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If she's not getting pleasure, you're doing it wrong
Sounds like that's what happens when the girl's not really into you but into your money.

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In my experience, women do not enjoy sex as much as men. I don't care about the few outliers. Women find sex more times a chore with their partner than something to enjoy. They get less pleasure if not sometimes none. I think your statement shows how you are aware that sex is important in keeping a relationship together. A lot of men marry for sex. That is a very bad idea. If you gonna get married, you got to love that person and realize you will definitely get less sex than the single life. Women like to cuddle way more than sex. For married men, get use to the cuddle life lol.

Women enjoy shopping, vacations, clothes, luxury items etc way more than sex (which they don't enjoy much at all). Many women just tolerate sex to get love (from the person they care about) or money from men. Thats why they say marriage is usually an exchange but Im not gonna get into that.

Someone's been reading way too much return of kings BS.


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Trust me. I've been complimented on my sex game multiple times. Its just in my experience, the majority of women are not into sex as much as men. Even if you get a girl to orgasm which i have done many times to many women, the girls treat it more non-nonchalantly than men do. Some are really into and love it. Others not so much. There is a huge range in how much a woman enjoys sex. But for the most part, Im averaging all of them 80-90+, most are not into sex as much as men. Its facts man. I've had hot girls too. Generally uglier girls give you sometimes way better sex than the hotter ones. Just my experience.
 
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In my experience, women do not enjoy sex as much as men. I don't care about the few outliers. Women find sex more times a chore with their partner than something to enjoy. They get less pleasure if not sometimes none. I think your statement shows how you are aware that sex is important in keeping a relationship together. A lot of men marry for sex. That is a very bad idea. If you gonna get married, you got to love that person and realize you will definitely get less sex than the single life. Women like to cuddle way more than sex. For married men, get use to the cuddle life lol.

Women enjoy shopping, vacations, clothes, luxury items etc way more than sex (which they don't enjoy much at all). Many women just tolerate sex to get love (from the person they care about) or money from men. Thats why they say marriage is usually an exchange but Im not gonna get into that.
Are you just trolling or truly tat ignorant about women? Your posts are hilarious and frightening.

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Are you just trolling or truly tat ignorant about women? Your posts are hilarious and frightening.

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Does a fisherman have to know everything about a fish to be able to catch one? Its always dudes who are virgins who think they know or have to know everything about women to actually get one.
 
Trust me. I've been complimented on my sex game multiple times. Its just in my experience, the majority of women are not into sex as much as men. Even if you get a girl to orgasm which i have done many times to many women, the girls treat it more non-nonchalantly than men do. Some are really into and love it. Others not so much. There is a huge range in how much a woman enjoys sex. But for the most part, Im averaging all of them 80-90+, most are not into sex as much as men. Its facts man. I've had hot girls too. Generally uglier girls give you sometimes way better sex than the hotter ones. Just my experience.
Well, in my experience, when I have a girls night, we all get drunk and one of the first thing that comes up is sex, because it truly is something of importance to us.
 
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Because unless you look like efron being tall will help you a lot. But since this thread has gotten crazy I'll admit that I've been messing around.. I've never been called short or mistreated despite being 5'8 (so I'm fine with my height), and the dating criteria is not what I said. What I do agree is looks do matter a lot, but if you're a doctor and above average you're going to beat most of the competition with some confidence. A lot of the younger male attendings/residents at my hospital who are above average in looks (6/10) have absolutely gorgeous partners (well above their league). The hard part is finding the hot girls who are single, aren't crazy, are smart with good jobs, etc.

Never really come across male drs who strike out of their league. Most guys can't rate other men properly and get the false impression of the guy not being in the girl's league. Almost every time, a hot girl is with a guy who's very good looking himself.
In my experience, women do not enjoy sex as much as men. I don't care about the few outliers. Women find sex more times a chore with their partner than something to enjoy. They get less pleasure if not sometimes none. I think your statement shows how you are aware that sex is important in keeping a relationship together. A lot of men marry for sex. That is a very bad idea. If you gonna get married, you got to love that person and realize you will definitely get less sex than the single life. Women like to cuddle way more than sex. For married men, get use to the cuddle life lol.

