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Kansas University Neurology Program (Kansas City):

DISCLAIMER: This is just my opinion of the program based on a two day interview. Feel free to add or dispute comments made on here.

SYNOPSIS: Great place to train. Strong and diverse inpatient experience. One of the best neuromuscular groups in the country. This program is a stable middle sized program in the process of growing. If you love super fast internet, then you may want to give it extra consideration. However, if you have your heart set on neuro-oncology, epilepsy, or a city free of snow, then you may want to look elsewhere.

QUICK POINTS:

Positives:
- Kansas City has/will have Google gigabit internet
- Residents are happy, get along great, and a laid back group
- Program is hospital heavy and clinic light (thought of as a negative by some)
- Program prepares you very well for stroke
- Kansas City is a great city with low (comparatively) cost of living
- Vascular, sleep, movement disorder, and neurophys fellowships available
- Absolutely no malignant staff according to the residents
- Diverse training, residents said they feel well prepared for anything
- Residents have the power to get things changed (and have many times)
- Mature EMR at the hospital
- Neurology clinic in a separate building on the main campus
- Growing at a crazy rate (so fast that staff is having space issues)

Neutral:
- Three hospital sites to drive between, however a very different learning experience at each
- Neuromuscular rules this place

Negatives:
- Epilepsy is still very small
- Absolutely NO neuro-oncology
- No neurology interventionist (a couple radiologists who do it regularly though)
- Cafeteria not great, however a new 24 hour kiosk was just added
- Small book allowance ($250)
- PGY 1s spend 6 months at a site that's an hour away
- Still need 2-3 general neurologist added to the staff (6 month waiting list to see neurology)

LOCATION: About 2 million in the metropolitan area with a mixed economic base. Affordable housing close to the hospital and farther away. Some residents lived blocks away others outside the city with only a 20 minute commute. Everyone described Kansas City as a great place to live and a few said that it's got all the big city feel without all the big city hassle.

TRAINING: The KU neurology residency seems like an incredible place to train. Each faculty member and resident stated that the program provides a diverse training experience. One resident stated that he is not just comfortable with the bread and butter but has seen a handful of all the zebras as well. The residency has been continuously fully accredited since the 1950s and is planning on trying to expand to a 24 resident complement by next year (6 per year). They have 2 pediatric neurology fellows a year and have fellowships in clinical neurophysiology, vascular, neuromuscular, and sleep. The training is across 6 different hospitals. While the residents admit that this can be a little bit of a pain, they have actually requested that each of these sites remain a part of the rotation schedule due to the different patient population that is seen at each one. Each site provides a different learning experience. They now have nearly 30 faculty members. Dr. Barohn, the program chairman, has built an incredible program. When he started as chairman, the program had only 4-5 full-time staff. Now they have no place to even put people - seems like a good problem to have. And they are still actively recruiting.

STRUCTURE:
PGY1 - Categorical year split 6 months at Topeka VA on the hospitalist service. No call at this time, however the site is an hour drive away. And 6 months a UKMC on specialty services (ICU, rheumatology, GI, etc).
PGY2 - 8 months neurology inpatient, 3 months neurology clinic, 1 month pathology/radiology.
PGY3 - 3 months consults, 1 month each of VA, NICU, neuromuscular, epilepsy, & 3 months electives.
PGY4 - 3 months child neurology, 2 months consults, 1 month each NICU and psych, and 5 months electives.

Electives:
Specialty clinic / service
MS, movement disorders
Neuro-ophthalmology
Sleep disorders
EMG
EEG
Movement disorders
Subspecialty clinics (as arranged by the resident)
Private practice neurology
Research
Faculty mentor
Research plan and product

KU Training Summary:
Clinical adult neurology - 22 months (including 2 months of NICU)
Child neurology - 3 months
Neuropathology/neuroradiology - 1 month
Psychiatry - 1 month
Neuromuscular and Epilepsy (1 month each)
Elective - 7 months

Call:
KUMC Frequency:
PG2 4-5 times per month
PG3 4 times per month
PG4 3 times per month
All call at the University of Kansas Hospital is in-house
KCVAMC home call - every other week
TMC home call - every third weekend from 0800-1700
CMH home call every third night

