males applying for obgyn

[TY06]

is it hard for men to get in? i heard its easier cause there are less who apply. but someone told me programs dont like men.

whats the truth>? TIA

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[kauai]

I don't think there is a preference either way. Programs are interested in getting the best residents they can get!

 

[UCLAMAN]

is it hard for men to get in? i heard its easier cause there are less who apply. but someone told me programs dont like men.

whats the truth>? TIA

men are at a premium in the field since not enough apply. the field wants a 50/50 split...unfortunately they can never get that since not enough men apply. northwestern's program has 9 spots...we make sure that at least 1 or 2 are filled by men if not more. most programs also try to make sure that they have at least 1 male(maybe more depending on the size of the program). as one of my ob/gyn advisors puts it "you have one other advantage in the OB/gyn match process...your third leg."

 

[TY06]

men are at a premium in the field since not enough apply. the field wants a 50/50 split...unfortunately they can never get that since not enough men apply. northwestern's program has 9 spots...we make sure that at least 1 or 2 are filled by men if not more. most programs also try to make sure that they have at least 1 male(maybe more depending on the size of the program). as one of my ob/gyn advisors puts it "you have one other advantage in the OB/gyn match process...your third leg."

hahah i love it...third leg.
uclaman...i remember when you were applying to med school on this forum. youre 1 year above me. congrats to the both of us for making it this far!!

 

[Matt Laneland]

nope not at all tougher for men....I know a lot of male Ob residents....

but it'll be a great field for a guy to get into....men are still in great demand here!

matt

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[aamna929]

i don't get it.. not enough apply? most of the ob/gyns in my insurance book are male.. i had to really look to find a female one for me.

 

[Andre04]

i don't get it.. not enough apply? most of the ob/gyns in my insurance book are male.. i had to really look to find a female one for me.

The demographic is changing. Currently-practicing ob/gyns are mostly male, especially among the older set, but there's a huge influx of women in residency and starting their careers.

On a personal note, every female ob/gyn I've gone to has been a witch, so I'm glad that there are still men going into it (despite the SN, I'm not a dude). I think it's dangerous for there to be too much estrogen in any field.

 

[UCLAMAN]

i don't get it.. not enough apply? most of the ob/gyns in my insurance book are male.. i had to really look to find a female one for me.

as the poster above me pointed out...those guys are old school. i mean...back in the day there were a lot more male docs in general than female doctors. but these days most medical school classess are split 50/50 males/females. and most of those males prefer not to go into ob/gyn.

you want proof that not enough guys apply? why don't you all google a few residency programs. in fact...here...i'll post some links myself...keep in mind, as of the last few years...essentially EVERY single US senior that applied has matched into OB/gyn. that means that every single male that applied also matched. so its not that these programs are just male-phobic or anything because all the men that do apply get in. well, i suppose...if you can find that one program that only accepts men then by all means post the link and show me. maybe they are the ones that stole all of the Y chromosomes?

bottom line? not enough XY's are applying these days.

NYU OB/gyn residents

emory

Pitt OB/gyn

UCI OB/gyn

Baylor OB/gyn

Kaiser LA

complete 180 from your insurance book i am sure.

 

[superspec]

The demographic is changing. Currently-practicing ob/gyns are mostly male, especially among the older set, but there's a huge influx of women in residency and starting their careers.

On a personal note, every female ob/gyn I've gone to has been a witch, so I'm glad that there are still men going into it (despite the SN, I'm not a dude). I think it's dangerous for there to be too much estrogen in any field.

Just like it might be dangerous to have too much testosterone in any field?????

 

[UCLAMAN]

Just like it might be dangerous to have too much testosterone in any field?????

absolutely...just look at general surgery. many(but certainly not all) can be pompous, arrogant, pricks. or just look at the NFL, same thing.

