Interview-Trail Impressions: version 2008

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Great interview day. Unfortunately got to the pre-interview dinner late so did not get to interact with residents too much, so this is all based on my interview day.

+'s: - Academic powerhouse with great fellowship opportunities, in-house and around the country. They hand out a match list, quite impressive.
- Research opportunities galore. The Duke Clinical Research Institute is an amazing research opportunity with projects literally waiting to be picked up and completed by residents.
- Cohesive and 'happy' residents (I put quotes because it is such a hard thing to assess in seven hours, but seemed happy)
- Great clinical training with EIP, Educational Innovation Project, a program 'to explore novel approaches to training'.
- New two week MICU rotation for interns at Durham Regional that is really popular with residents
- Parking payed for, good insurance, good benefits, family friendly
- Good cost of living in Durham--- Dirt cheap actually! Most residents bought 3 bedroom houses
- High level of Autonomy with almost total control as a JAR (PGY2)
- Nice Facilities

-'s:
- Front loaded with q4 call ALONE on wards as an intern
- Heirarchical with interns still wearing short coats (not that bad really)
- Interns looked pretty tired and stressed out, but JARS and SARS seemed to look a little more rested.
- Extremely high volume. Quote from resident, "well the call rooms are somewhere on this floor, but you never use them so it doesn't really matter"
- Durham isn't a very exciting place, but Chapel Hill is awesome
- Perhaps too EBM driven, have to cite literature on ALL admit H&Ps as a JAR and SAR
- Felt like it was just a Fellowship stepping stone (but I will prob do one so no big deal)
+/-:
-Subspecialty service structure. COPDers are admitted to pulm, CHF admitted to cards, etc. Unless they are newly diagnosed or not 'hooked in', then they go to gen med.

Overall: VERY impressive academic institution. My first interview so can't compare it to anything else, but liked what I saw and can see myself training there. PM me for an specifics.

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Another program I liked a lot. First, Scott and White is located in Temple, TX - at first I thought this was pretty random, but turns it out, the hospital started much the same may as the Mayo Clinic (they say Mayo got the idea from them! :D) and Temple is small compared to what most people would compare it to 60,000 people - this may be an issue for some - didn't bother me much.

The hospital is brand new with start of the art facilities, the new Cardiac Cath labs looked like something out of a sci-fi movie. Mostly computerized system, prog notes and orders are still written by hand, but this is soon to change.

Call is pretty much par for the course, with a night float system of which the residents seem quite proud - here's the breakdown: day 1, short call, until noon, day 2 short call until noon, day 3 long call until 8, and day 4 post call. At 8 on long call days, your admitting day is done, period, interns go home when floor work is done, night float intern does cross-cover - no admission. Admission at night are done by one of three non-teaching hospitalist teams, which carry the patients - no handoff(!) - unless the hospitalist team in agreement with the chief residents think that a patient in overnight would be a great teaching case. Short call days teams cap at 3 admission and/or transfers, and on long call days teams cap at 10 admissions and/or transfers. Nice. The IM service is busy and teams usually cap their quotas, most interns carry 6-8 patients.

MICU and CCU call is overnight and split between the number of interns (categoricals, prelims, and offservice) on the service so call might be as much as q6.

Lots of teaching - morning report 30 minutes in the morning. Conference at lunch, and a few times per week an hour in the afternoon.

There is a VA in town but you don't spend much time there - which is unfortunate because I like the VA patient population, but it's not a deal breaker. (Call is overnight at the VA - only 1 month 1st year)

Cardiology and Cancer research oppourtunities for any who want them - they are research facilities devoted to both.

LOTS of fellowship oppourtunities (everything but Rheum and Endo, but Endo coming soon) and Scott and White seems to likes to keep their own for these spots. The program will match you with a mentor early on if your are interested in fellowship and they do their best to to help you find a spot somewhere.

Considerable referral area, ~2 million folks, considering that Dallas, San Antonio, and Houston are all about 2 hours away.

Residents happy, smiling, friendly, and rested. They really, really like the program.

PD's friendly, funny, easy to approach. Resident's find them to be good advocates.

Overall, I'd say GREAT program.
 
Current Duke housestaff here. A couple of clarifications on things mentioned by normansatx:

- New two week MICU rotation for interns at Durham Regional that is really popular with residents
As an intern, you spend 2 weeks in the DRH MICU plus 4 weeks in the Duke CCU, or vice versa. Who gets what is currently randomly assigned, but this may change in the future.

