Price transparency enforcement starts next week for Colorado hospitals

[Chartreuse Wombat]

Price transparency enforcement starts next week for Colorado hospitals | Subscriber Content | gazette.com

"Beginning on Wednesday, hospitals in Colorado will be prohibited from pursuing debt collections against patients if the hospitals aren’t in compliance with federal price transparency laws."

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[medgator]

Politically, can't think of a more perfect state in the union than Colorado. A great blend of policies from across the political spectrum

 

[Ray D. Ayshun]

Politically, can't think of a more perfect state in the union than Colorado.

hmmmmmm.

 

[medgator]

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hmmmmmm.

Should be decriminalized, still think it should be regulated however, probably more so than alcohol or cannibis

 

[TheWallnerus]

Why do we even have price transparency

Which politician got that whole thing started

 

[medgator]

Why do we even have price transparency

Which politician got that whole thing started

I'll take the bait, broken clock and all

Trump Administration Announces Historic Price Transparency Requirements to Increase Competition and Lower Healthcare Costs for All Americans | CMS

As directed by President Trump’s Executive Order on Improving Price and Quality Transparency in American Healthcare, today the Department of Health and Human Services is announcing that the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) is issuing two rules that take historic steps to increase...

www.cms.gov

 

[TheWallnerus]

I'll take the bait

Trump Administration Announces Historic Price Transparency Requirements to Increase Competition and Lower Healthcare Costs for All Americans | CMS

As directed by President Trump’s Executive Order on Improving Price and Quality Transparency in American Healthcare, today the Department of Health and Human Services is announcing that the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) is issuing two rules that take historic steps to increase...

www.cms.gov

Obamacare: yes
Trump Price Transparency:

 

[Chartreuse Wombat]

Related...

Compliance of National Cancer Institute–Designated Cancer Centers With January 2021 Price Transparency Requirements

This cross-sectional study investigates the compliance rate of hospitals with National Cancer Institute–designated cancer center status with the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services January 2021 price transparency requirements.

jamanetwork.com

"...fewer than one-third (20 of 63) were fully compliant with the current law."

 

[medgator]

Related...

Compliance of National Cancer Institute–Designated Cancer Centers With January 2021 Price Transparency Requirements

This cross-sectional study investigates the compliance rate of hospitals with National Cancer Institute–designated cancer center status with the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services January 2021 price transparency requirements.

jamanetwork.com

"...fewer than one-third (20 of 63) were fully compliant with the current law."

Speeding ticket level penalties don't impact behavior I'm guessing

Unless we are talking Finland or Switzerland

Opinion: the U.S. should implement income-based fines - The Utah Statesman

Opinion: the U.S. should implement income-based fines

usustatesman.com

For many of these NCI centers, the penalties just don't have much bite relative to the revenues these places are pulling in

 

[deleted1111261]

Should be decriminalized, still think it should be regulated however, probably more so than alcohol or cannibis

Why do you think that?

- deaths caused by psilocybin?
- health related risks of psilocybin?
- no health benefits from psilocybin?

The comparison to alcohol is … uh … terrible. If alcohol and tobacco is legal, pretty much anything should be legal.

What do you actually know about psilocybin vs the other drugs you mentioned? Just curious… appears to be some certainty about this that maybe I don’t know about?

 

[TheWallnerus]

Why do you think that?

- deaths caused by psilocybin?
- health related risks of psilocybin?
- no health benefits from psilocybin?

The comparison to alcohol is … uh … terrible. If alcohol and tobacco is legal, pretty much anything should be legal.

What do you actually know about psilocybin vs the other drugs you mentioned? Just curious… appears to be some certainty about this that maybe I don’t know about?

If we made alcohol and tobacco illegal there’d be half as many cancers

So let’s not go overboard

 

[medgator]

Why do you think that?

- deaths caused by psilocybin?
- health related risks of psilocybin?
- no health benefits from psilocybin?

The comparison to alcohol is … uh … terrible. If alcohol and tobacco is legal, pretty much anything should be legal.

What do you actually know about psilocybin vs the other drugs you mentioned? Just curious… appears to be some certainty about this that maybe I don’t know about?

Don't know much about it at all... Hence my caution. But I'm certainly willing to learn. Just worried about people going on trips before they get behind the wheel i guess but that's a concern with the others also

Certainly should be decriminalized like mary Jane at least, but many researchers and advocates I've read have said it should have some regulatory framework

Why some of Colorado’s foremost shrooms advocates won’t be voting to legalize psilocybin

To legalize or decriminalize? That would be the question facing Colorado voters if two competing psilocybin measures make the November ballot.

www.denverpost.com

 

[Fpg1245]

Price transparency enforcement starts next week for Colorado hospitals | Subscriber Content | gazette.com

"Beginning on Wednesday, hospitals in Colorado will be prohibited from pursuing debt collections against patients if the hospitals aren’t in compliance with federal price transparency laws."

It’s bull****. Price transparency is garbage. The patients can’t afford it and then insurers don’t want to pay.

Besides major credit agencies aren’t even using medical debt to factor into credit scores. It’s as if they want patients to give even less of a **** about medical bills. Good luck collecting anything from a patient ever

Payment upfront for elective cases is where this is heading. Followed by more out of pocket payment.

 

[medgator]

Payment upfront for elective cases is where this is heading. Followed by more out of pocket payment.

Quite common around here, esp with commercial plans putting out huge OOP deductibles before the insurance will pay anything towards a bill. Less of an issue with Medicare where 80% is coming from the govt

 

[jondunn]

health insurance companies already exist as essentially banks. their job is to leverage capital on the market - they just need to have as much of peoples money as they can, even if they pay most of it out for health care expenditure. as long as they can have it long enough they can invest it in high dividend fashion.

they should take this farther and buy and sell medical debt like a commodity.

 

[deleted1111261]

Don't know much about it at all... Hence my caution. But I'm certainly willing to learn. Just worried about people going on trips before they get behind the wheel i guess but that's a concern with the others also

Alcohol is the winner when it comes to driving fatalities and injuries…

 

[RickyScott]

health insurance companies already exist as essentially banks. their job is to leverage capital on the market - they just need to have as much of peoples money as they can, even if they pay most of it out for health care expenditure. as long as they can have it long enough they can invest it in high dividend fashion.

they should take this farther and buy and sell medical debt like a commodity.

The most common form of “insurance” is when the insurer just takes a transaction fee and the employer pays the bill. That’s why insurance companies love high prices as much as hospitals.

The worst actors are the hospitals, our employers. Number 2 is the drug companies.

 

[RickyScott]

Alcohol is the winner when it comes to driving fatalities and injuries…

And murders- something like 50%