 

[Faebinder]

You know the truth behind it.... In general men don't feel very welcome during their OBGYN rotations... and I am not talking about the residents nor the attendings... it's the patients mostly. My experience (6 weeks which were excellent to be honest) was like... oh no students please.... (male student leaves).... alright....

or my favorite worse case scenario.... I'm a male, my resident that day was a male (nice guy), my attending happened to be a male (great guy), and the third year IM resident rotating (decent guy as well)..... patient #3 comes in for her Kolposcopy....She looked at us and asked the attending, What is this? An orgy? Do you mind some privacy?

The usual..... I was out that door before he even said a word.

(I think I recieved a total of 4 asked to go out in my 2 weeks clinic, 2 asked out in my 2 weeks OB and 0 asked out in my 2 weeks of GYN)

I know to some people that's nothing special... but when you see patients arguing male residents to leave... you start to wonder why would I as a male go into that specialty?

 

[juddson]

This is my biggest fear. At some point somebody will post recent study data suggesting that the patient preferences do not portend that poorly for males in the field. But I am skeptical of such data because, as far as I know, the data does not stratify by age of patient. I bet (though, of course it is only a guess without the data) that the older patients skew toward no preference or male preference and the younger patients skew heavily towards a female preference.

If that is true (does anybody know of any studies that break it down this way), it does not bode well for young men entering the field.

Judd

 

[UCLAMAN]

You know the truth behind it.... In general men don't feel very welcome during their OBGYN rotations... and I am not talking about the residents nor the attendings... it's the patients mostly. My experience (6 weeks which were excellent to be honest) was like... oh no students please.... (male student leaves).... alright....

or my favorite worse case scenario.... I'm a male, my resident that day was a male (nice guy), my attending happened to be a male (great guy), and the third year IM resident rotating (decent guy as well)..... patient #3 comes in for her Kolposcopy....She looked at us and asked the attending, What is this? An orgy? Do you mind some privacy?

The usual..... I was out that door before he even said a word.

(I think I recieved a total of 4 asked to go out in my 2 weeks clinic, 2 asked out in my 2 weeks OB and 0 asked out in my 2 weeks of GYN)

I know to some people that's nothing special... but when you see patients arguing male residents to leave... you start to wonder why would I as a male go into that specialty?

northwestern is one of the few places in the nation that has its own freestanding women's hospital. including my senior elective i have now been working with women in an OB/gyn setting for 9 weeks total now. maybe its luck of the draw but i havve never been kicked out. i think part of the problem as a medical student is that sometimes you are left to shadow women attendings. sometimes this can pose a problem because a small percentage of a female attending's patients specifically go to them because she is a woman so naturally it gives the medical student a skewed view. on the other hand...if you were to have worked with male ob/gyn's you would probably not be kicked out of rooms. the male ob/gyn's practicing here at our women's hospital are just as busy as the female attendings. and despite the fact that you were kicked out of the room of a male attending, i think it is understandable that a patient isn't necessarily comfortable with the whole third grade class there. the bright side of that situation is that that woman was comfortable and willing to go see a male gynecologist. i would argue that in that specific case it wasn't necesarily your third leg that got you kicked out of the room(granted, i dont know for sure since i wasnt there). but you know...posses that roll 12-deep in medicine can certainly be intimidating.

nevertheless, i think as a male in the field you will definitely see patients that dont want to see male doctors. fine. but as a male i could care less since i think there are plenty of women out there who prefer male ob/gyns...or perhaps more importantly, prefer someone who cares and has great bedside manner regardless of their genetic makeup.

 

[UCLAMAN]

This is my biggest fear. At some point somebody will post recent study data suggesting that the patient preferences do not portend that poorly for males in the field. But I am skeptical of such data because, as far as I know, the data does not stratify by age of patient. I bet (though, of course it is only a guess without the data) that the older patients skew toward no preference or male preference and the younger patients skew heavily towards a female preference.

If that is true (does anybody know of any studies that break it down this way), it does not bode well for young men entering the field.

Judd

anecdotally i see some valid points in what you are saying. however, i still think that the number of women needing ob/gyn's who are willing to see male ob/gyns far outnumbers the number of men entering the field these days.

