How do you know if a program is malignant? Obviously it won't be listed on FREIDA...so how would you find out? A Google search??? Rumors heard from others?? How you feel about the program at the interview???
It's tough to know, google searches can be unreliable, and rumors through the grape vine might just descend from other people's google searches.How do you know if a program is malignant? Obviously it won't be listed on FREIDA...so how would you find out? A Google search??? Rumors heard from others?? How you feel about the program at the interview???
When did DOs stop being AMGs/US grads?It's mostly hearsay. You will meet people who end up at different programs on the interview trail or you have friends at different programs or medical schools. You can also see what people say on websites like scutwork or even here at times but those reviews are a little out of date and usually biased as angry people are probably more likely to put up a review than a happy person. You can't really tell about a program just from the interview day. They are usually trying to put their best foot forward and want to impress the applicants just as much as you want to impress them.
An indirect way to get a sense of the quality of a program is to see how many IMGs/DOs there are compared to US grads.
A clinical dean once told me that you can spot a malignant program if it's one in a competitive specialty and it still has open spots.
A clinical dean once told me that you can spot a malignant program if it's one in a competitive specialty and it still has open spots.
Be careful with the university affiliation too.
i know a couple of Internal medicine programs with " affiliated with Yal* School of Medicine,"and they're not very academic at all.
This is VERY common and prevalent across the country.
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I found it to be a red flag if the program didn't match anyone from their own institution, particularly if they had a strong medical school attached to it. If their own med students who had first hand insight into the program didn't want to match there, it should give you pause.
what if they just wanted to live somewhere elseI found it to be a red flag if the program didn't match anyone from their own institution, particularly if they had a strong medical school attached to it. If their own med students who had first hand insight into the program didn't want to match there, it should give you pause.
Bingo. This method works best in big cities like NYC or Chicago.
Can't blame a Rush student for choosing residency at Northwestern or University of Chicago, but if they are consistently choosing Loyola or UIC over Rush then that says something.
I think this is a potentially useful but also somewhat dangerous metric, since you are dealing with very small sample size and as someone just mentioned, you don't know the motivations of the individuals involved.
Our best M4 this year wants to go to a specific geographic locale for family reason. If we as a program help him fulfill that goal, that's a really good sign for the strength and benevolence (is that the opposite of malignant?) of our program.
Just looking a single class wouldn't be useful, but I think looking overall at the program that would have 3-7 classes worth of residents should give a decent indicator as to whether or not they retain their own talent. It's obviously not a perfect metric, but I think it's really difficult to measure malignancy outside of actually talking to several different residents of the program. Even then, that's not a perfect measure since they could just be lying to themselves, want to sell the program to keep it's prestige, or just be a grumpy person.what if they just wanted to live somewhere else
So for #2, the higher the BMI of support staff, the more or less malignant?If someone does a study...I think the following will be the most sensitive and specific for gauging if a program is malignant or not
1. The quality of food/beverages/refreshments you get while interviewing
2. The average BMI of support staff/nurses
I am being completely serious here
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Sorry bro, everyone knows that the more allopathic US graduates that are at a program usually means the program is more competitive. Top programs attract top talent. I wish the DO bias weren’t a thing, but it’s true.When did DOs stop being AMGs/US grads?