-'s:
- Front loaded with q4 call ALONE on wards as an intern
normansatx is referring to our 3 subspecialty months (ie. cardiology, pulmonary/renal, and oncology), when you take call alone as an intern. Backup exists in the form of floating residents (in the first 2-3 months of internship) and/or "hospitalists" (moonlighting fellows, often from cardiology or pulm/cc, but can be from any of the IM subspecialties), though upper levels in the MICU and CCU are always available and happy to assist. Gotta love the moonlighting pulm/cc fellows, who are never less than awesome when you are in a bind.

You take call as a team on Gen Med and in the ICU/CCU.

- Extremely high volume.
I didn't necessarily expect this coming to Duke, since Durham and NC in general are not the most populated areas of the county. I'm coming from a med school with a large urban county hospital (think LA County, Parkland, Grady-level hospitals), so I'm certainly familiar with high patient volume. Still, Duke Hospital is a bustling place that serves the dual purposes of being the main hospital for the city of Durham and a major referral center in the southeast (from as far as West Virginia to Kentucky to Tennessee to Georgia). In my short time here, I've already had a number of patients who would bypass several major academic centers en route to seek care at Duke.

-Subspecialty service structure. COPDers are admitted to pulm, CHF admitted to cards, etc. Unless they are newly diagnosed or not 'hooked in', then they go to gen med.
The intern year is a pretty decent mix of general medicine and subspecialty services. As mentioned above, the subspecialty services are cardiology, pulmonary/renal (you do one or the other by day, and crosscover both at night), and oncology. That's a total of 3 months. The rest of the year you spend in gen med, ICU/CCU, or ambulatory clinics.
 
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Thanks for the extra info! Like I said, I loved the program and was super impressed. What you added only made it better! Thanks Nexus, you guys put on a great interview day in Durham.
 
Thanks for chiming in . . . it's all about finding the right fit, and your thoughts probably put this program somewhere on your list but not at the top nor at the bottom. Allows some folks to get more than one perspective which is a good thing for this thread.

Personally, I thought the morning report was pretty par for the course, and I liked that they brought up teaching points pertinent to the previous day's report. The case my interview day was pretty wild, and I didn't see anything done that I haven't seen done at many other morning report. Truth is, I don't know how to really spice one of these up . . .

I am curious though, how one assesses "academic strength"? Did you think the teaching wasn't good or that the "reputation" was "less than"? And, for the purpose of giving people here a better understanding, what was your comparator? Or was it just more of a "gut feeling"?

I personally didn't ask about the black patient population, and maybe falsely assumed that since there is a VA one would definitely see black patients considering the armed force's high percentage of blacks who serve their country. Although, I'm not personally convinced that not seeing many blacks would hurt my ability to treat blacks when done with training - there are some diseases that a higher prevalence in the black cohort, but there is nothing about those particular diseases that I think would require me to spend large amounts of time with this population in order to treat them. I appreciate your concern, will probably also be a concern of others, and it's a consideration I'm glad you raised.

Agree with the above.

Morning report was compared to other programs as well as my home program. I would say this program is similar to my home program in terms of the quality of the residents and teaching. I thought the didactics at Emory and UChicago was superb. Morning report at Colorado and Northwestern was also excellent. UofU was a little below these. Anyways it's not all about morning report and I don't want to sound like I didn't like the program because I could definitely see myself there.

The AA population concern was more sickle cell experience and yes other more advanced diseases that present in this population. SLC is very clean and safe, and doesn't have as much indigent patients which I don't necessarily LOVE but find needed for a good experience and full education. You do get GREAT rural medicine which can also present similar to VA and indigent patients. One resident even said he saw myxedema coma (rare!).

Academic in terms of research projects ongoing for the residents were less than what I've seen. Most people want to do hospitalist or primary care which is fine. Most match fellowships (GI/Cards) at Utah which is also fine. I'd like to have the option to go away though if possible.

Last thing - the PD is awesome. Great resident advocate, excellent clinician and probably one of the friendliest and charismatic I've seen on the trail. Was interested in all of us and showed genuine desire for us to be there. All in all a top tier (top 30) program hands down.
 