 

[bkrone1]

Here's another link for you:

University of Kentucky Ob/Gyn: 6/20 male residents
http://www.mc.uky.edu/obg/Residency/currentresidents.asp

I think it is a great time to get into OB/Gyn as a male. In my experience, for every woman that prefers a female MD, I have encountered another woman who preferred male MD's. It's all about pt preference. I think it is good to be a rare commodity.

 

[OBfan]

Here's another link for you:

University of Kentucky Ob/Gyn: 6/20 male residents
http://www.mc.uky.edu/obg/Residency/currentresidents.asp

I think it is a great time to get into OB/Gyn as a male. In my experience, for every woman that prefers a female MD, I have encountered another woman who preferred male MD's. It's all about pt preference. I think it is good to be a rare commodity.

do you guys think its the same deal for fellowships? Easier for men to get into them (urogyn, gynonc)

 

[UCLAMAN]

do you guys think its the same deal for fellowships? Easier for men to get into them (urogyn, gynonc)

word on the street is that men do have a slight benefit of the doubt aspect when programs choose their fellows. but you still have to be qualified and have performed well as a resident and done well on boards etc.

 

[doughboy]

UCONN has currently 10/37 male residents which is impressive

 

[Spittz03]

Wayne State University has >50% males:
Unknown - 1st years
6/12 - 2nd year
5/8 - 3rd years
7/12 - 4th years

 

[UCLAMAN]

Wayne State University has >50% males:
Unknown - 1st years
6/12 - 2nd year
5/8 - 3rd years
7/12 - 4th years

i knew there had to be one program out there stealing all the XY's!

 

[MacGyver]

This is my biggest fear. At some point somebody will post recent study data suggesting that the patient preferences do not portend that poorly for males in the field. But I am skeptical of such data because, as far as I know, the data does not stratify by age of patient. I bet (though, of course it is only a guess without the data) that the older patients skew toward no preference or male preference and the younger patients skew heavily towards a female preference.

If that is true (does anybody know of any studies that break it down this way), it does not bode well for young men entering the field.

Judd

100% accurate. The only reason older women show no preference for female ob/gyn is because growing up they had no choice but to see a male, so after years of that they got accustomed to male ob/gyns and no longer have any preference.

But its absolutely 180 degrees different for young females today. Today they have a choice, and they show a STRONG preference for female ob/gyns

 

[UCLAMAN]

100% accurate. The only reason older women show no preference for female ob/gyn is because growing up they had no choice but to see a male, so after years of that they got accustomed to male ob/gyns and no longer have any preference.

But its absolutely 180 degrees different for young females today. Today they have a choice, and they show a STRONG preference for female ob/gyns

i disagree with this. there will always be women who have a strong preference for female physicians. the question is...what percentage of the female population have such a strong preference? i would argue certainly not the majority(albeit i don't have the 3000 subject study to back that up). anecdotally i think that women in their teens and early 20's may have some reservations seeing a male ob/gyn. however, i think as women get older(later 20's and 30's) i think they start to lose those reservations. and even for those early 20's patients....i would still argue that its not gender that is the deciding factor as to whether a male ob/gyn will have a big practice or not. i think it will come down to a physician's skill and personality rather than his third leg.

i mean...i am pretty sure that a 23y/o woman with a positive triple screen at 15 weeks could give a rats ass about the gender of the person doing the amnio. what she really cares about is how many amnios have you done? the woman having abnormal uterine bleeding could probably care less too...just stop the freakin bleeding, period. there are tons of young women who need or want birth control. for the majority of women...does the gender of the prescribing doc really matter? i mean...just give the woman her ortho evra.

simplified? perhaps. i guess my point is this...there will always be women who strongly prefer a woman ob/gyn. but when it comes down to it...the population of women outside the aforementioned group just want their healthcare from a caring, skilled physician regardless of gender. i mean for most people...when you are sick or have problems, you just want the problem fixed.

don't even get me started about the subspecialties. gyne-onc...you think a woman actually cares about the gender of the person taking out her ovarian or breast cancer? probably the last thing on her mind. REI? a woman who can't conceive, i am sure she could care less about the doc's gender. just get her pregnant. MFM? if you are a high risk patient frankly i dont think the gender of their doc is their primary concern.

