Podiatry in East Coast

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hi i wanted to know if any podiatrist from the nyc area could comment on the job outlook there? What the average salary of a associate pod is there and job opportunities. I have a 2.8 gpa/pending mcat and I am looking at nycpm. Also how much can a private practice owner make in nyc ?

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Do you want to make less than a teacher or a cop does but still want to be called “doctor”?

If so, a NYC associate job is for you!
 
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hi i wanted to know if any podiatrist from the nyc area could comment on the job outlook there? What the average salary of a associate pod is there and job opportunities. I have a 2.8 gpa/pending mcat and I am looking at nycpm. Also how much can a private practice owner make in nyc ?
Atrocious. Scope of practice bad, mega saturation, residency programs there average *at best*, etc….

Wild guess for average salary: 80k + 10 days PTO + generous $50 Starbucks gift card for Xmas bonus.
 
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NYC is the worst for podiatry, man. I almost thinking your account is a joke... but if it's a serious question, NYC is bad. The vast majority of people who do residency there do it as a 5th, 10th, 29th, etc option.

Other east coast (Miami, Boston, Balt, Phila, DC, etc) are not too much better. There are the rare successful docs, but it's dog-eat-dog. Sky is the limit, but the odds are not in your favor. Cost of living for those places is high and incomes are below average for podiatry due to saturation. East coast is also pretty anti-podiatry (ortho and MDs in general) compared to other places in USA.

Podiatry's getting saturated nearly everywhere, but NYC is absolutely one of the worst... many (not good) residencies pumping out DPMs, old podiatry school that has been making pods for 100+ years, many practicing docs in NYC, much fraud. Do some shadowing and see for yourself... best way to see if shadow a few podiatry docs.

You can message diabeticfootdoctor... he did residency in New York and made quite a lot of money during his residency - just not in the usual way podiatry residents do.
 
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should i do a post bac to raise the gpa? if so, how does the post bac work do i take more bio classes at a CC? I also was looking into a Masters program but not sure if that is better than retaking classes. My pre req gpa is above 3.0 but my overall science and cumulative is around 2.8
 
should i do a post bac to raise the gpa? if so, how does the post bac work do i take more bio classes at a CC? I also was looking into a Masters program but not sure if that is better than retaking classes. My pre req gpa is above 3.0 but my overall science and cumulative is around 2.8
You will get accepted into podiatry school if you apply. Read the pre-pod forums.
Nearly everyone gets into podiatry school... most with a scholarship.
If you passed most/all undergrad classes, took the MCAT, can get approved for student loans, and can speak English fairly well... then you are in (I wish I was joking).

The podiatry schools would have taken 100 more students than they did this 2023 year, but they didn't get the applications.
The tuitions have gone up, the training gets same/longer with incomes roughly same, and they've opened new podiatry schools and seats.
The acceptance rate for podiatry is nearly 100%... just read the pre-pod forums. Sure, some students don't get into all of the podiatry schools as some will fill or get stronger apps than other schools, and some accepted choose to attend some other degree program instead. But yeah, do as well as you can on MCAT and do some podiatry shadowing, but podiatry school acceptance is sadly just not hard.

The challenge and uncertainty lies in podiatry success: graduating, doing well in pod school, and getting a good residency from the relatively limited few that exist in podiatry. Podiatry schools flunk out many students, and a lot of residency programs are just not very good. Think of pod school like Caribbean med school... easy to get in, still many pitfalls after you get in (flunk out, pass boards, do well in match, job income usually not great relative to USA grad MD/DOs, etc). Podiatry also has some of the problems of chiropractic or optometry (many low pay jobs, pretty saturated with docs out in practice, overlap with MD scope for some of the better parts of the job, etc). You will see this if you shadow... or even if you Google podiatrists in any area and compare density to other specialists (MDs, like orthopedic, ENT, cardiology, whatever).

If you want to potentially practice podiatry in NYC, do some shadowing. If you like it, then apply and get accepted. It usually makes sense to go wherever you get the lowest cost (tuition, housing/living, and considering any reasonably sustainable scholarship), but that's a personal call. Realize getting in is the easy part. Work hard in pod school, find mentors, pass boards, get the best residency you can anywhere (there are average at best ones in NY... most NYC are bottom of the barrel), and then go back there and try it. It will be a tough road... much competition and a ton of DPMs in NYC/NJ. There are easier paths, but some do well. :thumbup:
 
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In the infamous "Whither Podiatry" article, the author made mention that, at that time, 25% of all practicing podiatrists were in and around NYC
 
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We aren't breaking new ground here. The question that's interesting to me is - why does NYC still suck? Why has no one trained, improved, learned, gotten better through time? Why does the NYC trained attending in my town only do pus / tell the reps they received insufficient surgery training and yet we also hear they do unnecessary botched surgeries on people.

My guess.
1. Terrible culture / everyone ultimately becomes corrupt
2. No one ever retires
3. Saturation
4. Desperation to stay in NYC
5. Insufficient exchange of NYC / rest of country - no one else wants to be there.
6. The NY school is assuredly terrible.
7. Refusal of CPME to shut down residencies.
 
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can anyone share how much does the avg pod make in nyc? or as a owner?
 
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I'll never understand why people want to stay in NYC so badly.
 
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NYC is rough. I know one podiatrist who does well, but it's because he is a very, VERY good businessman with 7 offices and many associates who he openly admits that they aren't paid well due to the environment. HEAVILY saturated as previously mentioned.

I'll never understand why people want to stay in NYC so badly.
I find it's because people either love the city, have family there, or both.
 
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Stay out of the northeast. Too much saturation, pods are out to get you, ortho hates you, and the mal practice climate out there is pretty bad. Pods will take money to lie and give a terrible evaluation of your work just so a case can be brought against you. NY, NJ, MA, CT are absolute trash places to work.
 
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can anyone share how much does the avg pod make in nyc? or as a owner?
As an owner it varies widely. I would say net income for a solo PP owner is $75,000 on low end up to $500,000 on high end.
 
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As an owner it varies widely. I would say net income for a solo PP owner is $75,000 on low end up to $500,000 on high end.
I would agree.

It can even be negative first year or two if an area that requires a lot of marketing and 'cold start' with few or no pts or big startup/buyout loan. It can also be over 500k for some solo, but that usually means heavy use of "grafts" or custom dme that will likely trigger audits. I have also seen it high via many cash services or OON surgery though (usually with associates in that case).

If owner has associates, sky's the limit (like any scalable biz).
 
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