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Great, this gives me a lot of idea where to start from. Thank you so much.
Hi Dr.Spee,
Sorry about the result. I am in similar situation. Looking for study partner.
Please reply to [email protected].
I think that no matter what study strategy you use (MKSAP, MedStudy, Awesome Review, whatever), you need to start with a pre-test to figure out where you're weakest and what to focus on. I only used the MKSAP questions so I don't know if this is something other Q banks have but the online version allowed you to create custom exams. So I made a custom exam out of every subject area containing 10-20% of the total # of questions and if I scored >75%, I set that aside to focus on later. Sections I did poorly on (<50%) got the full MKSAP chapter thrown at it. Those I did between 50 and 75% got the BB3 treatment. I then created 60 question random exams until I got through the whole Q bank.That makes a lot of sense, do you think I should change anything to be honest I feel I didn't study well if you read my earlier post. The review coarse was too fast paced for me I was able to do his notes only twice. I was thinking of doing the whole of MKSAP 16 questions, Board Basic, another question bank like Medstudy or NEJM and repetition. any takes on that? I don't think I can take another review coarse.
I think that no matter what study strategy you use (MKSAP, MedStudy, Awesome Review, whatever), you need to start with a pre-test to figure out where you're weakest and what to focus on. I only used the MKSAP questions so I don't know if this is something other Q banks have but the online version allowed you to create custom exams. So I made a custom exam out of every subject area containing 10-20% of the total # of questions and if I scored >75%, I set that aside to focus on later. Sections I did poorly on (<50%) got the full MKSAP chapter thrown at it. Those I did between 50 and 75% got the BB3 treatment. I then created 60 question random exams until I got through the whole Q bank.
TL;DR - Test your baseline knowledge (and gaps) first. Study for the gaps because that's where the money is.
I think it's even more important for first time test takers, in order to prevent becoming 2nd time test takers.That's true, once I get the score report I will see the weak areas and also do the MKSAP pretty test!
Thanks!!!
I think it's even more important for first time test takers, in order to prevent becoming 2nd time test takers.
My strategy:
1. Go over BB3 highlight the important stuff
2. Memorize those important stuff
3. Do MKSAP 15 and 16 questions without taking notes
4. Repeat 2, and 3 every day (total BB3 highlights x10, MKSAP 15 x1, MKSAP 16x1 complete 100% score 57% correct)
Result: passed
Foreign graduate, mid tier residency program. Not intelligent like the rest of you but more hard-working than most of my co-residents.
The theme has always worked for me throughout medical school, step 1,2, & 3 is to stick with one source and know it well.
Thanks MG78. Sheesh, 3 months to release results, 1 month to mail them!! When I received the pass/fail notification, it said if score report not in by the 27th, to let them know. I thought that meant we'd get it way earlier than that. Crappy service for the 1400$ it costs. Probably just using it to try out stupid new sputum/hair/aura scanners or whatever.Me too, haven't received yet. last year they released it on the 10/21
Really glad to have found this board. I failed the exam this year and have been really down. Reading through some of these posts is motivating. I know for myself I took it way too lightly. All I did was cram MKSAP books and the qbank in the last month. Knew I failed as soon as I left the exam.... no question about it.
Taking the advice of some of you here, I will take some time off before starting studying. I have, however, laid out my plan.
- Board Basics (primary source) - given to me by a friend.
- MKSAP books (already have them... will use as reference)
- MKSAP qbank - already have it
- Knowmedge qbank - took advantage of the $100 coupon.
- UWorld qbank - will get this probably spring time.
I will also register for Awesome review...probably in early spring time.
Hopefully that will be enough. If anyone has any other suggestions.... I am open to any ideas! Really do not want to fail again. Thank you for this board and for everyone's post. Really helpful.
Really glad to have found this board. I failed the exam this year and have been really down. Reading through some of these posts is motivating. I know for myself I took it way too lightly. All I did was cram MKSAP books and the qbank in the last month. Knew I failed as soon as I left the exam.... no question about it.
