Pure pharmacology jobs with a PharmD...any ideas?

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Anybody ever heard of a job revolving around primarily pharmacology knowledge/application with a PharmD? As an example, when I was at Mylan, they hired Pharmacologists to do various things. One day a new case report came off the wire about a medication Mylan produces causing some bizarre side effect (I forget the specifics). His job was to more or less conjure up theoretical pathways by which said side effect might have come about and more or less figure out ways to deal with it.

That **** sounds cool as hell. I actually got in trouble for hanging out and just chatting away with him for 4 hours and neglecting my busy work.

Can a PharmD get into this? PharmD + fellowship experience required is cool, too...I'll cry and whine...but if I had to do it, i suppose I would. Actually biting my tongue and going for a PhD in Pharmacology would be something I'm not sure I'd actually go through with. I'm tired of being in academia as is....I'm not sure I can handle another 5+ years. I might go (more) crazy.

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There're two PharmD's on faculty at my school who are strictly research based. One researches pharmacogenomics of various drugs and the other works on the pharmcokinetics of HIV meds. I realize that I have not used the word pharmcology in my post, so this may not be what you're looking for.
 
I'm interested in this as well. I was in a pharmacology specialist program for two years before entering Pharmacy and I was taught by my professor that you could be a clinical pharmacologist if you have an MD and specialize in that field, or if you have a PhD in pharmacology and gain clinical experience. But since he didn't mention pharmacists/PharmD, I'm now wondering if pharmacists could do what they do with additional training.
 
I do know some pharmacists who work in clinical pharmacology in industry, but it is virtually impossible to get in straight out of school without either working in other positions on the research side, or completing a fellowship. Also, if you want to make it a career and be able to advance, not sit on junior-level positions all your life, you would need to get a PhD eventually.
 
Actually biting my tongue and going for a PhD in Pharmacology would be something I'm not sure I'd actually go through with. I'm tired of being in academia as is....I'm not sure I can handle another 5+ years. I might go (more) crazy.

PhD is very little classroom instruction, it's mostly you working on your project. Not that different from regular job, IMHO, just less money & more guidance available. I haven't done one but I know quite few people who got PhDs in biochem, neuropsych, analytical chemistry, etc.

I am surprized someone would want to devote their life to pharmacology... though I wouldn't know, I haven't been awake for a single full lecture in that class. We had it right after lunch, in a a nice brand-new auditorium with high-backed soft leather chairs with armrests. And we all sat in the back, as med students sat in the front rows, that being their main auditorium. Not that professors ever did anything other than read the slides anyway.
 
Exactly what I wanted to know, thanks.

Just don't go into the industry then; they don't develop any of their own drugs anyway. They prey on academic institutions (NIH funded researchers) and small start up companies while relying on technology transfer provisions put in place by the Bayh-Dole Act of 1980 to "develop" anything that could remotely be considered a new molecular entity. They basically wait for researchers to come up with truly innovative drugs, and then offer royalties for the rights to market the molecule. And they subsequently parade around claiming they spend all of their money coming up with these life saving medications, which clearly justifies raping Americans when it comes to the cost of drugs.

You wanna talk about some of the true innovation we get from the pharmaceutical industry: think of drugs such as levocetirizine (anything wrong with cetirizine?), paliperidone (sounds different, but this would be the active metabolite of risperidone), desloratadine (loratadine is ineffective, and guess what, the des- variety is too), escitalopram (no advantage over good old fashioned citalopram when you read independent research), me-too, me-too, me-too. If you want to specialize in patent extending, the industry is the way to go.

Personally, I do not think a PhD is necessary to have a career centered around actual pharmacology. Not sure if I could convince you of anything, so I will not make an attempt at this point.
 
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PhD is very little classroom instruction, it's mostly you working on your project. Not that different from regular job, IMHO, just less money & more guidance available. I haven't done one but I know quite few people who got PhDs in biochem, neuropsych, analytical chemistry, etc.

I am surprized someone would want to devote their life to pharmacology... though I wouldn't know, I haven't been awake for a single full lecture in that class. We had it right after lunch, in a a nice brand-new auditorium with high-backed soft leather chairs with armrests. And we all sat in the back, as med students sat in the front rows, that being their main auditorium. Not that professors ever did anything other than read the slides anyway.

