damn 222. you are not going to match into anything. quit and go to nursing school
Its a bell curve for a reason. People from both ends of the curve match in every specialty. Put your head down and work hard and you'll be fine.
It's legitimately concerning OP thinks his life is ruined after a less than expected step 1 score.
It's legitimately concerning OP thinks his life is ruined after a less than expected step 1 score.
If your interpretation of OPs post led you to believe he is simply "upset" by the score, then we have different interpretations. The title of the thread alone indicates more than just being upset.How is it concerning that someone who has been dreaming about entering a field just got a huge setback on the way there and is now upset by it...? You're right that's so insane...
Because OPs reaction is rather irrational. Also, based on his UWorld performance he should've known where he stood. If he was that concerned about his score and matching ENT he should've delayed. And as someone else mentioned in this thread, attending med school with 0 interest in anything other than one of the most competitive specialties isn't a very bright decision.How is it concerning that someone who has been dreaming about entering a field just got a huge setback on the way there and is now upset by it...? You're right that's so insane...
How is it concerning that someone who has been dreaming about entering a field just got a huge setback on the way there and is now upset by it...? You're right that's so insane...
Yeah, on a scale of 0-10, with zero being "life not at all affected" and ten being "worst possible life catastrophe imaginable," this gets up to maybe a 4 or 5. But then again, to me, a bad day at work means that somebody young and healthy who came in walky-talky unexpectedly died.It seemed insane since, assuming a traditional curriculum, that someone so melodramatic was now going to be the student doctor to a patient. Furthermore, assuming that he/she is not a 18 yr old, he/she is a grown adult lamenting having "failed the field" with life being over. Can't forget that this person literally made a account JUST to declare his woes.
Kids should be coddled, adults, not so much.
Banhammer coming in 3...2...
A 222. Wanted to do ENT, I'll be lucky get my MD and match anything now. Actually I don't even deserve to match. I really did give this is my all, I really did. Completed all of Uworld (73% percentile), multiple times I did Pathoma, multiple times I did Sketchy, multiple times I did FA. And for what? A failure. That's all I am in life, a failure. I wish I could give you guys advice on how to study for Step, but you don't want mine. I was a very strong applicant to medical school in every regard, but my low 30s MCAT held me back then. I had to explain myself on every interview. Luckily one good school gave me a chance. In retrospect they shouldn't have. I disgraced my med school, my family, and most of all myself.
I did well the first two years. I have 5 first author publications (real publications, not that case report crap), 7 poster/oral presentations. All that time I spent, all for nothing. Well I take that back, at least I hope it helps the field, the field I'm never going to be a part of. And that's the hardest part, I never will be a part of the field because I just can't take a freaking standardized test to save my life. The best part is that I have an oral presentation on my research at a meeting coming up in a couple of months. I have to figure out how to pull myself together to give this talk to a bunch of academic ENTs, because deep down inside I just feel embarrassed now. Just so embarrassed. I'm even embarrassed to talk to my mentor anymore. The supportive 4th years and residents told me that you aren't your score, but God knows that's just how I (and every residency program) am going to see myself for the next two years. It was the same way with my MCAT score (everything else was good, actually great...but that score defined me and now this score defines me). I purposely never met with my program director here to show interest just in case this happened, and well, it happened.
If I could just give any advice to any 1st or 2nd years reading this (especially if you struggled with standardized tests like I have my whole life), try your hardest. The test is difficult especially if you are stupid like me or aren't a good test taker like me. You don't want to be as broken apart as I am right now. I'm going to keep trying hard on my rotations to honor them and keep writing papers, but I know in my heart that I just ruined my life, plain and simple.
Hey guys, thank you, I was incredibly emotional last night when I posted.
No, I did study for Step as best I could. Research did not get in the way as evidenced by the hours I spent on the proven resources. I am in the top 20% of my class.
I did not go out much the first two years because I was dedicated. I used my spare time to do research. In retrospect I do wish I had more fun, but it's ok we can't fix the past.
UWORLD is a learning tool and at this point it doesn't matter what the correlation was. I think it was high 230s, but again, it doesn't matter.
If there is one thing that I have learned is that your life can change in an instant. I did this to myself and I have to live with the consequences of it. I'm on rotations now so I have to concentrate and work hard. I have already dug a grave for myself, now I have to see my work ethic (3rd year grades and publications) can somehow get me out of it.
Thank you and good luck!
