Telehealth work in PM&R

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Is anyone doing tele-rehabilitation work either as their primary job or as a moonlighting/side job?
COVID opened the gates I think to people accepting and seeing the value of telemedicine, but I'm wondering if there will be more opportunities.
I know SNF consulting is something more of my colleagues are getting into. Could one do this via telelhealth, with say the help with a nurse or MA on site?
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Yes. I currently do it with a remote NP. Also have colleagues doing it for acute rehab. I setup a telemed P&O clinic which is now nationwide and in 900 clinics. PM me if you want details.
 
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Yes. I currently do it with a remote NP. Also have colleges doing it for acute rehab. I setup a telemed P&O clinic which is now nationwide and in 900 clinics. PM me if you want details.
Is it really worth doing acute rehab remotely? I assume they need to hire remote NP’s as well. Seems like that would take a good chunk out of your income and that it’d be more worthwhile to go in yourself. Unless the whole point is they just don’t want to commute/move to that area.
 
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This is for remote coverage with remote NP. Telemed pays the same as in person.
 
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The provider pays or a corporation you contract with. The NP bills insurance and that covers salary and profit on top.
 
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The provider pays or a corporation you contract with. The NP bills insurance and that covers salary and profit on top.
I still don't quite get it. Sorry--pretend I'm stupid, because I'm genuinely curious and honestly fairly stupid/uneducated on this subject.

How is the provider then getting paid if the NP is billing insurance? They can't both bill can they, since the NP is acting as an extension of the telehealth physician? (They're basically their "hands" correct)?

If it were a standard MD/NP oversight relationship, doesn't only the MD bill/get reimbursed? My understanding was they get reimbursed at MD rates, but put in a fraction of the time that an MD normally has to put in (since the NP does most of the work), so ultimately with their name on more charts they're making more profit when they pay the NP from their insurance reimbursements.

I get a situation of a corporation covering the NP. Because maybe the VA or whatever rural agency has no access to the specialists needed, so it's cheaper for them to pay the salary of an NP plus a consulting telehealth doc than a locums doc.
 
Your understanding is completely off. Will PM you the details.
 
My experience with telehealth is that it still needs a lot of work to make more ideal. But getting better. Inpatient would be much easier to use routinely.

I've used telemedicine during inpatient on occasion and it can be hit or miss. Usually requires a nurse or someone to be available to carry around a device. Which they don't like to do. Constant need to adjust camera angles. I miss enough on physical exam that I don't like it and hard to diagnosis some disorders. Also, a lot of patients don't like seeing their doctor on a TV screen and also don't remember that they were seen by a doctor. If I had a flashy robot that I could drive around it would be a lot better.

When I did outpatient telemedicine over the last 2-3 years, for me, has been less than ideal. Mostly due to technical issues with patients and staff (lack of reliable internet service, mispositioning of camera by patient, staff not knowing what they are doing, buffering, etc). Really disliked doing it outpatient as I would have to spend much more time per encounter and often I didn't feel like I got anything out of it. Too often it would take over 20-40 minutes to get a patient connected from the start of their appt time. But I was in a rural area and most of my patients did not have internet or a reliable phone service. How am i supposed to evaluate someones leg pain when all i get is a buffered, overly-zoomed and blurry image of their face and they are unable to move the camera?

I think the ideal situation would be using telemedicine inpatient as a consultant only, and having a robot or something of high quality that can interact effectively with a wide variety of patients and age groups successfully.
 
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