Oklahoma pharmacist kills armed robber, saves the lives of his staff

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Oklahoma pharmacist kills armed robber, saves the lives of his staff

A little before 6:00 p.m., last Tuesday, two armed men rushed into the Reliable Discount Pharmacy in Oklahoma City, and demanded money and drugs. The store had been robbed two years earlier, a robbery in which the store’s employees had been forced into a back room and severely beaten.

However, this time the store had a security system with doors armed with magnetic locks, which could only be opened from the inside. The masked-men apparently knew this and waited for someone to exit, at which time they pushed a board in front of the closing door and rushed into the pharmacy.

Once inside, they demanded all of the cash and narcotics, two female technicians ran into the back room. But the pharmacist, Jerome Ersland who wears a large back brace, and is still recovering from recent surgery, could not run. But he could defend himself.

The robbers began shooting at him, with one bullet grazing him on the arm, he said he heard another round whiz past his ear.

Ersland recalled: "All of a sudden, they started shooting. They were attempting to kill me, but they didn’t know I had a gun. They said, ‘You’re gonna die.’ That’s when one of them shot at me, and that’s when he got my hand.”

Ersland grabbed the semi-automatic Kel-Tec .380 in his pocket.

"And that’s when I started defending myself,” he said. "The first shot got him in the head, and that slowed him down so I could get my other gun.”

Ersland also kept a much larger pistol in a nearby drawer, which he was able to retrieve, a Taurus Judge revolver. At that point, the second robber took off. However, the other robber was now getting up off of the floor, despite the head wound.

Ersland emptied his clip into the chest of the wounded robber, who turned out to be 16-year-old Antwun Parker.

"I went after the other guy, but he was real fast and I’m crippled,” said Ersland. Once outside, he saw a third black male sitting in a car with what appeared to be a shotgun.

Ersland said: "I pulled out my ‘Judge’ and pointed it right between his eyes and he floored it.”

Police arrested the man in the car which turned out to be stolen, after he crashed it a few blocks away. The other robber is still at large, he is described as a black male in his 20s, 5 feet, 7 inches tall, and weighing 175 pounds. The suspect was last seen wearing a red shirt and dark pants.

Ersland went back into the store and found his two technicians safe but shaken.

Ersland said: "I asked if the girls were all right, and they were in the back crying. I was glad to know they were alive. We were lucky and I’m glad I defended us, because I feel that a person has a right to defend themselves at their home or at their work. People deserve to be safe and not be afraid of people that want to take money when they don’t work for it.”

As if the attempted robbery was not enough, an angry black mob gathered outside the pharmacy later that night, shouting and accusing Ersland of being a racist because he had killed the teenaged thug, who was black.

"I just regret anybody would get killed. But if I wouldn’t have been here, there would have been three people killed — the other pharmacist and the two techs.”

"I was able to return fire and protect the girls’ lives. God was helping me.”

Here are a few facts about armed Americans:

-Armed citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as the police do every year in this country (1,527 to 606).

-A 1996 University of Chicago study concluded that states which passed concealed carry laws reduced their murder rates by 8.5 percent, rapes by 5 percent, aggravated assaults by 7 percent, and robbery by 3 percent.

-According to the National Safety Council, with guns being used 2.5 million times a year in self defense against criminals, firearms are actually used more than 80 times more often to protect lives, rather than to take lives.

-A 1979 Justice Department study concluded that of more than 32,000 attempted rapes, 32 percent were actually committed. But when a woman was armed with a gun or knife, only 3 percent of the attempted rapes were actually committed.

-Another Justice Department study found that 57 percent of felons agreed that “criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running the police.”

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p-3at...nice gun for self-defense...which gives him enough time to get his Taurus judge...jesus h christ...dude wasn't f'n around.
 
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As if the attempted robbery was not enough, an angry black mob gathered outside the pharmacy later that night, shouting and accusing Ersland of being a racist because he had killed the teenaged thug, who was black.

"I just regret anybody would get killed. But if I wouldn’t have been here, there would have been three people killed — the other pharmacist and the two techs.”

"I was able to return fire and protect the girls’ lives. God was helping me.”

Here are a few facts about armed Americans:

-Armed citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as the police do every year in this country (1,527 to 606).

