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Can cell biology remedy the weak general biology instruction?
jintonic5 said:hey i was wondering... i'm applying to some master's programs next semester while taking classes at umb. hypothetically if i do well next semester at umassboston (triple fingercrossing), would professors be willing to write a statement saying that as of midsemester i'm doing well in their class? i was just thinking that i don't have much going for me in terms of academic record as of now, so if they wrote a note like that it might help with master's applications.
dumb idea or no? has anyone heard of anything like that?
jintonic5 said:so for orgo II do we have to register for lecture and lab AND discussion?
jintonic5 said:i'm signing up for orgo II and cell bio(no lab). anyone interested in starting an SDN study group?
MedSchoolHopefu said:is there an application fee for the UMB program?
jintonic5 said:if you want to apply as a degree seeking student, then there's an application fee of 30 bucks i think.
blankguy, what sections/labs are you looking at for orgo II?
blankguy said:Whatever sections are not filled when I get to register on the 10th? Can you fill me in which sections are open??
ockhamsRzr said:Blankguy,
I just tried to get into add/drop registration online at UMB to find out what the rolls look like for orgo, but their site is down. I'll post what's available once I can get access. Probably later today...
Ockham
blankguy said:I just registered for Orgo II and Bio II. The labs are wednesday afternoon for orgo II and thursday morning Bio II.
blankguy said:Resurrecting this thread.
How's everybody's semester going?
It sucks having o. chem and bio back to back in the same auditorium.
jintonic5 said:i hate orgo i hate orgo i hate orgo!!!!!!
schwartz is a good professor- get's a little off topic, which is annoying, but i like the pace of the class- challenging but not overwhelming. but in the end, i'm going to have to bust my butt to do well in this class- ochem is def. my achilles heel
blankguy- how full is tuesday lab? i'm debating over whether i should switch to that one because mine (wed afternoon) is very full, almost too full.
ockhamsRzr said:Lipke sucks if you're tall...my knees are always hitting the "tray tables"!
I'm in bio 111 with Hagar, lectures are m/w 5:30-6:45. Semester is fine, first test this Wed on the first 5 chaps in Cambell. Basically most of the class hasn't done the reading and so labs are a pain because folks don't know what they're doing (plus, we lost two classes due to snow days before our first class so lectures are way behind). But after waiting and planning for prereqs it's finally great to be on the way. I'll probably begin Harvard in the Fall (doing EMT-B at Northeastern from March thru late June) with bioII and Chem. Then Chem2 and A&P in the spring...leaning very much toward PA now, hopefully the Yale program. I might take stats over the summer at Umass, but I may also take the summer off.
Hope your semester is going well,
Ock
blankguy said:From what I hear Hagar is a good professor that prepares you well for the MCAT and DATs. Very straightforward. What experiments are you running? The ones that professor white has set up?
ockhamsRzr said:We just finished our first exam this week. It was mostly chem principles and the word is that the average was 60-65. Hagar posted the answers outside of Lipke after the test so you could pretty much gauge what you got (answers to the 2 essays as well). He also said the curve is about 5 points which puts me and my group of lab/study partners all comfortably in the 90s.
Hagar is a good prof, but mostly it's the Cambell book that's really good. He lectures right from it and assuming you do the readings in advance of his lectures he's great. He also has his pet points of view that popped up on the test, but the test was totally fair, bordering on easier than I expected. The folks who blew it must have done no reading.
Anyway, lab experiments so far have been all chem based: proteases, molecules, hydrophobicity, etc. Next week we break out the microscopes so that should be fun.
I'm on campus all day T/Tr, and nights M/W...when are you around and how's Orgo?
Ock
Smittyballz said:Hello,
I was wondering why there are 3 different sections one has to attend for chemistry. Discussion, lecture, and lab. It seems like a lot of time compared to other summer classes ie biology. Also does anyone know anything about S. Hawethorne who is teaching biology. Thanks so much
blankguy said:Just talked to Grace Mcsorley the premed counselor. I highly recommend that you schedule an appointment with her even if you are a nondegree student or are not officially in a postbac certificate program. You can get a composite committee letter from UMass even if you are nondegree and not in the postbac certificate program and are taking courses a la carte. Just make sure you see her.
tkim6599 said:Did she mention the 3 science classes (lab doesn't count - math does) from 3 different professors requirement in order to get a letter from UMass?
jintonic5 said:hey are you guys registered as non-degree seeking students? i am registered as a degree-seeking student, major undeclared. i decided to forgo trying to get the biochem degree cuz i would have to take all these distributions that i refuse to register for (freshman english? are you kidding me??).
i want to stay undeclared for the next year and just take the classes i want, but i'm afraid academic advising is going to hunt me down somehow. do you think they'll notice if i never move towards completing a major? or maybe i should just affiliate to something so that i can keep them off of my back? but then i have to deal with some professor who expects me to complete a major. i need to stay degree-seeking so i can continue getting those lovely financial perks of finaid what do you think i should do?
boomerang said:HI guys,
I read through alomost every posting on this thread.