Good day in the morning, you had soft high back leather seats in class? Maybe I should have applied to where you went. I mean, we have a new classroom with all the technological equipment and new furnishings, but nothing in that room in made out of leather. Of course, that doesn't keep me from falling asleep after lunch from time to time.
 
Just don't go into the industry then; they don't develop any of their own drugs anyway. They prey on academic institutions (NIH funded researchers) and small start up companies while relying on technology transfer provisions put in place by the Bayh-Dole Act of 1980 to "develop" anything that could remotely be considered a new molecular entity. They basically wait for researchers to come up with truly innovative drugs, and then offer royalties for the rights to market the molecule. And they subsequently parade around claiming they spend all of their money coming up with these life saving medications, which clearly justifies raping Americans when it comes to the cost of drugs.

You wanna talk about some of the true innovation we get from the pharmaceutical industry: think of drugs such as levocetirizine (anything wrong with cetirizine?), paliperidone (sounds different, but this would be the active metabolite of risperidone), desloratadine (loratadine is ineffective, and guess what, the des- variety is too), escitalopram (no advantage over good old fashioned citalopram when you read independent research), me-too, me-too, me-too. If you want to specialize in patent extending, the industry is the way to go.

I don't necessarily have to go into "drug discovery" (I hate the term.) In fact, the example of a job I found interesting I gave was available at one of the largest generic drug manufacturer in the US.

I actually do agree with you, the pharma companies DO cherry pick decades of progressive work in biochemisty and pharmacology and only patent and develop the intellectual end product - a molecule that elucidates a response that had been theorized by the the entire community of pharmacologists/biochemists/what have you.

My main interest is how inhibition of pathways never touched before by pharmaceuticals my have pharmacodynamic responses that aren't initially evident. Like how PPAR-gamma agonists raised LDL....or how DPP-IV inhibitors reduce endogenous neoplasm suppression mechanisms. It's not really the outcome that I'm worried about or even interested in...it's the weird ****. But that's just me. I am the personification of unconventional. It's how I think. Everything with me is outside the box...the sad thing is that thinking inside the box is where I fail. That's why I don't think I can be a great clinical pharmacist. It's all about consistency, knowing the best guidelines, attention to detail. That's just not me. I honestly think I would be dangerous as a BCPS roaming a hospital on rounds.

Maybe I'd be better today with my ADD treated. I used to daydream so much and my mind only giving time to that in which I was interested in, I have no idea how the hell nobody stepped in during the previous 24 years of my life and intervened. I honestly wish I could do another month of internal medicine somewhere just to see how much better I'd do. I mean, I didn't do terrible when I rotated...it's just that every month I'd be rated roughly as "knowledge of pharmacology/pathophys/biochemical pathways is very well above average, bridging this knowledge to clinical practice needs work. Mike fails to work up to his potential." In retrospect, I can see why.

Like this one time a patient who was withdrawing from EtOH wouldn't respond to a benzo, but rather have paradoxical symptoms. The preceptor would ask me to look into it. I'd spend the rest of the day researching and wondering how the hell a GABA potentiator like a benzo would cause agitation in a person who is suffering from GABA-innervation based withdrawal. Is there an isolated BZD receptor dysfunction? Might the person not really be in EtOH withdrawal? Etc, etc. Of course the preceptor would want me to look up second line therapies....but for some reason I never did. I'd just read up on molecular pharmacology. They'd get pissed, I'd think I did a good job...you
know.

Yeah....

To get off of a huge tangent, I just like to think about receptors and biochemical pathways and ****. That's what is interesting to me.


Personally, I do not think a PhD is necessary to have a career centered around actual pharmacology.

Though to get into the coolest jobs you might. Or not. I mean, that's the entire point of this thread. I'd like to know what I can get into with a PharmD vs. post-doc fellowship vs. PhD. I have a year until the wife graduates with her PharmD to decide what I want to do long term...I figure now's as good a time as any to get started figuring it all out. If a fellowship is my best option, I'd be best off figuring that out before mid-years in Louisville this fall...and then begrudgingly apply to one.

Not sure if I could convince you of anything, so I will not make an attempt at this point.

I dunno, talk some sense and I'll listen. I'm actually a fairly reasonable person. I know we got off on the wrong foot being that I think Tim Tebow is overrated and I think residencies are just a mechanism by which hospitals and universities can get away with training future labor by underpaying said future labor using the powerful facade of prestige....and your opinion on both counts is very strongly the opposite.