Taking the advice of some of you here, I will take some time off before starting studying. I have, however, laid out my plan.
- Board Basics (primary source) - given to me by a friend.
- MKSAP books (already have them... will use as reference)
- MKSAP qbank - already have it
- Knowmedge qbank - took advantage of the $100 coupon.
- UWorld qbank - will get this probably spring time.
I will also register for Awesome review...probably in early spring time.
Hopefully that will be enough. If anyone has any other suggestions.... I am open to any ideas! Really do not want to fail again. Thank you for this board and for everyone's post. Really helpful.
Really glad to have found this board. I failed the exam this year and have been really down. Reading through some of these posts is motivating. I know for myself I took it way too lightly. All I did was cram MKSAP books and the qbank in the last month. Knew I failed as soon as I left the exam.... no question about it.
Taking the advice of some of you here, I will take some time off before starting studying. I have, however, laid out my plan.
- Board Basics (primary source) - given to me by a friend.
- MKSAP books (already have them... will use as reference)
- MKSAP qbank - already have it
- Knowmedge qbank - took advantage of the $100 coupon.
- UWorld qbank - will get this probably spring time.
I will also register for Awesome review...probably in early spring time.
Hopefully that will be enough. If anyone has any other suggestions.... I am open to any ideas! Really do not want to fail again. Thank you for this board and for everyone's post. Really helpful.
Hi - There's a coupon for the Knowmedge qbank .... different than the NEJM Knowledge qbank.I have the same story crammed at the last min.... have pretty much the same plan as yours except I will be doing the Awesome notes will NOT take the coarse, I did the Unique coarse and figured the coarse thing is just not for me. Just wanted to ask you how did you manage to get the $100 coupon foe the NEJM Knowledge is there a way to get it?? I want to buy the qbank. I would also add Medstudy flash cards to the plan.
Good luck!
Anyone check your mail today?
You have no idea! it makes me mad every day that I DON'T see the score report in my mailbox. Neanderthals!Been checking my mail everyday. Mailman actually thinks I'm stalking him.
Wait, maybe the reason why ABIM hasn't mailed the score reports is because they are running out of funds. They are lacking money to buy enough stamps to send out the score reports of the people who took it this year, the year before, and the year before that, and so on.
You have no idea! it makes me mad every day that I DON'T see the score report in my mailbox. Neanderthals!
As much as it is difficult not to get frustrated at ABIM's unknown system (of scoring, determining passing rates, and time to send out reports), I urge you not to be mad. When I think of my failing this year's exam, I think of all my patients who have learned they have GBM or metastatic breast CA at age 40. I then begin to realize that failing an exam is nothing compared to what other people are going through. Life goes on. We can do this.
"Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - W. Churchill
No, it's just that it cost us boatloads of money to take the test...it's criminal, and why can it NOT be like the USMLE where you get an e-score report. It is unacceptable really in this day and age.As much as it is difficult not to get frustrated at ABIM's unknown system (of scoring, determining passing rates, and time to send out reports), I urge you not to be mad. When I think of my failing this year's exam, I think of all my patients who have learned they have GBM or metastatic breast CA at age 40. I then begin to realize that failing an exam is nothing compared to what other people are going through. Life goes on. We can do this.
"Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - W. Churchill
No, it's just that it cost us boatloads of money to take the test...it's criminal, and why can it NOT be like the USMLE where you get an e-score report. It is unacceptable really in this day and age.
As for those unfortunate patients, trust me, every single time I see a 30-40 yr old with cancer/lupus/CKD, it breaks my heart a little - we all should probably stop practicing medicine when that sort of stuff stops affecting us.
Hi - There's a coupon for the Knowmedge qbank .... different than the NEJM Knowledge qbank.
To get the coupon code, you have to simply email them your result: http://knowmedge.com/blog/abim-internal-medicine-board-exam-results-2014/
The Medstudy flashcards is a good idea... thank you! I'll add those as well.