I will be new to the Boston area and will be doing post-bacc and UMB.
I am having a hard time deciding what classes to take in the fall and who
to take them with.
I know I must take Biology II (offered at 6:00p.m.) and Organic.
I am also considering medical microbiology, geneteics, biochemistry...
I just graduated with a Master in Public Health with a 4.0 (and I worked full-time). So, I am no stranger to hard work. I do need to know (summation) who to take in the fall or what to take (will be taking MCAT in the spring 2006).
Any other info about moving to Boston (where to live) would be helpful.
Thanks
boomerang said:Thanks for the reply.
Well, I have taken all the required pre-med courses. I was pre-med in college but did not do well. Over the past 4 years I have been out I have taken Biology I (last summer) and Physics I (last fall).
McSorley recommended I retake courses that I did not receive an A or B in
previously, so that would be Biology II, Physics II, Biochemistry I and both sections or Orgo. Those courses must be retaken. I did receive a B- in Anatomy/Physiology.I don't know how important this is for the MCAT (or how much it would help me at this point).
Right now I am concentrating on those courses and then any others that would help me on the MCAT. I did well in General Chem but it has been
8 years since I took those classes. A refresher would boost my knowledge.
My Biological sciences section needs a serious boost. So, let me know what you think would be good to assist me in my independent MCAT prep.
I am looking into taking Cell Biology or Bichemistry/ Organic Chemistry/ Biology II and Medical Microbiology in the fall.
Let me know if you can help.
How did you prep for the MCAT.
Thanks
ncalcate said:I did my post-bacc at UMB and had great success in getting into med school and on the MCAT. I took GChem with Carter, Physics (non-calc) with Mollow, Organic with Schwartz, Bio I with Hagar, and Bio II with some idiot PhD. I'd recommend all of those professors highly (except for the PhD guy) in terms of prepping you for the MCAT.
boomerang said:Ok,
This info is great. It sounds like it will be
Fall: G Chem I, Orgo I and Physics II ( sit in on Bio class with Hagar)
Spring: Orgo II, Bio II, and Biochem/Math??
I am going to take your advise on G Chem, I agree it is very important.
I know you said you wont be here for a few weeks but
I was wondering how you prepared for the MCAT. Did you
take it the spring?
Thanks
blankguy said:Do you seriously intend to take the MCAT next april? Because the proposed courseload may not leave you enough time to properly prepare for the MCAT next spring. Orgo II, Bio II and Biochem thats a heavy courseload.
blankguy said:Do you seriously intend to take the MCAT next april? Because the proposed courseload may not leave you enough time to properly prepare for the MCAT next spring. Orgo II, Bio II and Biochem thats a heavy courseload.
Dave_D said:Yes, that does sound like quite a bit. I took only 2 classes (and an MCAT prep course) while I was getting ready for the MCAT last April. Oh for those that care I was in Cell Bio and Physics 114. It wasn't that bad but given what I heard of bio chem I'm glad I didn't take it. Also I was in Dr. Pitcher's Orgo lab in the Fall semester. (Just pointing this out since I'm starting wonder if I know any of the people that are posting here.)
Dave D
boomerang said:Blankguy,
Last August I took the MCAT while working a 40 hour job and going full time in a Master Program (graduated with 4.0). I did just as well as I did two years previous while just studying for the MCAT and working and got the same score.
For the two years I have been doing a 8:30 to 5:00 and then 6:00 to 10:00 everyday and through the summer.
Honestly, taking only three classes seems easy but because they are science classes I chose to do 3 classes each semester instead of four.
In the spring I will probably only want to take two lab classes and then a class without lab. I think it is doable. What I am debating is if I will take a prep course or just get the materials and do some self study.
Don't get me wrong, it is heavy in the spring but compared to what I have been doing it won't be as formidable as it sounds.
Blank guy, you have any advice on how to study next spring for MCAT.
I was actually thinking of reviewing all my sciences in the fall and then strat taking practice tests in the spring. What do you think?
blankguy said:I am struggling to figure out how to study for the MCAT now. I m using examkrackers and the 1001/101 books. They are good a cuting out all the fluff and background material.
But if you are going to do a full load of courses with the MCAT it might be better to do a prep course because frankly monkeying around trying to figure out your study plan is very distracting, but if you don't have the $$$$$ then you will have to get the books yourself and do it on your own. I think doint the practice tests in the spring is a good idea.