Longitudinal Clinics:
½ Day each week for all three years
Faculty supervision changes for each level
Typical work load
PGY2: (first six months) 1 new, 2 returns
PGY3 and 4: 2 new, 3 follow ups
KU Hospital patients assigned to clinics
Referrals from KUMC and outside clinicians

SUPPORT: The residents could not speak highly enough about Dr. Dubinsky the current program director. When residents are concerned about something, Dr. Dubinsky handles it straight away or gives the residents a straight and honest answer about why the change can't be made. The residents love this and feel very supported by the program. However, the neurology program seems to get overlooked by the hospital - no call rooms were added to the newest addition for neurology, also currently they have so much staff that space has become an issue at the clinic. However this is supposedly changing as the hospital has noticed the extreme growth in the neuroscience department and the huge demand for neurology services.

RESEARCH: The research is there if you want it. Requirements for the residency program are very light however if you seek it out, the opportunities seem endless. The Hoglund brain imaging center houses a 9T MRI for research. Clinical research areas are strong in neuromuscular, movement disorders, neurobehavioral, MS, HA, neuroepidemiology, and TBI. Basic science research includes stroke recovery, mitochondrial function in neurodegeneration, spinal cord injury, motor control physiology, MR of peripheral nerves, and MEG. Dr. Barohn brought in a $20 million grant for Clinical and Translational studies and other staff brought in a $6.2 million grand for the Alzheimer's Disease Center.

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This is a really well-written review, but it's a few years old. Updates to the KU Neurology Program for March 2017:

(POSITIVES SECTION UPDATE):
- KU Medical Center has Google gigabit internet.
- Residents are still happy, get along great, and a laid back group. -- yay!
- Program is inpatient heavy (front-loaded), but definitely making more of an effort to be balanced with clinic (through night float, more elective time now that we have more residents every year)
- Vascular, sleep, movement disorders, neuromuscular, neurophysiology, neurocritical care, MS available; developing an epilepsy fellowship for 2018.
- Epic EMR inpatient and outpatient
- Space is better, moving to a whole new neurology building across the street, separate neurology office building, dedicated campus (nearby) for dementia, sleep clinics.

(NEUTRAL SECTION UPDATE):
- KCVA, Leavenworth VAMC, KU, Children's Mercy, and Truman Medical Center are the main hospitals; however there is not that much driving in between them. We have lectures every morning at the KU campus and then drive to the individual hospital where we are for the month.
- Neuromuscular will always rule this place given the strength of our research in this area (our chairman is a Neuromuscular physician and Vice Chancellor for Research in the hospital). However, our faculty in other specialities are strong teachers and research in all areas is encouraged/supported.

(NEGATIVE SECTION UPDATE):
- Epilepsy is growing, including a fellowship in 2018.
- We have a neurology interventionist, Dr. Michael Abraham.
- Book allowance ($300)
- PGY 1s do spend more time at the KCVA, but this is a 15 minute drive away.
- We are adding more neurology staff every year, waiting time for general neurology is generally less than one month; can be longer for sub-specialities.

(STRUCTURE SECTION UPDATE):
PGY1 - Categorical year has more time spent at the KCVA (15 minutes away), and maybe sometime at the Leavenworth VA (30 minutes away), but not the Topeka VA (1 hour away). There is also a mix of general medicine and specialty KU electives.
PGY2 - 7-8 months neurology inpatient, 2 night float blocks x 2 weeks with the other two weeks in clinic, 1-2 months elective time.
PGY3 - 3-4 months inpatient, 1 month each of VA, NICU & 3-4 months electives.
PGY4 - 3 months child neurology, 2 months consults, 1 month each NICU and psych, and 3-4 months electives.

(ELECTIVES UPDATE):
Neuro-ophthalmology
Neuro-oncology
Epilepsy/EEG
Neuromuscular/EMG
Behavioral Neurology/Dementia
Multiple Sclerosis
Movement Disorder/Botox
Sleep Medicine
Research month (1 month allowed during training)
Evidence based medicine/Epidemiology
Rehab medicine
Neuro-intervention
Ambulatory (design your own ambulatory month)
You will have total of two weeks of the following in your residency, unless you take vacation during this time.
Neuro-radiology
Pathology
And if you would like to spend additional months on the following services, you may as an elective.
Neuro ICU
Stroke
Consults
Wards/Wards senior

(CALL UPDATE):
KUMC Frequency:
PGY2 have 2 night float blocks (7pm-7am, 2-weeks each) for the year.
PGY3s have 1 night float block
PGY4s typically do not have a night float block.

