student.
By the way, my preceptor is very open-minded to allowes me to designate my own curriculum
during my 3-years Pharm.D program.
Well I really think that a Pharm.D. has a choice whether to go into research or clinical. A PharmD is supposed to provide you with an adequate background of basics so that you can go into any field related to pharmacy, whether research oriented or clinical.
By the way, American PharmD students must take Pharmacokinetics, Pharmacoeconomics and Evidence-based medicine classes too. I forgot to mention them earlier.
I have to go on rounds in one hour so I'll post more later this afternoon! Cheers!
,Indeed，Ｉ　have　learned　anatomy, physiology　during my pharmacy B.S. 　education。