-A 1996 University of Chicago study concluded that states which passed concealed carry laws reduced their murder rates by 8.5 percent, rapes by 5 percent, aggravated assaults by 7 percent, and robbery by 3 percent.

-According to the National Safety Council, with guns being used 2.5 million times a year in self defense against criminals, firearms are actually used more than 80 times more often to protect lives, rather than to take lives.

-A 1979 Justice Department study concluded that of more than 32,000 attempted rapes, 32 percent were actually committed. But when a woman was armed with a gun or knife, only 3 percent of the attempted rapes were actually committed.

-Another Justice Department study found that 57 percent of felons agreed that “criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running the police.”


How typical.....
 
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Has the APhA ever released statistics concerning crimes committed against pharmacists/pharmacies? I wonder how many armed robbery attempts there are a year.
 
wow, first shot head shot while someone was firing at him. If that guy is half as good as a pharmacist as he is at shooting, his patients are in good hands.
 
a pharmacist who carries a gun into work? altho it saved the day, i find that a bit disturbing that he had a gun in his pocket at work.
 
So, the angry black mob that accused him of being a racist....

a) Is it typical to see such demonstrations of unfathomable stupidity??

b) Are they completely oblivious to the irony of their protest?
 
a pharmacist who carries a gun into work? altho it saved the day, i find that a bit disturbing that he had a gun in his pocket at work.
 
a pharmacist who carries a gun into work? altho it saved the day, i find that a bit disturbing that he had a gun in his pocket at work.


Why? They've been robbed before? So for the sake of not disturbing you they should just be robbed and shot and not defend themselves? Give me a F***kin break.
 
What's disturbing is that people use gun to rob others and shoot them.
What's also disturbing is that people are disturbed by self defending citizens and professionals with a gun instead of being disturbed by criminals.

DISTURBING!!!!
 
As if the attempted robbery was not enough, an angry black mob gathered outside the pharmacy later that night, shouting and accusing Ersland of being a racist because he had killed the teenaged thug, who was black.

...after which, they proceded inside the pharmacy to demand early refills on their Medicaid-paid Vico-Dans and Somas.
 
Good job pharmacist!

And those protesters who were outside are ignorant racists that need to get lives/jobs/education.
 
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a pharmacist who carries a gun into work? altho it saved the day, i find that a bit disturbing that he had a gun in his pocket at work.

..............................

Apparently, that gun saved his damn life

Which makes me worried working in a GHETTO environment in downtown D.C........I need a gun myself

But really, that is an amazing story. And props to the state and his chain to allow him to self-defend himself.
 
a pharmacist who carries a gun into work? altho it saved the day, i find that a bit disturbing that he had a gun in his pocket at work.
why? I have heard from a few pharmacists that have admitted to carrying a gun at work for this reason. I hate to tell you but if more peopleever get smart, you'll get richer for hitting up a drug store then a 7-11
 
..............................

Apparently, that gun saved his damn life

Which makes me worried working in a GHETTO environment in downtown D.C........I need a gun myself

But really, that is an amazing story. And props to the state and his chain to allow him to self-defend himself.

You never have to worry when you have The Judge....

http://www.taurususa.com/whatsnew/revolvers.cfm
 
I'll just carry a deagle around in my pockets. :D

Completely useless gun. Some skinny city boy'll shoot that thing once, the recoil will make his arms flail all over the place...meanwhile, the robber has fired 9 rounds into your chest from his much more sensible 9mm by the time you recover and line your sights up again.
 
I try to steer clear of issues of race, politics, and religion, BUT...

I am appalled that a mob actually protested at this pharmacy. I am black, and I do not think that the color of your skin gives you the right to take leave of your senses. For goodness' sake, the robbers tried to kill an injured person! Is that not enough to evoke shame and revulsion? Was the pharmacist just supposed to stand there?

If anyone tried to kill me and I am able to defend myself, I will do so, and skin color would be the last thing on my mind. To call this racism is ridiculous.
 
I try to steer clear of issues of race, politics, and religion, BUT...

I am appalled that a mob actually protested at this pharmacy. I am black, and I do not think that the color of your skin gives you the right to take leave of your senses. For goodness' sake, the robbers tried to kill an injured person! Is that not enough to evoke shame and revulsion? Was the pharmacist just supposed to stand there?