I mean, that's cool, people can think different things. I have a feeling in the real world we'd probably like each other and be shocked how similarly we think. You think you are never wrong and I think I'm never wrong. It's only natural we clash when moments of disagreement arise. I'm glad you are around, actually. You frequently add things I don't think of to discussions as you add a perspective I am frequently not privy to....that of one of the poor human beings that is consumed by a residency 60 hours of their lives a week. And I bet I add things to discussions you don't think of either....that of a dork that goes to the HSC library and reads pharmacology journals when he is bored because he finds them genuinely interesting.

If you have an opinion or something to add, please do. Sincerely.
 
PhD is very little classroom instruction, it's mostly you working on your project. Not that different from regular job, IMHO, just less money & more guidance available. I haven't done one but I know quite few people who got PhDs in biochem, neuropsych, analytical chemistry, etc.

Oh, I'm aware of that. Usually about 1.5-2 years of taking real classes. Brushing up on signal transduction, more in depth pharmacology, more in depth statistics, stuff like that. It's just that I'd be trapped for 4-7 years.

I am surprized someone would want to devote their life to pharmacology... though I wouldn't know, I haven't been awake for a single full lecture in that class.

Dude, I'm weird as hell. Ask anyone who reads my posts with any frequency or anyone who knows me in real life...they will willfully confirm. "Mike is f'n crazy." I am who I am...and at least that's not boring....


We had it right after lunch, in a a nice brand-new auditorium with high-backed soft leather chairs with armrests. And we all sat in the back, as med students sat in the front rows, that being their main auditorium. Not that professors ever did anything other than read the slides anyway.

That's more or less what I think of when I think of therapeutics classes. Except for oncology....the guy that teaches that uses the Socratic method. Best lecturer I had all four years.
 
I do know some pharmacists who work in clinical pharmacology in industry, but it is virtually impossible to get in straight out of school without either working in other positions on the research side, or completing a fellowship.


Could you expand on the underlined bits? Do you have any idea what type of things their jobs involve?
 
Could you expand on the underlined bits? Do you have any idea what type of things their jobs involve?

Actually, no, since I know them socially and have not discussed their positions with them, not having any interest in that myself. I am having a lunch with one colleague from clinical pharmacology later this month, if I can remember, I will ask her. From what little I recall, it is mostly planning Phase I trials, and a lot of project management, and also some travel to trial sites is required. What I would suggest is doing a quick and dirty search with key words such as "clinical pharmacology" and "Pharm.D." on any major job search site such as monster.com and careerbuilder.com. I did that right now and got this job description:


Clinical Research Scientist - Pharmacology
Reporting to the Director of Clinical Pharmacology, the Clinical Pharmacologist will be responsible for leading scientific and strategic planning, internal and external project communications, and clinical documentation for NDA-directed clinical development programs for Idenix's drug candidates with an emphasis on clinical pharmacology studies..
Primary Responsibilities:
· Design Phase I studies and clinical pharmacology components in Phase II-IV trials.
Design clinical pharmacology components (pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic) of clinical trials in all phases of development.
·Analyze data, interpret results, and first-author clinical pharmacology-related clinical documentation, including: clinical protocols; study reports; abstracts and manuscripts; presentations; clinical pharmacology components of investigator brochures, other IND and NDA documents; and various other internal and external documents and communications, as needed.
·Working with Clinical Operations, help develop the operational strategies for clinical pharmacology studies and development programs - investigator selection, CRO selection, budgets, etc.
·Help manage program timelines for clinical pharmacology components and related matters; and help manage budgets to meet or exceed time, quality and fiscal objectives.
·Assure cross-functional alignment for Clinical Pharmacology studies and activities with other functional areas involved in clinical development programs, within Idenix and at intercompany interfaces.
Requirements:
·Minimum requirement: Pharm.D. or Ph.D. in clinical pharmacology, pharmacokinetics, biopharmaceutics or a related field) with 2 or more years of industry experience is strongly preferred.
·A thorough command of pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics and their integration in the clinical drug development process is essential. The candidate must have demonstrated expertise in the design, analysis and reporting of clinical pharmacology studies. The candidate must be competent in the use of industry-standard PK and PK/PD software for noncompartmental, modeling and population-PK and PK/PD analyses and simulation.
·Substantial technical writing experience is essential – documented first authorship of protocols, study reports, regulatory communications, manuscripts, etc. IND and NDA submission experience is preferred.
·Familiarity with regulatory issues related to Phase I-IV clinical research is essential.
·Excellent communication (verbal and written), presentation, and organizational skills are essential.
·Therapeutic area (anti-infective, anti-viral) training and experience are desirable.
·Clinical budget and project management skills are desirable.
 
