Scheduling 4th year for a budding, general surgery hopeful.

[Surgeon D.O.]

My 4th year begins the last week of March.

I am currently allowed a max of 6 away rotations from my base site (which has no GME residencies).

What should my always look like for auditions and what is an appropriate time frame given Level 2/ STEP 2?

I currently have 4 programs I am interested in applying to for auditions, they are all in the same state which is where I am looking to match. I'm not sure if being in the same state and region would count against me or not.

Is it also common to be "denied" an audition by a site, which I am also a bit concerned about with sub-stellar scores? (224/556).

Thanks SDN fam

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[hhht]

My 4th year begins the last week of March.

I am currently allowed a max of 6 away rotations from my base site (which has no GME residencies).

What should my always look like for auditions and what is an appropriate time frame given Level 2/ STEP 2?

I currently have 4 programs I am interested in applying to for auditions, they are all in the same state which is where I am looking to match. I'm not sure if being in the same state and region would count against me or not.

Is it also common to be "denied" an audition by a site, which I am also a bit concerned about with sub-stellar scores? (224/556).

Thanks SDN fam

I'm a 4th year applying gen surg this cycle and I did 5 aways (2 auditions at DO places and 3 sub-i's at MD programs) Our 4th year started in July so I have been doing them back to back. If your goal is to maximize interviews I would only do auditions at former DO places. Former DO places tend to care far more about auditions and you actually being there. I have interviews from both DO places I auditioned at. I only received interviews at 1 out of the 3 MD programs I did subi's at. I even got letters and did research at one that I did not receive an interview at. My scores are also pretty high 250+ step1 and 260+ step2.

If you apply early, you should have no issues scheduling aways at former DO places. I don't think your region matters very much or if you do them all in the same state or region. You should have plenty of time to fit in 6 from March until November when interview season begins.

 

[Surgeon D.O.]

Also 2 of the places we m looking at auditions at are HCA, one person told me HCA doesn’t care about auditions while someone else said to still do them.

Both are are former DO programs

 

[hhht]

Also 2 of the places we m looking at auditions at are HCA, one person told me HCA doesn’t care about auditions while someone else said to still do them.

Both are are former DO programs

I don't think the hospital being HCA matters. If you are interested in getting an interview there then I would do it.

 

[Surgeon D.O.]

So get the auditions in early and then use the rest of 4th year for my required rotations? (FM, EM, Anes/Rads, ICU etc)?

 

[hhht]

So get the auditions in early and then use the rest of 4th year for my required rotations? (FM, EM, Anes/Rads, ICU etc)?

I mean you can pretty much do auditions until December, so you'll have plenty of time to get in 6 especially since you guys start in March. You don't necessarily have to do them early. Just schedule them early.

 

[Surgeon D.O.]

Also are they all 4 week auditions or any 2 week?

How did you fit boards into the audition season? My school requires us to complete Level 2 by mid May

 

[DOVinciRobot]

Is it also common to be "denied" an audition by a site, which I am also a bit concerned about with sub-stellar scores? (224/556).

Ya. Many are just first come, first serve.

Also 2 of the places we m looking at auditions at are HCA, one person told me HCA doesn’t care about auditions while someone else said to still do them.

Both are are former DO programs

I personally wouldn’t waste time on an HCA audition. They interview very heavily based purely on nothing but scores.

 

[Surgeon D.O.]

Ya. Many are just first come, first serve.

I personally wouldn’t waste time on an HCA audition. They interview very heavily based purely on nothing but scores.

I heard that about HCA from another person too which I'm bummed about since there are 2 former DO / HCA sites located near where I want to end up.

 

[Surgeon D.O.]

Do you recommend any "practice" auditions before you go on one at a place you want to match at?

I feel like it takes me too long to get used to things at a new place and I'll be shooting myself in the foot if I'm only on my 2nd surgery rotation at the start of 4th year.

 

[DOVinciRobot]

Do you recommend any "practice" auditions before you go on one at a place you want to match at?

I feel like it takes me too long to get used to things at a new place and I'll be shooting myself in the foot if I'm only on my 2nd surgery rotation at the start of 4th year.

I would either do an audition at a place that may not be my top top choice first, or at the program that is known to prepare students really well for future rotations.

 

[Surgeon D.O.]

Reviving my own thread.

Former AOA sites to avoid for general surgery auditions / applying?

I have spoken to some of you on here via PM and have been informed of several sites to avoid already which I have marked down. Looking now to more or less finalize the list.

Thanks all and happy new year.

 

[Starbuxian]

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