 

[doughboy]

UCLAMAN, you make a lot of great points. I agree that when it comes down to it, most women with a medical problem just want to be taken care of by the best person. However, if women had an option of male/female with all other things being equal, I personally think the majority would see a female. Most women don't have a choice when it comes to subspecialists because if you don't live in a big city there aren't many options. You take what you can get.

 

[tiredmom]

In some areas, there is also a cultural component to "no male providers", especially certain religious groups. In my experience, it wasn't the women, but the husbands who voiced loud objections to the male providers. Personally, I've always had a male provider, because at the time I initiated care, there weren't too many females in practice back home. Demographics are changing, but I don't think you're going to have trouble finding work. We need guys around - it feels too much like a sorority otherwise.

 

[pruritis_ani]

this topic makes me laugh. i have NEVER seen any male student or resident asked to leave. i have seem the VERY rare muslim pt that strongly prefers a female doc, and we usually can accomadate her.

there is plenty of work out there for smart, empathetic docs of either sex. i come into contact with male and female ob/gyns in the private sector every day. neither group is hurting for patients. they are plenty busy.

so, don't worry about it. if you are capable and nice you will do well. if you aren't, well then you would probably do poorly regardless of your gender.

 

[UCLAMAN]

i mean...women will certainly choose based on their preferences. and i do not deny that some women clearly will only see a female ob/gyn for whatever reason; personal, cultural, spousal, whatever. but come on...EVERYONE(male or female) has preferences(whether it be gender, personality, skill, empathy) right? some of these patient preferences will affect each individual OB/gyn's patient demographics, i agree.

i just feel like the gender preference is made into a bigger deal than it really is.

being XY does not automatically mean that you will fail as an OB/gyn. in fact, i believe one can thrive in the field as a male. guess i'll let you all know in 10 years if my practice goes south.

 

[UCLAMAN]

this topic makes me laugh. i have NEVER seen any male student or resident asked to leave. i have seem the VERY rare muslim pt that strongly prefers a female doc, and we usually can accomadate her.

there is plenty of work out there for smart, empathetic docs of either sex. i come into contact with male and female ob/gyns in the private sector every day. neither group is hurting for patients. they are plenty busy.

so, don't worry about it. if you are capable and nice you will do well. if you aren't, well then you would probably do poorly regardless of your gender.

gees...thank you. finally some support in this thread.

 

[OBfan]

gees...thank you. finally some support in this thread.

I'm with you.lol...Guys, just apply if you want it. Your gonna get a spot.

 

[juddson]

i disagree with this. there will always be women who have a strong preference for female physicians. the question is...what percentage of the female population have such a strong preference? i would argue certainly not the majority(albeit i don't have the 3000 subject study to back that up). anecdotally i think that women in their teens and early 20's may have some reservations seeing a male ob/gyn. however, i think as women get older(later 20's and 30's) i think they start to lose those reservations. and even for those early 20's patients....i would still argue that its not gender that is the deciding factor as to whether a male ob/gyn will have a big practice or not. i think it will come down to a physician's skill and personality rather than his third leg.

i mean...i am pretty sure that a 23y/o woman with a positive triple screen at 15 weeks could give a rats ass about the gender of the person doing the amnio. what she really cares about is how many amnios have you done? the woman having abnormal uterine bleeding could probably care less too...just stop the freakin bleeding, period. there are tons of young women who need or want birth control. for the majority of women...does the gender of the prescribing doc really matter? i mean...just give the woman her ortho evra.

simplified? perhaps. i guess my point is this...there will always be women who strongly prefer a woman ob/gyn. but when it comes down to it...the population of women outside the aforementioned group just want their healthcare from a caring, skilled physician regardless of gender. i mean for most people...when you are sick or have problems, you just want the problem fixed.

don't even get me started about the subspecialties. gyne-onc...you think a woman actually cares about the gender of the person taking out her ovarian or breast cancer? probably the last thing on her mind. REI? a woman who can't conceive, i am sure she could care less about the doc's gender. just get her pregnant. MFM? if you are a high risk patient frankly i dont think the gender of their doc is their primary concern.