Just don't go into the industry then; they don't develop any of their own drugs anyway. They prey on academic institutions (NIH funded researchers) and small start up companies while relying on technology transfer provisions put in place by the Bayh-Dole Act of 1980 to "develop" anything that could remotely be considered a new molecular entity. They basically wait for researchers to come up with truly innovative drugs, and then offer royalties for the rights to market the molecule. And they subsequently parade around claiming they spend all of their money coming up with these life saving medications, which clearly justifies raping Americans when it comes to the cost of drugs.

A lot of zeal, but unfortunately not based on deep understanding of the issue. You are parroting almost exactly an article that came out a couple weeks ago...

Give me ONE example of a drug brought into the market by the academia or a CRO (and there are plenty of those, since separation of labor has been proven as the most efficient way of labor organization well over a hundred years ago) in the recent years (warfarin is NOT recent). Anyone can come up with a number of patentable molecules. There are hundreds of them patented each week, by pharma research divisions, by CROs, by academia, by biotech, by private citizens. A computer program is what sorts out molecules, and it doesn't matter where that computer sits. Synthesizing that molecule may or may not be a difficult process, but again, it means very little in the long run, because there are thousands such molecules being synthesized every year. Even figuring out the most bioavailable form of that molecule, be it a salt, or a specific crystalline form may not matter. Because then what matters is

- can you formulate it? (and there are many great molecules with a lot of promise that never go anywhere simply because you cannot formulate them into an end product)
- will it replicate in humans its in-vitro or animal effects?
- will it be safe and effective when used in general population?

And there are other twists and turns along the way but these are the major ones. And if academia sometimes does go through questions one and two, they never go through large-scale human trials without industry sponsorship. First, because they haven't got the money (and it costs a lot...) and second, because they are risk averse, and it is very, very high risk proposal. Finally, they don't have the ability to take the drug through the approval process.

The reasons most new drugs are developed outside pharma are very simple.

- You have at most a few hundred scientists working on discovery stages in-house at any major pharma. That leaves thousands working outside of pharma.
- It is more efficient to outsource certain functions, and makes more sense fiscally. Hospitals do outsourcing to, for exact same reasons. Think about it. A lot of RnD companies on the market are research units spun off by pharma.
- There are organizations whose bread and butter is discovery/preclinical/maybe phase I depending on the company, and because that is what they focus on, they do it better. Also, there is efficiency and time saving in smaller scale with less cumbersome paperwork.

All that said, "preying" is an incorrect term simply because what comes from outside is early-stage and costs just a few millions, maybe $25-30 if they take it through phase I and early phase II before licensing it out - which is pennies on the total expense scale of developing a compound. And compounds coming from outside have as big a failure rate as those developed internally, you just don't hear about all the products that fail in phase I and II and early phase III. I do. And I have seen whole new drug classes fail after being trumped up as the next best thing.

There is mutually beneficial collaboration between big pharma and CROs, academically based or privately held, based on concepts from Microeconomics 101 (I thought residencies devoted a rotation specifically to management issues, which do rely on basic economics concepts?). It's rarely big pharma going to license something in - it usually the developers wanting to license something out who come in and sell themselves. Pharmaceutical industry world is a lot more complex than it seems, and I suggest doing more research and thinking it through before making blanket statements. Pharma industry is not perfect, nothing is - but your argument has no depth to it, and it is disappointing when people just spout off what they hear in the media without thinking about it.
 
Pharmaceutical industry world is a lot more complex than it seems, and I suggest doing more research and thinking it through before making blanket statements. Pharma industry is not perfect, nothing is - but your argument has no depth to it, and it is disappointing when people just spout off what they hear in the media without thinking about it.

