Part-time Pharmacists are Ruining the Profession

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[PharmDstudent]

Because if the CVS on this street corner is closed a patient cant go to the Walgreens across the street or the CVS a couple miles away? Sorry, but every pharmacy doesn't have to be open 24/7.

Epipens? NTG? lf someone doesn't have one and they need one, I would hope they are being driven to a hospital for immediate care. Those aren't the kind of thing people suddenly run out of and go rushing to the pharmacy for when its urgent. If its not urgent then driving a few more miles isn't a big deal.

So when CVS puts your script on hold and they don't open the next day, is another pharmacist obligated to fill the script without getting a copy faxed over to them? No.

What happens when the patient needs a refill, but their pharmacy is closed? Is the pharmacist at the other pharmacy obligated to fill their script without a copy of the script? No.

The point is not for patients to have immediate-use medications administered in the pharmacy. Patients may or may not need their meds immediately, but the pharmacy needs to be open so that the patients can get access to the meds that they need in case they need them immediately following their visit to the pharmacy or whenever for that matter.

How is someone with emphysema or COPD suppose to drive around town looking for meds when they can hardly walk to their car???

 

[PharmDstudent]

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Don't be jealous. You're such an attention hog!

 

[azPharmD2B]

The point is not for patients to have immediate-use medications administered in the pharmacy. Patients may or may not need their meds immediately, but the pharmacy needs to be open so that the patients can get access to the meds that they need in case they need them immediately following their visit to the pharmacy or whenever for that matter.

How is someone with emphysema or COPD suppose to drive around town looking for meds when they can hardly walk to their car???

So now every pharmacy needs to be open 24/7 just in case someone needs something? Dear god man, you have fallen for the corporate doublespeak hook, line and sinker.

Heck, why don't we just have delivery pharmacists for all these people? In the sack with the missus and you're out of Viagra? Fear not, we can have a pharmacist there in 30 minutes or less with your refill! Back pain too bad to walk out to your car? The pharmacist will be there in 30 minutes or less and will even apply the first Fentanyl patch for you!

 

[Pharmavixen]

I think it's more of a matter of what goes around comes around. I would work crap shifts sometimes, and in turn the people I'm helping out will sometimes work crap shifts for me.

Really, though, this whole notion of part-timers hurting the profession is nothing more than simple-minded whining. The profession is hurt by people who do their jobs half-assed, or drink the Tussionex, or bill for imaginary prescriptions, or that ******* now thankfully in prison who was selling, like, D5W or NS as chemotherapy meds and pocketing the difference: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9502E2DA1230F93BA35755C0A9659C8B63

The profession is hurt by incompetence and criminal behaviour. Soccer moms are annoying but do no harm.

 

[PharmDstudent]

So now every pharmacy needs to be open 24/7 just in case someone needs something? Dear god man, you have fallen for the corporate doublespeak hook, line and sinker.

Heck, why don't we just have delivery pharmacists for all these people? In the sack with the missus and you're out of Viagra? Fear not, we can have a pharmacist there in 30 minutes or less with your refill! Back pain too bad to walk out to your car? The pharmacist will be there in 30 minutes or less and will even apply the first Fentanyl patch for you!

No. Pharmacies do not have to be open 24/7. They have to be open when they say they're going to be open. That's all.

We do deliveries to a couple of local nursing homes. The patients really appreciate it! Other pharmacies do deliveries too. Check out the bottom of the link. It says, "FREE DELIVERY is available Monday through Friday to a patient's home or office."

 

[azPharmD2B]

Really, though, this whole notion of part-timers hurting the profession is nothing more than simple-minded whining. The profession is hurt by people who do their jobs half-assed, or drink the Tussionex, or bill for imaginary prescriptions, or that ******* now thankfully in prison who was selling, like, D5W or NS as chemotherapy meds and pocketing the difference: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9502E2DA1230F93BA35755C0A9659C8B63

We had one of those jerkoffs doing that here in AZ. He was also convicted of insurance fraud for selling narcs that were reported destroyed due to flood damage from a broken water pipe. Grrrr

 

[PharmDstudent]

Really, though, this whole notion of part-timers hurting the profession is nothing more than simple-minded whining. The profession is hurt by people who do their jobs half-assed, or drink the Tussionex, or bill for imaginary prescriptions, or that ******* now thankfully in prison who was selling, like, D5W or NS as chemotherapy meds and pocketing the difference: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9502E2DA1230F93BA35755C0A9659C8B63

It's such a sick story. I'm still reading it...

 

[PharmDstudent]

It's such a sick story. I'm still reading it...

I finished the story, and it's sad. It truly is... I'm depressed now I hate to read that kinda of stuff, because the patients had no idea that they were being scammed like that. He took advantage of the sickest people day after day. I wonder if he even has a soul. My eyes started tearing a little bit

 

[tussionex]

(although I can tell you, as a mother you aren't supposed to admit that you don't find child-rearing 24/7 to be fullfilling)quote]


go ahead...admit it! we won't tell your kids!

i DONT have kids and dont WANT kids, because i know that nothing about raising a child is anything i would ever find fullfilling....my beef is less with the moms who work 2-3 days/week, have a set schedule, fullfill their obligations etc....i have a beef with the moms that have to come in late for this, or leave early for that, or never work weekends or night shifts. sure, one has to be commited to family, but you make a commitment to a profession, too...it's not like being a pharmacist is folding sweaters at the GAP!