I realize this came off dramatic. But I literally gave hundreds of hours the end of 1st year, summer, and 2nd year to publishing manuscripts. I contributed a lot to the field because I really enjoyed it. It's all gone now, it's hard to explain. I am having a hard time accepting that. I failed myself, I failed the field, I just failed. I want to be mad at myself, but I know I tried. It's just as the poster above me just said, I have to accept the fact that I am genetically stupid. Hard work goes a long way but it doesn't cure stupidity.
How is it concerning that someone who has been dreaming about entering a field just got a huge setback on the way there and is now upset by it...? You're right that's so insane...
A 222. Wanted to do ENT, I'll be lucky get my MD and match anything now. Actually I don't even deserve to match. I really did give this is my all, I really did. Completed all of Uworld (73% percentile), multiple times I did Pathoma, multiple times I did Sketchy, multiple times I did FA. And for what? A failure. That's all I am in life, a failure. I wish I could give you guys advice on how to study for Step, but you don't want mine. I was a very strong applicant to medical school in every regard, but my low 30s MCAT held me back then. I had to explain myself on every interview. Luckily one good school gave me a chance. In retrospect they shouldn't have. I disgraced my med school, my family, and most of all myself.
N=7 in real peoples (plus however many testemonials I've come across on SDN and Reddit) but if you do UWorld blocks like actual step blocks and apply the % correct (NOT percentile) to the formulas/graphs on teh interwebz the correlation between UWorld performance and actual Step score is pretty solid. Hence why OP shouldn't be surprised by his/her actual score.But UWorld 230+ correlates to 210+ on Step 1 so OP actually overachieved.
Wow OP.A 222. Wanted to do ENT, I'll be lucky get my MD and match anything now. Actually I don't even deserve to match. I really did give this is my all, I really did. Completed all of Uworld (73% percentile), multiple times I did Pathoma, multiple times I did Sketchy, multiple times I did FA. And for what? A failure. That's all I am in life, a failure. I wish I could give you guys advice on how to study for Step, but you don't want mine. I was a very strong applicant to medical school in every regard, but my low 30s MCAT held me back then. I had to explain myself on every interview. Luckily one good school gave me a chance. In retrospect they shouldn't have. I disgraced my med school, my family, and most of all myself.
I did well the first two years. I have 5 first author publications (real publications, not that case report crap), 7 poster/oral presentations. All that time I spent, all for nothing. Well I take that back, at least I hope it helps the field, the field I'm never going to be a part of. And that's the hardest part, I never will be a part of the field because I just can't take a freaking standardized test to save my life. The best part is that I have an oral presentation on my research at a meeting coming up in a couple of months. I have to figure out how to pull myself together to give this talk to a bunch of academic ENTs, because deep down inside I just feel embarrassed now. Just so embarrassed. I'm even embarrassed to talk to my mentor anymore. The supportive 4th years and residents told me that you aren't your score, but God knows that's just how I (and every residency program) am going to see myself for the next two years. It was the same way with my MCAT score (everything else was good, actually great...but that score defined me and now this score defines me). I purposely never met with my program director here to show interest just in case this happened, and well, it happened.
If I could just give any advice to any 1st or 2nd years reading this (especially if you struggled with standardized tests like I have my whole life), try your hardest. The test is difficult especially if you are stupid like me or aren't a good test taker like me. You don't want to be as broken apart as I am right now. I'm going to keep trying hard on my rotations to honor them and keep writing papers, but I know in my heart that I just ruined my life, plain and simple.
You don't even know whether you like ENT more than everything else. As you go through third year keep and open mind and you may be surprised at what you find.
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I realize this came off dramatic. But I literally gave hundreds of hours the end of 1st year, summer, and 2nd year to publishing manuscripts. I contributed a lot to the field because I really enjoyed it. It's all gone now, it's hard to explain. I am having a hard time accepting that. I failed myself, I failed the field, I just failed. I want to be mad at myself, but I know I tried. It's just as the poster above me just said, I have to accept the fact that I am genetically stupid. Hard work goes a long way but it doesn't cure stupidity.
You know there is more to an applicant than just a board score and by no means is a 222 bad. Personally speaking, when I am reviewing applications for residency and fellowship positions I don't even pay attention to the numerical board score. I look to see did this person pass on the first time and did they improve their score from step 1 -> step 2 -> step 3. It is true that individual programs may have a score cut off that they use to filter out certain applications but at the end of the day I just want to know that you are going to pass your board exam at the end of your residency or fellowship. Having scores that are higher and higher shows me that you continue to learn and continue to improve and don't get a good step score and then regress thinking you are set. I find the extracurricular activities to be more telling about a person. Everyone studies and everyone takes tests but not everyone puts in the time away from all of that to be pro-active in their desired field.