Much of this goes without saying. I have heard from a few fellows and specialists alike that once the patient gets into a specialist situation (whether because she needs to see a gyb-onc, or MFM or whatever) the preferences, whatever they may have been, go out the window. Nobody is suggesting it is different.

For fellows, I think men have nothing to fear. But for run of the mill OB/GYN work, I think young men coming into the field will find themselves with fewer and fewer patients willing to see them as young patients profess a strong preference for females. If this is the case (and I believe it is, though I have no proof), I think that males who enter the field will be bypassing the baby-catching entirely and go directly to fellowship. I suspect that if I enter the field, this is where I will be going.

Judd

 

[Sanchik]

hey guys, didn't have the time to read the whole thread but i am 27, having my first baby in 3 weeks. of all my current friends now, most of them have male OB's. when i got pregnant, i just asked around and went to the person who everyone said was the best. gender didn't even cross my mind. and my OB is BUSY. and this is in NYC where people have tons of choices. so i wouldn't worry about the gender thing.

 

[Cardsnurse]

Hi,

While I have had both male and female OB/GYN docs treat me, I mostly didn't have a choice with the male. Any other area-- it wouldn't matter one iota: the best person for the job would. But in this area, I strongly prefer women. Why? well, there were a few instances in my earlier years where the actions of male dr's left me wondering...and, sorry to say, I question any male Dr going into the GYN specialty...sorry...

 

[Mr. McDuck]

This is only anecdotal, but pretty much all my female friends tell me they prefer a male, and all the male Ob/Gyns I know (8 or 9) have tons of patients. The two female Ob/Gyns are hardly ever busy. So, I doubt it is a problem.

 

[Cardsnurse]

This is only anecdotal, but pretty much all my female friends tell me they prefer a male, and all the male Ob/Gyns I know (8 or 9) have tons of patients. The two female Ob/Gyns are hardly ever busy. So, I doubt it is a problem.

Hmmmmm....ALL the female PEOPLE I KNOW prefer female OB/GYN. I have NEVER heard one state the contrary.

 

[OBfan]

Hmmmmm....ALL the female PEOPLE I KNOW prefer female OB/GYN. I have NEVER heard one state the contrary.

Are you guys seriously going to debate this topic.lol...Go study or something...

 

[Mr. McDuck]

Hmmmmm....ALL the female PEOPLE I KNOW prefer female OB/GYN. I have NEVER heard one state the contrary.

You just did.

 

[juddson]

Hi,

While I have had both male and female OB/GYN docs treat me, I mostly didn't have a choice with the male. Any other area-- it wouldn't matter one iota: the best person for the job would. But in this area, I strongly prefer women. Why? well, there were a few instances in my earlier years where the actions of male dr's left me wondering...and, sorry to say, I question any male Dr going into the GYN specialty...sorry...

Why would you question any male doctor going into a gyn specialty?

Judd

 

[Cardsnurse]

I am the last person to be chauvanistic, believe me. I would take male/female/green/blue whatever for anything else. Why would I question that? 1. from my experience with a couple, shall we say, unethical dr's as a young (HMO) patient (late teens) made me 'uncomfortable' then, in being so naivbe at that age, but still remember, and now know what the deal was, 2. Have heard some Dr's talk, not impressed (just look at some of these posts) 3. Think women are waaaaaaaayy more sensitive to this area, and not a large chance of being taken advantage of, or a closet lech, 4. Some might be closet lechs (do you remember that Dr and artificial insemination- he inseminmated his own sperm, remember? just one example) 5. would, if the tables are reversed, you want a woman to be a specialist in penis/scrotal/teste issues? especially reverse that if the culture had women dominant and focused on men visually the way this culture is now. And with all the specialties, I wonder why a man would specialize in women's genitalia/reproductive systems.