KU (in-house call): When on a KU inpatient service, short call (4:30pm-7pm) will happen 1-2 times per week, and then 1-2 weekends per month of 7am-7pm
When on outpatient service or off-campus elective, no short calls but will have 2 weekend days (either 7a-7p or a Sunday 24-hour)
KCVA : 3 residents on each month, split home call evenly. Not in the KU call pool.
Truman : Weekend call, every other weekend (round and then home call). Not in KU call pool.
Children's Mercy Hospital : Home call typically every 4-5 nights, one weekend per month. Not in KU call pool.
Leavenworth VA: No Leavenworth call. Still in KU call pool.

Longitudinal Clinics (UNCHANGED):
½ Day each week for all three years
Faculty supervision changes for each level
Typical work load
PGY2: (first six months) 1 new, 2 returns
PGY3 and 4: 2 new, 3 follow ups
KU Hospital patients assigned to clinics
Referrals from KUMC and outside clinicians

(SUPPORT/RESEARCH SECTIONS - UNCHANGED)
SUPPORT: The residents could not speak highly enough about Dr. Dubinsky the current program director. When residents are concerned about something, Dr. Dubinsky handles it straight away or gives the residents a straight and honest answer about why the change can't be made. The residents love this and feel very supported by the program. However, the neurology program seems to get overlooked by the hospital - no call rooms were added to the newest addition for neurology, also currently they have so much staff that space has become an issue at the clinic. However this is supposedly changing as the hospital has noticed the extreme growth in the neuroscience department and the huge demand for neurology services.

RESEARCH: The research is there if you want it. Requirements for the residency program are very light however if you seek it out, the opportunities seem endless. The Hoglund brain imaging center houses a 9T MRI for research. Clinical research areas are strong in neuromuscular, movement disorders, neurobehavioral, MS, HA, neuroepidemiology, and TBI. Basic science research includes stroke recovery, mitochondrial function in neurodegeneration, spinal cord injury, motor control physiology, MR of peripheral nerves, and MEG. Dr. Barohn brought in a $20 million grant for Clinical and Translational studies and other staff brought in a $6.2 million grand for the Alzheimer's Disease Center



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Kansas University Neurology Program (Kansas City):

DISCLAIMER: This is just my opinion of the program based on a two day interview. Feel free to add or dispute comments made on here.

SYNOPSIS: Great place to train. Strong and diverse inpatient experience. One of the best neuromuscular groups in the country. This program is a stable middle sized program in the process of growing. If you love super fast internet, then you may want to give it extra consideration. However, if you have your heart set on neuro-oncology, epilepsy, or a city free of snow, then you may want to look elsewhere.

QUICK POINTS:

Positives:
- Kansas City has/will have Google gigabit internet
- Residents are happy, get along great, and a laid back group
- Program is hospital heavy and clinic light (thought of as a negative by some)
- Program prepares you very well for stroke
- Kansas City is a great city with low (comparatively) cost of living
- Vascular, sleep, movement disorder, and neurophys fellowships available
- Absolutely no malignant staff according to the residents
- Diverse training, residents said they feel well prepared for anything
- Residents have the power to get things changed (and have many times)
- Mature EMR at the hospital
- Neurology clinic in a separate building on the main campus
- Growing at a crazy rate (so fast that staff is having space issues)

Neutral:
- Three hospital sites to drive between, however a very different learning experience at each
- Neuromuscular rules this place

Negatives:
- Epilepsy is still very small
- Absolutely NO neuro-oncology
- No neurology interventionist (a couple radiologists who do it regularly though)
- Cafeteria not great, however a new 24 hour kiosk was just added
- Small book allowance ($250)
- PGY 1s spend 6 months at a site that's an hour away
- Still need 2-3 general neurologist added to the staff (6 month waiting list to see neurology)

LOCATION: About 2 million in the metropolitan area with a mixed economic base. Affordable housing close to the hospital and farther away. Some residents lived blocks away others outside the city with only a 20 minute commute. Everyone described Kansas City as a great place to live and a few said that it's got all the big city feel without all the big city hassle.