Women enjoy shopping, vacations, clothes, luxury items etc way more than sex (which they don't enjoy much at all). Many women just tolerate sex to get love (from the person they care about) or money from men. Thats why they say marriage is usually an exchange but Im not gonna get into that.
lol what... not sure if serious.
You could argue women have lower sex drives than men and hence don't need it as frequently but they definitely do enjoy it just as much.
 
Man, what a hopeless thread. Im out. Keep believing these lies. Im gonna be on the other side having a whole lotta fun with a whole lotta women lmao. Peace yall
 
And height. Don't forget height.
One of y'all gonna be a Elliot Rodger. Elliot Rodger was a virgin who got no attention from women. Most of y'all have more in common with him than I do lol. Last post, bye
 
Never really come across male drs who strike out of their league. Most guys can't rate other men properly and get the false impression of the guy not being in the girl's league. Almost every time, a hot girl is with a guy who's very good looking himself.

lol what... not sure if serious.
You could argue women have lower sex drives than men and hence don't need it as frequently but they definitely do enjoy it just as much.

Nah dude believe me, the three docs/residents I know are both balding hard, not that great looking but okay looking guys yet their significant others are hot. Even one of my buddies exes- he's overweight, not that great looking, and his ex looked like natalie portman. I could go on with example after example. Theres one thing those guys have in common though and that is theyre all chill guys. if youre decent looking, cool, and make decent money youre a catch.
 
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Nah dude believe me, the three docs/residents I know are both balding hard, not that great looking but okay looking guys yet their significant others are hot. Even one of my buddies exes- he's overweight, not that great looking, and his ex looked like natalie portman. I could go on with example after example. Theres one thing those guys have in common though and that is theyre all chill guys. if youre decent looking, cool, and make decent money youre a catch.
High Yield point "Money attracts the Honeys"
 
Nah dude believe me, the three docs/residents I know are both balding hard, not that great looking but okay looking guys yet their significant others are hot. Even one of my buddies exes- he's overweight, not that great looking, and his ex looked like natalie portman. I could go on with example after example. Theres one thing those guys have in common though and that is theyre all chill guys. if youre decent looking, cool, and make decent money youre a catch.
Well you said they're 6/10s and yeah having a 7-8/10 partner is doable if you're lucky. Every other factor needs to be in your favor though including personality.
 
High Yield point "Money attracts the Honeys"
I missed this post and really wanted to comment on this... Most women are nottt gold diggers. That's like the biggest myth in today's dating world. Even guys in their 20s who are loaded with parent money aren't striking out of their league unless they're directly paying for it (escorts).
Money/career matters in that it's a turn off to be a unemployed or making minimum wage. But once you have a half decent job and make like 45k/year, the vast majority of women will be fine with your job & income.
 
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In my experience, women do not enjoy sex as much as men. I don't care about the few outliers. Women find sex more times a chore with their partner than something to enjoy. They get less pleasure if not sometimes none. I think your statement shows how you are aware that sex is important in keeping a relationship together. A lot of men marry for sex. That is a very bad idea. If you gonna get married, you got to love that person and realize you will definitely get less sex than the single life. Women like to cuddle way more than sex. For married men, get use to the cuddle life lol.

Women enjoy shopping, vacations, clothes, luxury items etc way more than sex (which they don't enjoy much at all). Many women just tolerate sex to get love (from the person they care about) or money from men. Thats why they say marriage is usually an exchange but Im not gonna get into that.

That is odd. In every relationship that I have been, it was my partner that usually wanted it more.

I echo what others say and I might also add that she must not like you very much if that is the case.
 
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They deleted my first comment because it wasn't professional enough, which I don't get because this entire thread lacks professionalism and is still not locked
 
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I missed this post and really wanted to comment on this... Most women are nottt gold diggers. That's like the biggest myth in today's dating world. Even guys in their 20s who are loaded with parent money aren't striking out of their league unless they're directly paying for it (escorts).
Money/career matters in that it's a turn off to be a unemployed or making minimum wage. But once you have a half decent job and make like 45k/year, the vast majority of women will be fine with your job & income.

This is false. It's always good to have more of a good thing.
 
