to all arabs students

[Doodie]

Hi all,
I am Muslim and Arabian girl who wants to study Medicine in the USA.
I graduated from medical institute here and I am working on my medical English and self learning to basic medical stuff before applying to any medical school there.
my question is for all Arabians who started medicine in USA
1- what are my chances to be accepted in a fine medschool at the US?
2- what should I do for now beside improving my English ?
3- are there any challenging factors that I should be ware of?
thnx all

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[Boss]

Hi!!!

Hpoe you are well,

Regarding for your question, the admission in USA it so so difficult and there are many requirments you have to do it like MCAT test and I`ve looked for many schools there but I faild to get acceptance so I change my scolarship to other countries .
That it is not disappointed but you have to work hard to get the acceptance

Best regards

 

[BrownianMotion]

Salam,
so being an international student, its extremely tough to get accepted into a US medical school, you're going to have to be like 99th percentile on the mcats or something, the fact of the matter is, prolly less than 50 students who are international get into all US medical schools combined, your best bet may be to go to one of the american schools in the middle east (ie Cornell in Doha, Qatar or WVU in Oman) and then you can do your clinicals in the US or soemthing)
good luck
wasalam

 

[Doodie]

Hi!!!

Hpoe you are well,

Regarding for your question, the admission in USA it so so difficult and there are many requirments you have to do it like MCAT test and I`ve looked for many schools there but I faild to get acceptance so I change my scolarship to other countries .
That it is not disappointed but you have to work hard to get the acceptance

Best regards

yes, I know it is very difficult but I know I can work hard ,
any way I will do my best and try and then maybe I will change my choice to other countries like you did....
but to where did you change your scholarship??
Best of luck to you

Salam,
so being an international student, its extremely tough to get accepted into a US medical school, you're going to have to be like 99th percentile on the mcats or something, the fact of the matter is, prolly less than 50 students who are international get into all US medical schools combined, your best bet may be to go to one of the american schools in the middle east (ie Cornell in Doha, Qatar or WVU in Oman) and then you can do your clinicals in the US or soemthing)
good luck
wasalam

yes, I was thinking of studying in the American Univ in Lebanon, but it would be better if I could go into medical school in USA, it would be shorter for me
if I couldn't do what I want I may study at the Cornell in Doha Qatar or WVU in Oman, thnx and good luck



But what about Canada?should I give it a thought?xxx

 

[rox]

Hello,

You might want to go to a regular medschool in your country and do your residency in USA, but this is going to limit your residency choices so much.

 

[Doodie]

Hello,

You might want to go to a regular medschool in your country and do your residency in USA, but this is going to limit your residency choices so much.

yes, and that is why i don't want to get into local medicl school

 

[rox]

Well, I don't know to what extent you know about the residency options...but for many years Internal Medicine has been possible for foreign graduates as well as its fellowships; cardiology, GI, endocrine, rheumatology...etc. I think, pediatrics and psychiatry are also possible. I heard that Anasthesiology is becoming possible for foreigners.

Unless you're thinking of other specialities, local medical school could be an option for you.

"I graduated from medical institute here"....what do you mean by that? Do u have any medical degree? Did you graduate from an american high scool in your country?

To be honest, I don't know any arab who went through the route you're thinking of, but I know many of those who did it my way, not mentioning the financial burden of a US medical school you have to deal with.

 

[Doodie]

Well, I don't know to what extent you know about the residency options...but for many years Internal Medicine has been possible for foreign graduates as well as its fellowships; cardiology, GI, endocrine, rheumatology...etc. I think, pediatrics and psychiatry are also possible. I heard that Anasthesiology is becoming possible for foreigners.

Unless you're thinking of other specialities, local medical school could be an option for you.

"I graduated from medical institute here"....what do you mean by that? Do u have any medical degree? Did you graduate from an american high scool in your country?

To be honest, I don't know any arab who went through the route you're thinking of, but I know many of those who did it my way, not mentioning the financial burden of a US medical school you have to deal with.

the medical institute in my country gives you medical degree that allow you to practice as assistance, my specialty is anaesthesia and i work and medical tech in this field...there is radiology and optics specialties too
my grades where 90%, I did very well but yet we dont have basic medical subjects in the institute which make it harder for me.
the financial stuff I am not worry about cause my family are going to support me till i finish studying
and no I didn't graduated from an American highschool here
but the reason I am seeking USA is that I have a lot of family members there and it will be more shorter way for me if I wanted to specialize in pediatrics without going through USMLE exam
so what do you think?

 

[rox]

and it will be more shorter way for me if I wanted to specialize in pediatrics without going through USMLE exam

you have to go through USMLE anyways u know..whether you graduated from an american medical school or some foreign medical school...but you need to score pretty higher when you're a foreign grad.

Well, just to make things clear here, I am a medical student at Jordan Uni of Science & Technology, so I am a foreigner and never been in the american system, but the reason I responded to your post is that I am interested in a medical career in USA and I have some experience from those trying to get into the american system..but never met any arab trying to get into a US medical school stright away like your case...And I think even if you want to study any other major in USA, you'll need to do a lot of exams(TOEFL, SAT) to be accepted in the system.

Anyway, you really need to talk to someone who graduated from a "non-american" high school in a foreign country and managed to get into an american university so that you can know how to come about it.

Nevertheless, you might want to consider basing something on the current degree you hold and try to get there through it, and then do medicine. I heard there's a dramatic change in the american system regarding Anasthesia, but no quite sure it's on your side.

One thing I know for sure, seeking a residency in pediatrics after you finish a medical degree in your country is way shorter and easier than US med school then pediatrics.