TRAINING: The KU neurology residency seems like an incredible place to train. Each faculty member and resident stated that the program provides a diverse training experience. One resident stated that he is not just comfortable with the bread and butter but has seen a handful of all the zebras as well. The residency has been continuously fully accredited since the 1950s and is planning on trying to expand to a 24 resident complement by next year (6 per year). They have 2 pediatric neurology fellows a year and have fellowships in clinical neurophysiology, vascular, neuromuscular, and sleep. The training is across 6 different hospitals. While the residents admit that this can be a little bit of a pain, they have actually requested that each of these sites remain a part of the rotation schedule due to the different patient population that is seen at each one. Each site provides a different learning experience. They now have nearly 30 faculty members. Dr. Barohn, the program chairman, has built an incredible program. When he started as chairman, the program had only 4-5 full-time staff. Now they have no place to even put people - seems like a good problem to have. And they are still actively recruiting.

STRUCTURE:
PGY1 - Categorical year split 6 months at Topeka VA on the hospitalist service. No call at this time, however the site is an hour drive away. And 6 months a UKMC on specialty services (ICU, rheumatology, GI, etc).
PGY2 - 8 months neurology inpatient, 3 months neurology clinic, 1 month pathology/radiology.
PGY3 - 3 months consults, 1 month each of VA, NICU, neuromuscular, epilepsy, & 3 months electives.
PGY4 - 3 months child neurology, 2 months consults, 1 month each NICU and psych, and 5 months electives.

Electives:
Specialty clinic / service
MS, movement disorders
Neuro-ophthalmology
Sleep disorders
EMG
EEG
Movement disorders
Subspecialty clinics (as arranged by the resident)
Private practice neurology
Research
Faculty mentor
Research plan and product

KU Training Summary:
Clinical adult neurology - 22 months (including 2 months of NICU)
Child neurology - 3 months
Neuropathology/neuroradiology - 1 month
Psychiatry - 1 month
Neuromuscular and Epilepsy (1 month each)
Elective - 7 months

Call:
KUMC Frequency:
PG2 4-5 times per month
PG3 4 times per month
PG4 3 times per month
All call at the University of Kansas Hospital is in-house
KCVAMC home call - every other week
TMC home call - every third weekend from 0800-1700
CMH home call every third night

Longitudinal Clinics:
½ Day each week for all three years
Faculty supervision changes for each level
Typical work load
PGY2: (first six months) 1 new, 2 returns
PGY3 and 4: 2 new, 3 follow ups
KU Hospital patients assigned to clinics
Referrals from KUMC and outside clinicians

SUPPORT: The residents could not speak highly enough about Dr. Dubinsky the current program director. When residents are concerned about something, Dr. Dubinsky handles it straight away or gives the residents a straight and honest answer about why the change can't be made. The residents love this and feel very supported by the program. However, the neurology program seems to get overlooked by the hospital - no call rooms were added to the newest addition for neurology, also currently they have so much staff that space has become an issue at the clinic. However this is supposedly changing as the hospital has noticed the extreme growth in the neuroscience department and the huge demand for neurology services.

RESEARCH: The research is there if you want it. Requirements for the residency program are very light however if you seek it out, the opportunities seem endless. The Hoglund brain imaging center houses a 9T MRI for research. Clinical research areas are strong in neuromuscular, movement disorders, neurobehavioral, MS, HA, neuroepidemiology, and TBI. Basic science research includes stroke recovery, mitochondrial function in neurodegeneration, spinal cord injury, motor control physiology, MR of peripheral nerves, and MEG. Dr. Barohn brought in a $20 million grant for Clinical and Translational studies and other staff brought in a $6.2 million grand for the Alzheimer's Disease Center.
 
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Updates- Book/equipment/conference allowance is 1350 per year. We also have a neuro-private service that just started (from 2PM to 10PM there is an attending who handles new consults from the floors as well as the ED, taking the load off of us at handoff times and the times when we get flooded). Right now that service is 7 days on and 7 days off, as there is only 1 attending in that program, though there is an effort for ongoing recruitment. It makes a huge difference for nights/short call.
 
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