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This is false. It's always good to have more of a good thing.
You're telling me your typical common girl who has a middle class income will reject you because you make approx. what she makes? lol.... Or are you saying she'll take a worse looking guy over you because he makes 400k and you make 60k? Cause that scenario may happen on TV or on redpill forums but it literally never happens with sane normal girls. Anyone who knows enough wealthy people and prettier girls would recognize what I'm saying right away. Lack of experience makes one repeat stereotypes from the media.
 
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You're telling me your typical common girl who has a middle class income will reject you because you make approx. what she makes? lol.... Or are you saying she'll take a worse looking guy over you because he makes 400k and you make 60k? Cause that scenario may happen on TV or on redpill forums but it literally never happens with sane normal girls. Anyone who knows enough wealthy people and prettier girls would recognize what I'm saying right away. Lack of experience makes one repeat stereotypes from the media.

There's no point to argue about something so obvious. However, I would just like to point out that your chances, as a late 40s or early 50s year old dude, of dating a pretty girl in her late 20s or early 30s are significantly higher if you make 300-400K instead of 40-50K.
 
You're telling me your typical common girl who has a middle class income will reject you because you make approx. what she makes? lol.... Or are you saying she'll take a worse looking guy over you because he makes 400k and you make 60k? Cause that scenario may happen on TV or on redpill forums but it literally never happens with sane normal girls. Anyone who knows enough wealthy people and prettier girls would recognize what I'm saying right away. Lack of experience makes one repeat stereotypes from the media.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. Sugar daddies are always good in the eyes of women.
 
There's no point to argue about something so obvious. However, I would just like to point out that your chances, as a late 40s or early 50s year old dude, of dating a pretty girl in her late 20s or early 30s are significantly higher if you make 300-400K instead of 40-50K.
That's called a sugar daddy (which is quite common). You give them an allowance and they sleep with you/"date" you.
I was talking more about real relationships or sleeping with someone without directly giving them money or expensive stuff. And I was talking about guys in their 20s largely and perhaps 30s. Definitely not 50....
 
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I missed this post and really wanted to comment on this... Most women are nottt gold diggers. That's like the biggest myth in today's dating world. Even guys in their 20s who are loaded with parent money aren't striking out of their league unless they're directly paying for it (escorts).
Money/career matters in that it's a turn off to be a unemployed or making minimum wage. But once you have a half decent job and make like 45k/year, the vast majority of women will be fine with your job & income.
45k/year salary is awful.. that's low for even annual interest income from investments. At that salary and job unless your a resident your probably leading a pretty ****ty life, so I imagine your looks have to be pretty important. Anyhow I couldn't imagine being with someone who isnt skilled/educated and doesn't make good money herself. Imagine if your wife works at Macys or cuts hair at supercuts or is a personal trainer. Have you had a conversation with those people? Youd never actually respect her.
 
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That's called a sugar daddy (which is quite common). You give them an allowance and they sleep with you/"date" you.
I was talking more about real relationships or sleeping with someone without directly giving them money or expensive stuff. And I was talking about guys in their 20s largely and perhaps 30s. Definitely not 50....

Listen... Women are mainly driven by your ability to support her in the nurturing process of her eggs, especially in term of dating process and eventually marriage. Your look is really not that important unless you look like a 400 lbs slob.

More money --> better houses in safer areas --> a possible nanny to help her with the house cleaning and cooking --> better education opportunities for her kids --> more time for herself --> more vacation opportunities --> etc...

You may be a cool person, but at the end of the day, it's more about her. Your presence is really not that important.
 
Listen... Women are mainly driven by your ability to support her in the nurturing process of her eggs, especially in term of dating process and eventually marriage. Your look is really not that important unless you look like a 400 lbs slob.

More money --> better houses in safer areas --> a possible nanny to help her with the house cleaning and cooking --> better education opportunities for her kids --> more time for herself --> more vacation opportunities --> etc...

You may be a cool person, but at the end of the day, it's more about her. Your presence is really not that important.

Well, if we are going with the route of oversimplifications, why not consider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_son_hypothesis

For the record, I am not a fan of oversimplifications of human interactions as some of the more internal sublime drives seem to be constantly underrepresented, especially in the looks vs. money debates.
 
