anonymoustiger
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Sounds good. Glad to hear your thoughts. I think those actions of Harvard and other schools bled into/affected medical school and other graduate admissions, because people question why discrimination can't similarly occur in graduate/professional admissions. While it's nice to hear that maybe you or one or two other school admissions member might keep it in mind, I don't think it was assuring enough as a whole.Sorry, I thought that was well covered.
I hate the term ORM personally, and agree that the concept of grouping all Asians together leads to great harm. I didn't think that was in question.
And for the record I think what Harvard was doing is wrong, and was absolutely anti-Asian discrimination.
But I also think race-blind admissions is a bad practice that will hurt students from historically undeserved groups, including many of the PI populations I work with heavily.
Race-blind admissions will certainly hurt representation from historically underserved groups. Yes, this is a reality and I don't think that is good. The statistics from Berkeley shows that. However, I hope that you and others of the admissions committee keep in mind what I said and the articles I linked later in the post. AA protects historically underrepresented groups and other racial groups from past, present and future discrimination. There is countless history at our disposal that indicates the ill treatment of the Black community. However, what admissions people may miss is the relatively new concept of casteism and its effect both mentally, physically, health-wise and education-wise (see the rest of my post recent post). If you serve on the admissions team, it's your responsibility to also evaluate other historically underrepresented groups within the Asian diasporas. I was alarmed that a professor/faculty hadn't reflected on this and was quick to knock me down for trying to highlight it. I'm not as well educated or well spoken as you maybe, but don't miss the forest.
I don't know how else to phrase it without sounding insensitive. Is it impossible for admissions to evaluate individual experiences? Maybe I don't understand how med admissions work differently from undergrad.
Regardless, @eigen (and others) I didn't appreciate being called insensitive for trying to highlight something, which I believe a faculty member and others with more lived experience should have been able to rationalize and speak on in an equal manner to the populations you represent. Think of how many Laotian, Cambodian, Vietnamese physicians you've seen. Think of how many times you've discussed casteism and nuanced experiences amongst your Indian colleagues (if you have any). Asians are more likely to internalize racism and discrimination in the workplace/education/elsewhere and they just keep their heads down and push. Just because you and others don't hear about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist in a historical sense. Recent events are also part of history as much as events occurring hundreds of years ago.
I don't think anything more fruitful will come from my discussion of this topic, but just hoping it atleast offered a different perspective as you evaluate future applications.