Lets say that I have 2 applications in front of me. Applicant A went to a respectable medical school and scored a 240 on step 1 but did little to no extracurriculars for the field he is applying to and has LoR that say he was smart and worked hard as a medical student. Applicant B went to a similar medical school and scored a 215 on his step 1 but went to 2 national conference's and presented at one, was involved in multiple manuscript creations and has LoR that time and time again state that this person has a strong desire for a particular field and would make a great resident/fellow. I am interviewing applicant B every time.
Keep your head up, continue to learn, DO better on your next step exam, continue to do things in your desired field.
215 would not make the pd desk unless you have connections
Not true. Probably not for a premier university program or a highly competitive residency but there are a ton of programs that WILL look at you with that score IF you have other things on your resume. Also I was using that as a hypothetical example to illustrate a point.
Not true. Probably not for a premier university program or a highly competitive residency but there are a ton of programs that WILL look at you with that score IF you have other things on your resume. Also I was using that as a hypothetical example to illustrate a point.
Not true. Probably not for a premier university program or a highly competitive residency but there are a ton of programs that WILL look at you with that score IF you have other things on your resume. Also I was using that as a hypothetical example to illustrate a point.
You dont consider ENT a highly competitive residency?
Then OK. I'm sure OP will get interviews from at least 50FM programs and 50Psych programs.
When did I say anything about ENT? I am not in ENT. I am simply telling this kid his life is not over. Calm down people.
OP wants to do ent. That's the entire premise of the thread.
This thread is fatalistic. I know someone who matched derm recently with low 220's/230's step 1/step 2, and certainly not with the impressive research involvement and productivity as you have.
For what it's worth, an ENT attending told me she wished went into anesthesia, most likely for lifestyle reasons.
While there is life, there is hope.
Median MGMA income data for gas is higher than for ENT though.Not sure which ENT has a difficult life! Especially when you easily make double of Anesthesia.
Median MGMA income data for gas is higher than for ENT though.
I guess all the derm, ortho, & plastics gunners should read this.
We have a major problem in medicine now with the large majority of second generation doctors, nearly all of whom want to do surgical sub-specialties in major cities touching the pacific or Atlantic oceans. These people, by and large, have never earned a dollar prior to med school and have absolutely no perspective.
A 222. Wanted to do ENT, I'll be lucky get my MD and match anything now. Actually I don't even deserve to match. I really did give this is my all, I really did. Completed all of Uworld (73% percentile), multiple times I did Pathoma, multiple times I did Sketchy, multiple times I did FA. And for what? A failure. That's all I am in life, a failure. I wish I could give you guys advice on how to study for Step, but you don't want mine. I was a very strong applicant to medical school in every regard, but my low 30s MCAT held me back then. I had to explain myself on every interview. Luckily one good school gave me a chance. In retrospect they shouldn't have. I disgraced my med school, my family, and most of all myself.
I did well the first two years. I have 5 first author publications (real publications, not that case report crap), 7 poster/oral presentations. All that time I spent, all for nothing. Well I take that back, at least I hope it helps the field, the field I'm never going to be a part of. And that's the hardest part, I never will be a part of the field because I just can't take a freaking standardized test to save my life. The best part is that I have an oral presentation on my research at a meeting coming up in a couple of months. I have to figure out how to pull myself together to give this talk to a bunch of academic ENTs, because deep down inside I just feel embarrassed now. Just so embarrassed. I'm even embarrassed to talk to my mentor anymore. The supportive 4th years and residents told me that you aren't your score, but God knows that's just how I (and every residency program) am going to see myself for the next two years. It was the same way with my MCAT score (everything else was good, actually great...but that score defined me and now this score defines me). I purposely never met with my program director here to show interest just in case this happened, and well, it happened.
If I could just give any advice to any 1st or 2nd years reading this (especially if you struggled with standardized tests like I have my whole life), try your hardest. The test is difficult especially if you are stupid like me or aren't a good test taker like me. You don't want to be as broken apart as I am right now. I'm going to keep trying hard on my rotations to honor them and keep writing papers, but I know in my heart that I just ruined my life, plain and simple.
What does this mean?
How is that a major problem?
Who cares what they want to do, where they want to work, or if they're willing to accept lower income for a sunshine tax?
BTW, a good portion of the population lives in cities near the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. I'm biased though, I'm not a big fan of the fly over states.