Nothing I have stated is based on things I hear in the media, and I will give you a small list of my "research" base into this issue (I do not have time to formulate a lengthy response to your post in its entirety right now, as I must run off to work shortly). Here are a few of the books read that have helped me form my opinion which forms the foundation of my argument:

The Truth About The Drug Companies by Marcia Angell, M.D. (former Editor in Chief of the NEJM)
http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Drug-Companies-Deceive/dp/0375508465

On The Take by Jerome Kassirer, M.D. (Former Editor in Chief of the NEJM)
http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/gener...ealth/~~/dmlldz11c2EmY2k9OTc4MDE5NTMwMDA0OA==

Overdosed America by John Abramson, M.D.
http://www.overdosedamerica.com/

Hooked by Howard Brody, M.D.
http://www.amazon.com/Hooked-Depend..._bbs_sr_1/104-5293173-7276712?ie=UTF8&s=books

The $800 Million Dollar Pill by Merrill Goozner
http://www.ucpress.edu/books/pages/10083.php
Description
Why do life-saving prescription drugs cost so much? Drug companies insist that prices reflect the millions they invest in research and development. In this gripping exposé, Merrill Goozner contends that American taxpayers are in fact footing the bill twice: once by supporting government-funded research and again by paying astronomically high prices for prescription drugs. Goozner demonstrates that almost all the important new drugs of the past quarter-century actually originated from research at taxpayer-funded universities and at the National Institutes of Health. He reports that once the innovative work is over, the pharmaceutical industry often steps in to reap the profit.

Goozner shows how drug innovation is driven by dedicated scientists intent on finding cures for diseases, not by pharmaceutical firms whose bottom line often takes precedence over the advance of medicine. A university biochemist who spent twenty years searching for a single blood protein that later became the best-selling biotech drug in the world, a government employee who discovered the causes for dozens of crippling genetic disorders, and the Department of Energy-funded research that made the Human Genome Project possible--these engrossing accounts illustrate how medical breakthroughs actually take place.

The $800 Million Pill suggests ways that the government's role in testing new medicines could be expanded to eliminate the private sector waste driving up the cost of existing drugs. Pharmaceutical firms should be compelled to refocus their human and financial resources on true medical innovation, Goozner insists. This book is essential reading for everyone concerned about the politically charged topics of drug pricing, Medicare coverage, national health care, and the role of pharmaceutical companies in developing
 
A lot of zeal, but unfortunately not based on deep understanding of the issue. You are parroting almost exactly an article that came out a couple weeks ago...

Could you please provide a link to this article that I am "parroting," I honestly haven't seen widespread media coverage regarding some of the issues I raise. Apparently you are suggesting I have read one news article and now feel I truly grasp the pervasiveness of the industry; unfortunately for you, that is the furthest thing from the truth.
 
Pharmaceutical industry world is a lot more complex than it seems, and I suggest doing more research and thinking it through before making blanket statements. Pharma industry is not perfect, nothing is - but your argument has no depth to it, and it is disappointing when people just spout off what they hear in the media without thinking about it.

What is really disappointing is our industry "Mentor" calling one of our users disappointing because the user formed an educated opinion about pharmaceutical industry. The whole idea of "Mentor" is to promote and foster discussion, not squash it because the user disagrees with you.

And for the record, he makes some good points but I don't really agree with everything he is saying.
 
Actually, no, since I know them socially and have not discussed their positions with them, not having any interest in that myself. I am having a lunch with one colleague from clinical pharmacology later this month, if I can remember, I will ask her. From what little I recall, it is mostly planning Phase I trials, and a lot of project management, and also some travel to trial sites is required.

Yeah, that's what they are starting to call translational medicine....bridging pharmacological theory into clinical use. Honestly, that kinda sounds interesting....but I'd like to get into a role more involved in theory than outcomes.
 
Sounds as though you might be better off getting your PhD in Pharmacology. I've worked in the pharmacology/toxicology department at UB for almost a decade doing diabetes research. Our work doesn't exactly meet the classical definition of pharmacology as we do not really work with drugs per se. We work more with receptor agonists and antagonists, up/downregulating cellular pathways involving insulin secretion as well as a ton of work involving beta cell apoptosis and better transplant methods. I am also considering continuing research when I'm done...but I was also wondering what kind of research is typically done with a Pharm.D. Is clinical research typically drug trials and things of that nature?
 