 

[tussionex]

No one forces people to have children, just like no one forces people to go to work. They are personal choices. It's also a personal choice to do both.

With that said, when a person's job becomes second place to something else, that person needs to reprioritize. Perhaps they should be compromising with their work place so that both groups are satisfied. Regardless of employee personal circumstances, the employer needs the pharmacy to be appropriately staffed for optimal functioning.

I would get pretty irritated if a part-time employee would start missing work a lot and could get away with it, because she was a SAHM. I don't enjoy doing double work when an employee has commitment issues. It's one thing to be sick, and it's another thing to miss work for a soccer game.

 

[tussionex]

I finished the story, and it's sad. It truly is... I'm depressed now I hate to read that kinda of stuff, because the patients had no idea that they were being scammed like that. He took advantage of the sickest people day after day. I wonder if he even has a soul. My eyes started tearing a little bit

oh, and this guy....he deserves to burn in the fiery depths of hades!

 

[confettiflyer]

haha i like this thread, good reading.

I think the issue of covering shifts is prevalent in most every industry. Joe's not here today to weld? Bob will have to cover.

In this aspect, having more part-timers floating around increase your chances of patching holes in scheduling vs. if you have a few dedicated 40hr employees. Invariably, at least one part-time employee will want to earn some extra $$, so they can pick up the slack where necessary. Hopefully that act will be reciprocated when that pharmacist needs time off. If you have all full time staff...a fellow pharmacist has to go OT (when they might not want to), and you'll have to pay more due to the differential.

 

[PharmDstudent]

go ahead...admit it! we won't tell your kids!

i DONT have kids and dont WANT kids, because i know that nothing about raising a child is anything i would ever find fullfilling....my beef is less with the moms who work 2-3 days/week, have a set schedule, fullfill their obligations etc....i have a beef with the moms that have to come in late for this, or leave early for that, or never work weekends or night shifts. sure, one has to be commited to family, but you make a commitment to a profession, too...it's not like being a pharmacist is folding sweaters at the GAP!

It looks like it's just you and me Tussionex...

My "single" mom worked full-time while raising children. How is it that she was able to pull it off, but part-time pharmacists can't stay for the duration of their scheduled shift?

If I was sick on a school day and my mom had to work, I had two options: stay at home from the entire school day or call someone besides my mom and hope that they could pick me up from school. I was never allowed to call her at work either unless it was, without a doubt, an *emergency*. I still can't call her at work , because she's probably talking to someone else via 411 (hint hint).

I used to see pharmacists talking to their kids during peak hours when I worked at the hospital. Who gives a crap if little Johnnie just said "Cheerio" for the first time??? It's not the end of the world to miss a few moments in your child's life, but it can really bring down workplace morale when you're distracted a lot at work.

My mom had to go to work, because she was working full-time at $8-15/hr. She didn't have the luxury to clock-out early, because she was making $45/hr as a pharmacist and had already made $315 for working 7 out of the 8 hours that she was scheduled

If pharmacists made $8-15/hr, I highly doubt there would be as many part-timers with commitment issues.
Part-time technicians have to fight for hours in retail. If they have a boss who looks out for his students/techs like I do, then he'll always have a P4 student around who will free up hours after they graduate. Hopefully I can work full-time this summer (unlike last summer when I could only work ~15/hr for the other "man").

 

[loo]

You make some good points.

We have "problem pharmacists" who constantly ask for banker hours and then don't lift a finger to help cover other shifts. I simply refuse to pick up their shift.

Curiously, this subset of RPh's seem to have an attitude of entitlement and lack of work ethic to boot.

This does not apply to every part-timer, just those fulltimers who use their kids as a built-in excuse for everything.

I think there needs to be more emphasis/options for childcare services, so parents/parent can work without worrying about how they're gonna deal with the kids. It would be nice for corporations to share the expense as well.

 

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Retail pharmacists are ruining the profession.

 

[PharmDstudent]

Retail pharmacists are ruining the profession.

Old, male DOP pharmacists are ruining the profession.

Seriously... what's the actual argument? How is this the case when retail pharmacists started the profession way back when? Explain yourself Master Po.

 

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Old, male DOP pharmacists are ruining the profession.

Seriously... what's the actual argument? How is this the case when retail pharmacists started the profession way back when? Explain yourself Master Po.

I don't have to have an argument. If I say something, it's written in stone. Cuz I be the Masta.

 

[SexyPlexi]

I heard that the end of the world is in the year 2012

Does that mean I am not going to graduate pharmacy school?!? Welp...guess I'll quit trying then.

 

[PharmDstudent]

I don't have to have an argument. If I say something, it's written in stone. Cuz I be the Masta.

Excuse me (PharmD does curtsey bow)...

that must have slipped my mind for a second.