45k/year salary is awful.. that's low for even annual interest income from investments. At that salary and job unless your a resident your probably leading a pretty ****ty life, so I imagine your looks have to be pretty important. Anyhow I couldn't imagine being with someone who isnt skilled/educated and doesn't make good money herself. Imagine if your wife works at Macys or cuts hair at supercuts or is a personal trainer. Have you had a conversation with those people? Youd never actually respect her.
That's the average salary of many police officers and they have my utmost respect.
 
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Well, if we are going with the route of oversimplifications, why not consider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_son_hypothesis

For the record, I am not a fan of oversimplifications of human interactions as some of the more internal sublime drives seem to be constantly underrepresented, especially in the looks vs. money debates.

So what's sexy? Tall, strong alphas in simple terms. Please note that the reason for this selection is more about increased survival for the offsprings and the female partners. In our human society, copious amount of money = power, status, security, and more opportunities in everything for her offsprings.
 
So what's sexy? Tall, strong alphas in simple terms. Please note that the reason for this selection is more about increased survival for the offsprings and the female partners. In our human society, copious amount of money = power, status, security, and more opportunities in everything for her offsprings.

Look man, it's just another theory that I am not preaching to be the absolute truth. There is also another theory that goes somewhat against your point of view: Fisherian runaway - Wikipedia

My actual point was about the oversimplifications. Having a formula on how women behave with an equal sign in it just strikes me as odd.

Edit: I also believe you are not understanding the theory described. It is not about offspring survival. It's about the ability of the offspring to attract potential partners and have more theoretical offspring of their own (that all is besides my main point made above).
 
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That's the average salary of many police officers and they have my utmost respect.
You must have never been to a 3rd world country or even a good portion of the US, because a lot of police forces are racist and filled with corruption. In several Asian/South American countries you can pay the cops as little as $10 and they'll let you go. You must also respect firemen, who are possibly even more corrupt and in a certain state are notorious for suddenly developing back pain early in their life, and then retiring with pensions above 100k.
 
Look man, it's just another theory that I am not preaching to be the absolute truth. There is also another theory that goes somewhat against your point of view: Fisherian runaway - Wikipedia

My actual point was about the oversimplifications. Having a formula on how women behave with an equal sign in it just strikes me as odd.
Is there a formula for a "normal distribution" output?

Edit: found it

f(x)=N(μ,σ2)
 
Imagine if your wife works at Macys or cuts hair at supercuts or is a personal trainer. Have you had a conversation with those people? Youd never actually respect her.

Imagine if your husband actually respects you regardless of how much you make or what your level of education is.


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You must have never been to a 3rd world country or even a good portion of the US, because a lot of police forces are racist and filled with corruption. In several Asian/South American countries you can pay the cops as little as $10 and they'll let you go. You must also respect firemen, who are possibly even more corrupt and in a certain state are notorious for suddenly developing back pain early in their life, and then retiring with pensions above 100k.
Pushing propaganda doesn't somehow validate your point. Your post was literally saying because someone makes less money, they're somehow less of a person. I'm 100% certain every officer I know is a better, more valuable person than you, tenfold.
 
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45k/year salary is awful.. that's low for even annual interest income from investments. At that salary and job unless your a resident your probably leading a pretty ****ty life, so I imagine your looks have to be pretty important. Anyhow I couldn't imagine being with someone who isnt skilled/educated and doesn't make good money herself. Imagine if your wife works at Macys or cuts hair at supercuts or is a personal trainer. Have you had a conversation with those people? Youd never actually respect her.
Well a fresh new engineer isn't making much more than that. Teachers certainly aren't making much more by any stretch. (this is all for young people by the way)
There's an endless sea of jobs where the person is educated and makes 40-60k/year. In that income range you're not going to be disqualified from dating any women except legit upper class ones. As a side note, I find guys are the ones normally asking the girl what she does for a living (not the other way around).
Listen... Women are mainly driven by your ability to support her in the nurturing process of her eggs, especially in term of dating process and eventually marriage. Your look is really not that important unless you look like a 400 lbs slob.

More money --> better houses in safer areas --> a possible nanny to help her with the house cleaning and cooking --> better education opportunities for her kids --> more time for herself --> more vacation opportunities --> etc...