If anyone tried to kill me and I am able to defend myself, I will do so, and skin color would be the last thing on my mind. To call this racism is ridiculous.
as alexander hamilton so succintly stated it when founding this great country: "the masses are asses"

it is impossible for people in the lay public to use common sense.
 
GOOD FOR THIS GUY!!!! I bet he doesn't get robbed again!

If everyone in this country were armed we would have a much more peaceful and respectful society and lower crime rates.

Guns do not kill people. Bad guys with guns with kill people. 99% of the time there are using guns that were purchased illegally off the black market. Properly trained and licensed citizens with guns are not a problem. Every state that has passed a concealed carry law has seen a decrease in crime.

His choice of weapon was not the best. A Kel-Tec .380 is a nice LOOKING gun that appears to be perfect for concealed carry. The sell all these cool holsters for you ankle ect. The problem is the stopping power of a .380 is very poor. As demonstrated by his first shot hitting the robber in the head and he was still able to get up. All a .380 will do is make someone mad if you shoot them. I understand you need to carry something easy to conceal and is comfortable but this pistol is only slightly better than carrying a rock to throw at someone.

For concealed carry I would not carry less than a .45. Kimber, Wilson and Smith and Wesson make very good .45 caliber concealed carry pistols. I assure you if you hit a bad guy in the head with a .45 he will not be getting up.
 
GOOD FOR THIS GUY!!!! I bet he doesn't get robbed again!

If everyone in this country were armed we would have a much more peaceful and respectful society and lower crime rates.

Guns do not kill people. Bad guys with guns with kill people. 99% of the time there are using guns that were purchased illegally off the black market. Properly trained and licensed citizens with guns are not a problem. Every state that has passed a concealed carry law has seen a decrease in crime.

His choice of weapon was not the best. A Kel-Tec .380 is a nice LOOKING gun that appears to be perfect for concealed carry. The sell all these cool holsters for you ankle ect. The problem is the stopping power of a .380 is very poor. As demonstrated by his first shot hitting the robber in the head and he was still able to get up. All a .380 will do is make someone mad if you shoot them. I understand you need to carry something easy to conceal and is comfortable but this pistol is only slightly better than carrying a rock to throw at someone.

For concealed carry I would not carry less than a .45. Kimber, Wilson and Smith and Wesson make very good .45 caliber concealed carry pistols. I assure you if you hit a bad guy in the head with a .45 he will not be getting up.


Psssh, whatever. He obviously grazed him in the head. A 9mm to the skull would kill anyone. This isn't Hollywood. That gun is sweet, btw. Ultra-compact, freakishly accurate. And we're talking about a concealed weapon. Who the hell is going to walk around with a Glock two-one under their labcoat all day?
 
What I find surprising is the fact that they decided to shoot him. I mean, I would have just allowed them to walk in and take everything. As a matter of fact, I would have packed their bags for them and escorted them out the door.

But the fact that they decided to shoot him is scary.
 
Psssh, whatever. He obviously grazed him in the head. A 9mm to the skull would kill anyone. This isn't Hollywood. That gun is sweet, btw. Ultra-compact, freakishly accurate. And we're talking about a concealed weapon. Who the hell is going to walk around with a Glock two-one under their labcoat all day?

Wrong my boy...except the part about Hollywood. Real life certainly is not Hollywood.

Have you shot the Keltec? It’s not bad. I thought the recoil would be worse and yes it was decently accurate at the range. Here in lies the problem. Most concealed carry holders couldn't consistently hit the 9 and 10 ring on an official NRA rapid-fire pistol target even if they tried all day. Imagine what would happen during a stressful life or death situation. Hitting this guy in the head was likely a lucky shot or he was very close. If you have any experience with weapons, concealed carry, or instructing (I do you) you would never recommend the Keltec. In fact for most people for home protection I recommend staying away from pistols and going with a shotgun. For personal carry I recommend something with a high enough caliber that if you get lucky enough to hit someone it has the greatest chance of putting then down.

True story, 4 years ago in Colorado Springs. Two police officers had a suspected robber corned after a long foot chase. It appeared the suspect was drawing something from his pocket. Both officers had 9mm pistols with 16 round high capacity magazines. From approximately 15 feet both officers drew their weapons and fired all 16 rounds plus the one in the chamber for a total of 37 rounds. Wanna guess how many times they hit the guy? ZERO! Not one round hit the suspect. This was 2 highly trained police officers from 15 feet with 37 rounds. The suspect did have a cut on his arm that they determined was from a piece of concrete that ricochet off the ground.