Just safer with a woman. Men can abuse things alot-- proven fact.

 

[ohbee gin]

oh cardsnurse, i hope you don't ever have a blue doctor.

this thread is a huge yawn. there's no data showing "strong" preference in young female population. there's no data showing that peoples preferences remain the same as they age.

Even though men are outnumbered, there are enough patients who are not so gender-particular and your individual preference is not going to change the mind of a male medical student who wants to pursue this field.

Likewise, if there is a gender-bias for residency programs either way in selecting males, there is not much short of a surgical vacation in thailand that you can do about it.

 

[Cardsnurse]

(a snippet from Ohbee's post previous to his deleting and re-writing it):"if you're a woman and you don't want a male ob, tell your provider. not me. you're not going to convince any males to avoid the field if that's what they really want to do.

the world is big enough to have a place for everyone."[/QUOTE]


Sorry, Ohbee, just thought this was a place for people to share their opinions. You sound upset-- didn't mean to do that. Sure, anyone can do what they like-- more power to them!! But I was just stating my opinion, which I have a right to do. And I respectfully explained my opinion, when asked.

I didn't ask for a provider (as I am a woman, as stated in your post) from you, I can figure that out myself. Thanks, though.

Have a GREAT night!!

PS- dont think this is much of a yawn subject- maybe you just dont like it.

 

[Cardsnurse]

Billy:


They are second hand to you, and to me, I don't even know them.

Sounds like all the males are upset by my preference, sorry!!!

 

[UCLAMAN]

Billy:


They are second hand to you, and to me, I don't even know them.

Sounds like all the males are upset by my preference, sorry!!!

your preference is fine, as everyone is entitled to their preferences. there are many women who are like you and many who aren't. thats fine.

however, i personally have issues with generalized statements that make it seem like a male physician would never have a chance or has no place at all in OB/gyn.

and there are many reasons why a male would want to go into OB/gyn. does it ever occur to you that patient gender is usually not one of them?

my institution is sending like 6 or 7 of us men into the field this year(out of like 17 people applying this year...huge jump from last year's 6 applicants). we are all excited about it and i can assure you it has absolutely nothing to do with gender or somehow being obsessed with female genitalia as cardsnurse implies. you have a problem with that? go talk to our dean. in fact, why don't you just head straight for the next ACOG meeting and have at it there?

 

[UCLAMAN]

...and yes, i have had a women doctor perform a genital exam on me. and yes i would not care if my urologist in the future is a woman(in fact, northwestern sent a girl to urology last year and we have another girl going into it this year). and no, i wouldnt mind a woman urologist NOT because of some sick fantasy as you insinuate men think about.

do you think that those two girls should not be in urology? do you think that somehow they do not understand? do you think those girls chose the field so they can somehow take advantage of men?

gees...come on...whats wrong with you?

 

[Cardsnurse]

...and yes, i have had a women doctor perform a genital exam on me. and yes i would not care if my urologist in the future is a woman(in fact, northwestern sent a girl to urology last year and we have another girl going into it this year). and no, i wouldnt mind a woman urologist NOT because of some sick fantasy as you insinuate men think about.

do you think that those two girls should not be in urology? do you think that somehow they do not understand? do you think those girls chose the field so they can somehow take advantage of men?

gees...come on...whats wrong with you?

whatever.......


to each his own....And please don't make a personal attack on me (i.e. 'what is wrong with you', on my personal opinion...no scientific data, PERSONAL OPINION)

But I was wondering, by your repeated reference to 'girls' if you were speaking of female Dr's...who (obviously) have gone through some higher ed training. Or were they, in fact, under the age of 18, in which 'girls' would e appropriate?