 

[Doodie]

I decided to go to local medical school and I did visit it today and I found it will be OK... but sure I will continue my career in the USA

I visited some American friends today and it seems really hard and long way...I can't wait so I will do what every one advised me to do

which year are you? I have lot of doctors friends who are preparing for specialty in USA...and I will learn from their experience God willing

 

[rox]

Well, good for you, I'm glad you made up your mind (I hope I was helpful)

I'm gonna start my fourth year after 3 weeks...(Fourth year here isn't like US fourth year, I still have 3 yrs to go).

Anyway, you need to focus on your medical learing and do things that will eventually maximize your odds of being accepted in USA; that is, research, volunteer, workshops, etc.( I can tell u more about that if you wish)

Which uni you're thinking of? What's their program like? is it case-based? basic(systems)/clinical? You mentioned something about AUB, no?

Wish you best of luck

 

[Doodie]

yes, thank you rox
I will start my 1st year next month , i choose a local medschool which teach medicine in English and was accepted very eazy because my high grades in the institute and highschool
I would Appreciate if you tell me what I can do else...
thanx rox
best of luck

 

[rox]

Well, Congrats!

1. Enjoy yourself and don't kill yourself with medicine!

2. Make sure you read books and focus on your learning.

3. Things that directors like to see in ur CV( quite doable things):

- Research( I think it's still a lil premature to be engaged in research): Go to some of the physicians or basic scientists in ur uni and tell them you'd like to do research, they'll most propably let you do data collection( which is fine). They love to have someone collecting data for them Make sure your name appears in the paper. A research in the field you anticipate to specialise in is preferable.( search for this topic in the forum)

- Volunteering: WHO, Blood donation, IFMSA, Operation Smile...etc.

- Awards

- Attend medical conventions and workshops, you'll make contacts with powerful people.

4. Good letters of recommendation, Electives...don't bother with them for a couple of years, and read about them when time comes.

P.S Don't expect to do all of these things in a couple of months...It will propably take you several years and you'll feel frustrated many many times, it's ok, take a break.

 

[Sara:)]

Hey all
I'm a 2nd yr medical student in the University of Jordan, i'm starting my 3rd yr next semester

I never knew studying medicine abroad was that difficult until now! i don't really understand what u guys are talking abt, do u mean studying medicine or SPECIALIZING in a field abroad is the one that is hard?

I also still don't know what field i'm going to specialise in, nor do i know in which country.. so should i make up my mind abt these things?

and should i start worrying about the researches, recommendations, donations.. that u mentioned?

I'm so confused!

 

[erichaj]

yes, and that is why i don't want to get into local medicl school

Acutally, you can finish med-school in USA and if you pass the USMLE I, II, and apply for a residency in the USA You should have a good chance in residency programs like;

Internal medicine, family medicine, general surgery etc.

you have to get a visa to get into the country. but you would have to do that anyway if you wanted to get into medical school in the USA. And Yes, It is very competitive.

There a many people that finish medical school in their own country and apply for USA.

 

[rox]

Hey all
I'm a 2nd yr medical student in the University of Jordan, i'm starting my 3rd yr next semester

I never knew studying medicine abroad was that difficult until now! i don't really understand what u guys are talking abt, do u mean studying medicine or SPECIALIZING in a field abroad is the one that is hard?

I also still don't know what field i'm going to specialise in, nor do i know in which country.. so should i make up my mind abt these things?

and should i start worrying about the researches, recommendations, donations.. that u mentioned?

I'm so confused!

Well, Sara, seems like you're new to the whole thing, but don't worry We were discussing the option of studying medicine in USA as a foreign high school graduate vs specializing in medicine in USA as a foreign medical graduate.

I hope you figured out the difference if you read the whole thread thoroughly. One point not mentioned and I'd like to add since u use the word "abroad" loosley, is that other competitve specialities in countries other than USA like europe and propably australia are easier to obtain compared to USA.

If you're not thinking of specialising abroad( and yes it is "that difficult'), you don't need to bother with anything, literally! Otherwise, you need to worry about the things I mentioned, and I'll be glad to feed you with info since you're in Jordan, specially Amman since lotsa events take place there.

I hope that was helpful.

 

[Sara:)]

yes i did get the difference, thx

i would be glad if u could tell me how to do the things u previously mentioned, i think that besides having a great benefit, they can be fun to do, as they break the routine of hardwork!

thanks in advance, and sorry 3al 3'alabeh!

 

[rox]

It's basically the same things I mentioned above( and yes many are fun). I'm not gonna go through the research thing again.

King Hussein Cancer Centre: they have a volunteer application that u can get from their home page, fill it, and send it. Frankly, I haven't done that. Pls, tell me what it's like if you work with them.

JMA.org.jo : look for the upcoming events and see if you can attend them.

Many medical conventions are held in Amman, u just find a way to know about their dates( besides from JMA).

We organized a blood donation day in our uni hospital a couple of months ago, it was an awesome experience.

There's a medical student association with international affiliation, still under construction. It'd be nice if you guys join it, and I'll inform u as soon as it's launched.

These options are by no means conclusive, I'm sure there are lotsa such opporunities out there. I'll be glad to share with you such info, and looking for a mutual sharing

 

[Sara:)]

thanks for sharing the info

i'll start doing these things before my next semester.. i'll start asking abt other options, and i won't hesitate to inform u with anything i get to know

and if i apply to work with the cancer center i'll tell u abt the whole experience..

i hope it'll be fun..

 

[rox]

Ok, wish you luck..keep in touch.

 

[Fascia Lata]

Just want to say hi to all the Jordanian friends out there. You guys have OUTSTANDING med schools. good luck

 

[rox]

Hey Fascia Lata...Thx..best wishes