My point is most people, including trained police officers, end up just pointing the weapon and pulling the trigger. A .380 or 9 mm round to the torso, leg or arm might not be enough to stop a determined and aggresive bad guy. A .45 caliber round usually ruins most peoples day, regardless of where they are hit.

Kimber makes a very light weight conceled carry .45. It is quite comfortable to carry. I know because I have carried one before. I would not be caught in a life or death situation with a Keltec....IMHO of course.
 
Dude, whatever. :rolleyes:

I do agree about shotguns being the best thing you can have on you. I own a mossberg 500. But...again...you can't conceal that.
 
Hmm. Do you think that's the whole story?

I had a look at the story on Free Republic, and I have my doubts. It's all based on the word of the pharmacist, undoubtedly more trustworthy than the average human, but still, the police say this:
Because of the sensitive nature of the investigation, police said they could not confirm any of Ersland’s story, including whether Ersland was shot, whether the robbers ever fired on him or even if Parker was armed. On Thursday, police were still looking for the second robber, described as a black man in his 20s, about 5 feet, 7 inches tall, and weighing about 175 pounds. The man was last seen wearing a red shirt and dark pants.

A man was arrested about a block away after crashing a stolen car that fit the description Ersland gave, but police said the man has not been linked to the robbery.
I worked at a store that got robbed 3 times in 6 months. Generally, they just want your Oxycontin, money, etc. and get the hell out of there. And I've worked with drug addicts for a number of years. Most of them just want their fix and are not going to randomly start shooting unless someone starts shooting at them first.

And I've worked in a jail for the past twelve years. Not saying it's totally not true, but I know criminals and I know drug addicts. And this story just sounds a bit weird.
 
Kimber makes a very light weight conceled carry .45. It is quite comfortable to carry. I know because I have carried one before. I would not be caught in a life or death situation with a Keltec....IMHO of course.

I had one of the early production Keltec 9's with a drop-in .40S&W. Too many FTE for carry, which was a shame since it was such a light carry.

Settled for a Glock 27 with Kydex IWB holster or S&W Airweight for pocket carry. Heavier but they go boom every time you pull the trigger.

Haven't looked at guns for a while but wondering if there's a single stack .40 or .45 polymer semi out there that's perfect. Thought about the Kahr but last I heard they only make full metal frame guns.
 
I had one of the early production Keltec 9's with a drop-in .40S&W. Too many FTE for carry, which was a shame since it was such a light carry.

Settled for a Glock 27 with Kydex IWB holster or S&W Airweight for pocket carry. Heavier but they go boom every time you pull the trigger.

Haven't looked at guns for a while but wondering if there's a single stack .40 or .45 polymer semi out there that's perfect. Thought about the Kahr but last I heard they only make full metal frame guns.

Springfield XD 45 ACP Compact. It has a 4-inch barrell with a shortened grip frame for easier carry. Its light weight and shoots awsome. I have an XD 45 in the standard version, one of my favorites to shoot.
 
Springfield XD 45 ACP Compact. It has a 4-inch barrell with a shortened grip frame for easier carry. Its light weight and shoots awsome. I have an XD 45 in the standard version, one of my favorites to shoot.

Having shot Glocks, I'd probably stay in the Glock family. I don't know how much more I'd get switching from a .40S&W to a .45ACP, but the single stack GLOCK 36 sounds interesting. Maybe someday.
 
All pharmacies should be equipped with one of these bad boys.

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Personally, my favorite pistol is the H&K USP .45
 
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Having shot Glocks, I'd probably stay in the Glock family. I don't know how much more I'd get switching from a .40S&W to a .45ACP, but the single stack GLOCK 36 sounds interesting. Maybe someday.

I have a Glock Model 22 .40S&W. I never really fell in love with the Glock. They are nice pistols but its not my favorite to shoot. Trigger feel is very important to me. The safety in the middle of the trigger bugs the hell out of me. Of course the Springfield XD has a trigger safety but it is designed different and does not bother me as much.
 