You may be a cool person, but at the end of the day, it's more about her. Your presence is really not that important.
Cool... but in the real world your typical hot girl is with a guy who's also very hot. When do you ever see a rich guy with a girl much prettier than him? Unless he's bringing an escort to the dinner or is a sugar daddy - you don't.
It's just a matter of what happens in the real world. Do those sorority girls have rich bfs? No, cause the bf is also usually a student. On the other hand, there are loads of male doctors/bankers who have dating problems. If the money theory was true, the majority of college aged attractive girls would be with ceos/drs/bankers and so on.
The only time we see a similar case is with pro athletes but being a celebrity or a true millionaire is a whole different world and discussion, particularly with athletes.
 
Pushing propaganda doesn't somehow validate your point. Your post was literally saying because someone makes less money, they're somehow less of a person. I'm 100% certain every officer I know is a better, more valuable person than you, tenfold.
Where exactly did I say less of a person? I said "lead a ****ty life" and "you'd never respect them." Who I respect has nothing to do with money, its their value system. I don't respect a lot of politicians who are incredibly rich. You seem pretty upset though, and you can think however you want, but you don't realize how the world actually works and how bad things actually are. I went on a cruise once with a family friend, who is incredibly rich, and yet I saw his father slip $200 to the guy in charge of photos to give him every photo that was taken of his family. Each photo is more than $20 and there were easily over 50 taken, so you can do the math. His dad never paid a dime in taxes from all the tax fraud he did. His dad eventually died of cancer in his early 50s, so maybe karma caught up to him. Fwiw I didn't respect him either despite his money like you suggest.
 
Precisely. People who need to constantly boast are insecure deep down. I've done underwear modeling and won bodybuilding shows in the past and been a competitive athlete for years. Have I bragged about how I look in this thread? Not even once...

And I have not once called your mother a prostitute, no matter how many men she sleeps with for money....

/preterition
 
Imagine if your husband actually respects you regardless of how much you make or what your level of education is.


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Good for him, but do you think he would have gone for you if you were working as a janitor cleaning the hospital? I'm guessing your accomplishments had a lot to do with it. No offense, but as an orthopedic surgeon, how do you not have better things to do than argue with medical students on a forum?
 
Good for him, but do you think he would have gone for you if you were working as a janitor cleaning the hospital? I'm guessing your accomplishments had a lot to do with it. No offense, but as an orthopedic surgeon, how do you not have better things to do than argue with medical students on a forum?
She needs to inflate her own ego by talking about how hot and awesome she is.
 
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Good for him, but do you think he would have gone for you if you were working as a janitor cleaning the hospital? I'm guessing your accomplishments had a lot to do with it. No offense, but as an orthopedic surgeon, how do you not have better things to do than argue with medical students on a forum?

Oh I'm not arguing with you. I'm calling out your BS. You literally said you would not respect your spouse if she were a personal trainer or someone "low educated." That's sad if you think that way. There is no difference between me, you, a cop, a personal trainer, in terms of who deserves more respect or has more relevance in a society. We all have our roles to play. Some get paid more, sure, and are a better "catch" financially, but that's not what you said, as you specifically mentioned respect and "have you actually had to talk to those people?" It sounds very elitist.

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She needs to inflate her own ego by talking about how hot and awesome she is.

Well, I am actually both of those things, thanks. Plus I have nothing to do between cases at 4am, makes the turnover time go faster, outside my AMA these forums are hilarious.


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I study for a few days and come back to this? For the record, women on SDN have stated we like sex, like men who are not doctors, are not gold diggers wait, and can be both confident and beautiful. Not surprisingly, it appears many women on SDN avoid med students, residents and attendings as mates.

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I study for a few days and come back to this? For the record, women on SDN have stated we like sex, like men who are not doctors, are not gold diggers wait, and can be both confident and beautiful. Not surprisingly, it appears many women on SDN avoid med students, residents and attendings as mates.

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Im gonna hop back in. Most female med students/residents/doctors are below average in looks. So Im really glad you are looking elsewhere. I've been with women that my whole female medical school class couldn't hold a candle to. So I hope you keep comforting yourself thinking we are crying inside from missing out lmao. Women in medical school are like the vestal virgins of rome. They bring prestige to the family yet they usually get selected since they couldn't cut it in the looks department lmfao.
 
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