 

[UCLAMAN]

whatever.......


to each his own

hey...i agree with you 100%.

i am not telling you which doctor to go to. i am not telling you what to do. just don't tell ME i don't belong in this field just because i am a man.

 

[Cardsnurse]

hey...i agree with you 100%.

i am not telling you which doctor to go to. i am not telling you what to do. just don't tell ME i don't belong in this field just because i am a man.

Hey, I never "told" anyone to do anything. I just stated my opinion. Now, I dont mind men/women,whatever to do anything else, like I said. And perhaps if it werent for a couple lech Dr's when I was younger and couldnt speak up for myself, amybe my opinion might be different. But if I have a choice, I go to a female. I gave the reasons for this choice bvecause I was asked. I am only one person's opinion-- no need to attack me or get bent out of shape.

Cool?

 

[UCLAMAN]

And with all the specialties, I wonder why a man would specialize in women's genitalia/reproductive systems.

Just safer with a woman. Men can abuse things alot-- proven fact.

i believe these statements are basically implying that men have no place in OB/gyn. so yes, you were not specifically telling me per se not to go into the field. but you sure are questioning my gender's integrity and desire to enter the field and implying that there isn't a place for us in it.

not attacking you...just pointing out that what you say is not a "proven fact."

my apologies for using the term "girls." perhaps i should have used "female medical students" in that post?

...hey i'm cool...thanx for the entertainment/procrastination tonight!

 

[Cardsnurse]

i believe these statements are basically implying that men have no place in OB/gyn. so yes, you were not specifically telling me per se not to go into the field. but you sure are questioning my gender's integrity and desire to enter the field and implying that there isn't a place for us in it.

not attacking you...just pointing out that what you say is not a "proven fact."

my apologies for using the term "girls." perhaps i should have used "female medical students" in that post?

...hey i'm cool...thanx for the entertainment/procrastination tonight!

O.K. So now I am curious why this burning desire to go into OB/GYN you have...Can you share some of the fascination you have?* Or is it salary? Thanks (in all sincerity)

*I have none for this area- It was the only area in nursing school I couldn't wait to get over with-- med/surg (although this is a sub-specialty area of that) has been way more interesting-- just me though. I am curious...

 

[UCLAMAN]

O.K. So now I am curious why this burning desire to go into OB/GYN you have...Can you share some of the fascination you have?* Or is it salary? Thanks (in all sincerity)

*I have none for this area- It was the only area in nursing school I couldn't wait to get over with-- med/surg (although this is a sub-specialty area of that) has been way more interesting-- just me though. I am curious...

check your pm's in a bit.

 

[OBfan]

I am the last person to be chauvanistic, believe me. I would take male/female/green/blue whatever for anything else. Why would I question that? 1. from my experience with a couple, shall we say, unethical dr's as a young (HMO) patient (late teens) made me 'uncomfortable' then, in being so naivbe at that age, but still remember, and now know what the deal was, 2. Have heard some Dr's talk, not impressed (just look at some of these posts) 3. Think women are waaaaaaaayy more sensitive to this area, and not a large chance of being taken advantage of, or a closet lech, 4. Some might be closet lechs (do you remember that Dr and artificial insemination- he inseminmated his own sperm, remember? just one example) 5. would, if the tables are reversed, you want a woman to be a specialist in penis/scrotal/teste issues? especially reverse that if the culture had women dominant and focused on men visually the way this culture is now. And with all the specialties, I wonder why a man would specialize in women's genitalia/reproductive systems.

Just safer with a woman. Men can abuse things alot-- proven fact.

With statements like this you destroy any credibilty to whatever opinion you may have. Honestly, what planet are you from?lol...geees

 

[Cardsnurse]

With statements like this you destroy any credibilty to whatever opinion you may have. Honestly, what planet are you from?lol...geees

I guess this proves my point-- I will stick with women!!!!!