To get back on track, I'm going to throw out a few links for you to glance at and you can tell me if these happen to satisfy what you may be looking for. I honestly think a Fellowship would be highly beneficial and useful in finding a career in pharmacology.

http://www.courses.ahc.umn.edu/pharmacy/6124/Fellowship_program/fellowship_description.htm


http://www.mdanderson.org/departmen...ayfull&pn=6d6e5c75-09b8-11d5-810c00508b603a14

And, a couple examples of Pharm.D.'s who do this stuff. If you work hard enough and train/learn hard enough, you already possess a degree that can lead to success in pharmacology, no need to get another one in my opinion:

http://www.mdanderson.org/departmen...ayfull&pn=bcf512c7-24ba-464c-b62521340eec2781

Pubmed this guy: http://www.mdanderson.org/departmen...ayfull&pn=4f3beece-b71c-40a8-9d02837edbbe0048

Actually I'll do it for you:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/e...l.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus (probably more than one RE Lewis, but most stuff on MIC's to fungal strains are him, and the recent editorial in CID regarding therapeutic drug monitoring of voriconazole (one of the most prestigious ID Medical journals mind you).

And finally, because I am a homer (you know this):

http://www.cop.ufl.edu/departments/PP/johnson/
 
I'll look into some of those links, thanks.

In addition, Rutgers has a HUGE fellowship program and Mercer is starting one that may be interesting. I'm aware that a few pharmacists are doing this type of thing. In fact at WVU, Dr. Petros is doing such research with a PharmD/fellowship. I just wonder how difficult it is to get into such jobs. The vast majority of people in the field have PhDs. I'm just afraid I'd get stuck working on crap I have no interest in like stage II/III clinical trials.

The one I'm most intrigued in is an oncology drug development fellowship that the national cancer institute runs. I like pharmacology...oncology is the only specialty that is genuinely interesting to me. It might be something to look into. The craptastic part is that all of these fellowships require a pharmacy practice residency. I honestly don't think I could make it through a year of clinical ****. I belong in a lab writing equations and **** on a wall, not in the fancy long labcoat following internal medicine teams around and memorizing guidelines. You know...why do you have to take physics to get into pharmacy school? Same concept. And, hell, that would be *4* freakin years, to boot. Hell, I may as well just get a PhD...
 
I'll look into some of those links, thanks.

In addition, Rutgers has a HUGE fellowship program and Mercer is starting one that may be interesting. I'm aware that a few pharmacists are doing this type of thing. In fact at WVU, ,,,

We are??? Clearly they aren't publicizing this to the PharmD students, because I don't know anything about it. Could you PM me a link and let me know who is involved with that? I'd be glad to give you my two cents worth on whatever prof is involved. We have a Dave and Busters about 5 miles from campus:)
 
I forget the details, I just remember it was with Solvay pharmaceuticals....and it was a fellowship.

OK - I have a very good friend who knows some people at Solvay- I'll get him to tell me what's going on there and let you know. Solvay seems to have a very good relationship with Mercer - I know that we have two PGY1 residents every year who do 1/2 the year at Mercer and 1/2 the year at Solvay, but they are drug information residents, not pharmacology.
 
Anybody ever heard of a job revolving around primarily pharmacology knowledge/application with a PharmD? As an example, when I was at Mylan, they hired Pharmacologists to do various things. One day a new case report came off the wire about a medication Mylan produces causing some bizarre side effect (I forget the specifics). His job was to more or less conjure up theoretical pathways by which said side effect might have come about and more or less figure out ways to deal with it.

That **** sounds cool as hell. I actually got in trouble for hanging out and just chatting away with him for 4 hours and neglecting my busy work.

Can a PharmD get into this? PharmD + fellowship experience required is cool, too...I'll cry and whine...but if I had to do it, i suppose I would. Actually biting my tongue and going for a PhD in Pharmacology would be something I'm not sure I'd actually go through with. I'm tired of being in academia as is....I'm not sure I can handle another 5+ years. I might go (more) crazy.

Comments?

Hey, anything is possible with the right spin on it. I would say it would depend on the job, the duties of the job, your skills, and who you know. Rather than a PhD in pharmacology, maybe an MS in something like phamacokinetics or MS in pharmacology or something. A PharmD + MS should be enough for most basic pharmacology jobs. If you're looking for pure academic research, the PHD is necessary, but if you're looking for clinical work, it's all on how you sell yourself and what you have to offer.

Another option is getting a master's in research design or clinical or biomed research. A lot of schools offer this type of program and it's usually full-time (2 years) or part-time and spread out. After pharm school, it should be a breeze.
 
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