Completely useless gun. Some skinny city boy'll shoot that thing once, the recoil will make his arms flail all over the place...meanwhile, the robber has fired 9 rounds into your chest from his much more sensible 9mm by the time you recover and line your sights up again.

Ah, but see, if aimed correctly the deagle is able to do 60 dmg and kill someone in 2 hits, piercing armor. Usually a 1 shot kill if hit in the head, regardless of whether the assailant is wearing a helmet.

Betcha didn't know that.

But seriously, if they were shooting at me? And the guy outside had a shotgun? I'd do the same damn thing if I were in his shoes; seems like it wasn't the first store these bozos robbed. He risked his life defending the store and co-workers, they risked their lives trying to rob the guy... 2 against 1 and they lose!... pretty much got what they deserved.

If you don't wanna catch a bullet to the head, maybe you shouldn't go around robbing people with guns...
 
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As a concealed weapon permit holder and gun advocate, I applaud that Pharmacist. Your everyday, law-biding citizen shouldn't be afraid of criminals...criminals should be afraid of us.

And people wonder why our nations' most liberal, anti-gun right's states' have the worst crime rates...
 
I actually have 2. His and hers.

9mm are nice pistols. I used to have a Taurs PT92 which is an exact copy of the Beretta 92 pistol which is what the military uses. It was a very good shooter. I sold it because I wanted to keep all of my pistols in one caliber, .45. I wish I would have kept it. In the last 2 years .45 ammo has almost doubled in price. It takes the fun out of the range when eveytime I pull the trigger all I can think of is there goes 43 cents.
 
Hmm. Do you think that's the whole story?

I had a look at the story on Free Republic, and I have my doubts. It's all based on the word of the pharmacist, undoubtedly more trustworthy than the average human, but still, the police say this:

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I am sorry if you even try to commit robbery, you deserve to get shot, even if you don't have a gun.

I wonder if this article made a typo as it says they were stealing money and guns?

http://www.koco.com/news/19531910/detail.html

Bottom line, If you don't want to get killed don't walk into a pharmacy with ski masks.
 
Has the APhA ever released statistics concerning crimes committed against pharmacists/pharmacies? I wonder how many armed robbery attempts there are a year.

I know when I got robbed we notified the state board and the dea of the loss of meds. But if it is just an attempt and they don't get anything who gets notified. I heard many stories about pharmacies getting robbed and the pharmacist or tech telling them they are calling the police and get out of here, and they just turn around and run.

I am not sure the number of attempted robberies but I would guess over 1000 a year. Probably a lot more.

At least I have not heard of any pharmacists or techs getting killed, thank God.
 
I know when I got robbed we notified the state board and the dea of the loss of meds. But if it is just an attempt and they don't get anything who gets notified. I heard many stories about pharmacies getting robbed and the pharmacist or tech telling them they are calling the police and get out of here, and they just turn around and run.

I am not sure the number of attempted robberies but I would guess over 1000 a year. Probably a lot more.

At least I have not heard of any pharmacists or techs getting killed, thank God.

I think it happens quite a bit. About two months ago an independant, a few miles from my store, got robbed and the pharmacist was shot. A friend of mine from pharmacy schoool works overnights and was robbed and beaten a month ago.
 
Hmm. Do you think that's the whole story?

I had a look at the story on Free Republic, and I have my doubts. It's all based on the word of the pharmacist, undoubtedly more trustworthy than the average human, but still, the police say this:

I worked at a store that got robbed 3 times in 6 months. Generally, they just want your Oxycontin, money, etc. and get the hell out of there. And I've worked with drug addicts for a number of years. Most of them just want their fix and are not going to randomly start shooting unless someone starts shooting at them first.

And I've worked in a jail for the past twelve years. Not saying it's totally not true, but I know criminals and I know drug addicts. And this story just sounds a bit weird.


So.... what if the whole story entails pharmacist shooting first? Should he get the death penalty?
 
Think we've heard similar story before? Pharmacist chasing intruder into the parking lot and shooting them in the back?


Yup...little rock, Arkansas. He ended up working at a hospital I'm very familiar with.
 
That gun has nothing on my battery operated water gun arsenal.


I pity the fool who tries to mess with this gun:

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:smuggrin:

But seriously, good job pharmacist in the story! I, too, believe people have a right to defend themselves.
 
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