Yeah, the schedule where you don't think about work at all during your week off. Seems like it'd also be the best for hobbies and for travelling a lot. I wouldn't mind working every other weekend if it means more time to go places.
This. I love being 8-5 M-F. I enjoy a few extra hours per evening every day, having all the weekends, and that my schedule aligns with my spouses.
Depends how you define “decent vacation time”. I imagine 3-4 weeks a year is standard initially. Physicians who get paid based on productivity I’m sure can take more time off but would end up loosing pay. Seniority probably helps.
Myself and 5 of my 6 partners take at least 30 days off per year. I've taken 3 full weeks, a half dozen long weekends, 5 days over July 4th, and a 6 day weekend over Christmas.
Dam yall hiring! The more and more I look at things private seems worth the headache
Especially if you get divorced. You work 80 hours one week and have the kids 168 hours the following week. Rinse and repeat 😳
We are, but I didn't think you were heading for FM.
As a parent and someone who has had to bolus time with my kids due to the military, I 100% agree. It is much easier on them even if I only see them for a couple hours before bed almost every night than for me to be essentially gone for a week and then home for a week.
Beat me to it. I always say 7 on 7 off sounds like iatrogenic bipolar depression. I know I’d personally need a day or two just to feel like a person again after 7 on and then I’d spend the rest of the week off trying to distract myself from the dread of doing it again.
Same. I am a better parent seeing them regularly for less time each day. Personally, I also believe it provides a better representation as to what being an adult means in our society. We can argue about the merits of our relationship with work as Americans but the reality is that being an average adult means going to work most days of the week unfortunately. As a parent, I worry about setting unusual expectations about lifestyle/work during an already challenging transition to adulthood. I think everyone has some moment when they realize that most of their life will be spent working. Better have that younger than 18, IMO.
Working for pay is for suckers. I’m hoping I can find a way for my kids to make money without having to work.
That's only 32 hrs per week so you're essentially working part time. Would likely have to take a big paycut and you would pro probably be making at the very bottom percentiles of your specialty. More difficult to do right out of training, especially if you have high med school loans and kids to pay for.
Why big cut? Fulltime is 40/week, 32/week is 80% of that so I'd imagine you get 80% of the salary. 21% of physicians are working part time so I don't think 32/week would be "very bottom" percentile (at least in something like FM, PM&R or Psyc which are what I'm going for).
This is probably still the most common schedule for shift-based IM/FM hospitalists. But has its pros and cons.
I work ~36 hours/week (8-4 M-F 8-12 W), 90 minute lunch, discussed time off previously. My partners do similar. We're all above 90th percentile when it comes to pay. The trick is worked hard when you are at work.
How do you only have 4 weekends of call a year in ortho? Tons of partners?
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Depends on how your time is defined. I am in clinic 6 half days per week (broken up into 2 full days and 2 half days, so I'm physically in clinic 4 days per week), but am full time. The other 4 half days (M-F) I'm expected to be doing office work (following up on lab results, calling patients, doing other administrative activities, and some educational stuff cause I'm in academics). Many general pediatric practices have 4 days per week of clinic and 1 day of admin time to catch up on charting, patient calls, etc.
in psych there are a lot of 4 day a week jobs, schedule is typically 8-6 though and you see a large number of pts.
Tangential, but 32hrs/week is .8 FTEs which is considered full time in many jobs. That aside, the extent to which working this many hours per week will impact income as a physician is highly dependent on how reimbursement is structured (e.g., salary v. productivity v. salary + productivity), doesn’t relegate someone to the very bottom of their earning potential within their field, and definitely is doable right out of residency even with a family - just depends on priorities and numerous other factors.
Tons of partners, big group.
When you get out can largely depends on patient volume, which can fluctuate from day to day. The problem with being too efficient and leaving early in a shift-based job where you are paid by the hour (besides getting called back in) is that if your employer catches on, they may just argue that the patient volume doesn't justify the hours, and then just try to reduce your hours and pay and try to squeeze the same amount of work into a shorter (and thus lower-paying) shift.
That schedule is considered full time for dermatology. Although it’s usually 8-4