Good luck to you as well - hopefully we're both posting here 1 year from now with passing scores!
Thanks for the link to the coupon, I didn't know about the Knowledge, Q bank I thought its the same as NEJM. Have you heard about the NEJM qbank a lot have recommended that to me so I was thinking of getting that what do you recommend knowledge or NEJM?
Any of you guys has anyone else had good experience with these 2 qbanks what would you guys recommend????
I hope so too and am positive that we will succeed next year positive thoughts and vibes only.
nothing today!!! this is crazyAnyone check your mail today?
I'm an R3 and just getting started with ABIM 2015 prep. My program does a lot of MKSAP in noon conf and sometimes morning report. Lot of useful info but I'm concerned MKSAP's not very board-focused. More of a reference for when I'm actually practicing as an attending. Anyone have suggestions for non-MKSAP QBank? I haven't done great on exams in the past so am looking for something that will allow the concepts to stick.
A couple of my colleagues used Knowmedge this year. They both passed and both spoke highly of the videos...thought it helped them out. Plus reading through this thread, seems like a lot of people used Knowmedge as well. I'm a visual learner myself so its definitely worth a shot for me. So far, I've only practiced a couple dozen questions. I really like the platform also, really different than MKSAP. Definitely recommend, especially with the $100 off.
I actually don't know anyone that's used NEJM. The platform does look good but don't know much more. Looks like they just launched in April.
My experience:
My ITE scores were good through my 3 years, and I did go through MKSAP material+ questions once/twice per organ system during the late PGY2-PGY3 period (and I am not the study at home every single day kind of person) esp before ITEs, but did not go through a cram session towards the end or take a board review course or use anything other than MKSAP and IMO, the exam was NOT tough.
In fact, I thought the questions were lest 'twistier' than Step3.
I hope this gives people hope since I see most of the posters here unintentionally make the boards to be a scarier monster than it actually is.
IMO.
Failed three times before. Took a year off in between. Passed this year!!!!!! Key factor: No life stress or drama in my life. It doesn't matter how smart one is, if there is major distractions, this affects your performance. I am a living witness. ABIM requires complete dedication to the task. I would recommend sticking to one source. I used MKSAP 16 Digital. Only read the text if I needed clarification. I did not buy the books because over the years of studying realize that I am not the type to read the texts necessarily. I need to put things in context.
- I Did MKSAP 16 questions at least 5 times...all of the questions. Went over what I was getting wrong. Went back to my Robbins pathophys books if i needed to, even used some animated youtube videos to help drive basic concepts or remind me of basic concepts. Literally had lots of fun studying because i was stress free and drew out concepts particularly in Endo (my least favorite system) and sealed my understanding. I results went from the 50s to the 90s...and that was not me memorizing the questions either. Just becoming more confident in trusting my first instinct.
-I read BB3 at least 5 times.
- Took the ACP Board review course
- Major part of studying successfully is getting rid of the negative self talk; maintaining clear vision of your success. I was an athlete so i prepared for this exam the way I would prepare for my professional meets. Visualize winning at the finish line.
- Took time to take care of myself...so get massages at the spa. Go to the ocean and spent time nurturing myself. Not to be overlooked.
I gave myself a full year to study but I increased intensity as time went on. I created a schedule and stuck to it for the most part. I only took a month off of work to do what I come major intense studying...8 hrs a day, took breaks for lunch. Worked out every day. Figure out what works for you and stick to it. I did stay off of this website because I realized that sometimes reading the posts gave me anxiety and I would second guess my strategy...for example, wanting to get more resources etc. Had to really force myself to stick with MKSAP; it was most representative of the exam. I wish everyone the best in their sitting of this exam. You can conquer it!
Me neither. Just got off the phone w/ ABIM. Lady said that "we are in the process of still sending them out, so if you haven't received your scores by Friday, call again". Not sure if I should waste my time. I guess it will show up in the mail when it does.No score report for me yet...