Anyone out there travel today to get to the Northeast/Philly/NYC area? Can we say 7 hour wait in Chicago? Can we say I had to fly into another city and drive frozen snowed out roads for 2 hours to get to my destination whilst coming close to being hit by other drivers 2x only to miss the dinner and get to my hotel at 2 am to wake up for the interview at 6:30 am?

Can we say...aaaaaaaaaagggggggghhhhhhh
 
Oh noes! Sorry, that sounds like it really sucks. :( Hopefully you rocked the interview anyway. :luck:
 
Anyone out there travel today to get to the Northeast/Philly/NYC area? Can we say 7 hour wait in Chicago? Can we say I had to fly into another city and drive frozen snowed out roads for 2 hours to get to my destination whilst coming close to being hit by other drivers 2x only to miss the dinner and get to my hotel at 2 am to wake up for the interview at 6:30 am?

Can we say...aaaaaaaaaagggggggghhhhhhh

I was at the same interview as you, because I heard your story from someone else there. If it makes you feel any better it took me 6 hours to do a drive that normally takes 2 to get there. I know not as bad you, but I know misery loves company. The associate PD joked that all the people who showed up today should be put at the top of the list. :laugh:
 
Rolling my eyes that USC will train you to "take care of sick people better than anywhere in the country"...quite a subjective claim.

Biting my tongue because the numbers speak for themselves: a little over 2 residents match in cards each year...the most objective data provided.

I'm sure someone might say "maybe only 2 chose cards," however, it's highly unlikely that USC is the only program in the country with 4% of its housestaff choosing this subspecialty.

I'm sure USC is a great program(I haven't bothered to look), but gimme a break...

In the words of B. A. Baracus, "The numbers don't jive, turkey!"

Yeah as I disclaimer I did not look at USC because I have no interest in living in LA, but a close friend of mine is a 4th year medical student there and told me that very few of his classmates are going into medicine largely because of how unimpressed they were with the medicine service there.

His words (not mine) when asked why he didn't consider IM were "I just never considered medicine because the IM service at my school is the joke of the hospital."

Anecdotal I know, but didn't inspire confidence...
 
pd
seemed like a nice guy. didn't really say anything about the poor reputation that the USC medicine department seems to have among applicants and USC med students. the pd gave the tour of the program himself, which seemed odd, but maybe he's just that hands on. unfortunately, he's been the pd for 13 years and the program still is considered by many to be the worst in LA.

chair
briefly met the chair during the lunch. seemed like a friendly guy but not someone who really interacts that much with the residents.

residents
we only got to meet about 5 residents. when i asked one applicant from USC where the other residents were, she said, "they're working... welcome to county." the residents did seem happy though. they said they hung out a lot outside of the hospital and had a lot of happy hours. over 50% not married. diverse group. some FMGs.

faculty
faculty seemed friendly during the interviews. i talked to a resident alone and he said there definitely is not a malignant atmosphere at all in terms of relationships between faculty and residents.

patients
extremely diverse patient population. this seems to be the main drawing point of the program. you see the most exotic path b/c the LA county hospital doesn't turn away anyone. residents said they saw things like tetrology of fallot presenting in adults. it seemed like the great thing about USC is that pts present with strange symptoms and residents get the first crack at figuring out what's going on unlike some other tertiary university centers where pts show up with a diagnosis from an outside hospital.

conferences
strangely, we didn't get to see morning report. everyone shows up at the hospital at 7am. there is no prerounding. (although one USC med student i talked to said some residents make their teams preround before the 7am lecture!) everyone attends lecture from 7-8am. teams do work rounds from 8-10am. residents (not interns) go to morning report from 10-11am. the intern just does work during this time. attending rounds are from 11am-1pm. the attendings usually do not round on every patient on the service everyday (strange).

sites/facilities
the old county hospital is pretty awful. pts are 5 to a room and the building looks like it's falling apart. i don't know why they took us on a tour of the place if the new hospital is set to open in may 2008. a lot of us wondered if we probably would end up working in the old building for about 6 months if we came to USC. at the end of the interview, there was an optional tour of the new $1 billion hospital. most of us stayed, and it was worth it. the new building is beautiful! 600 beds, state of the art. new clinic building (some clinics will still be in the old clinic building unfortunately). 3 cath labs, 5 CT scanners, 3 MRIs. it def seemed like a great place to work. the question is will it be open before next year's interns start. regardless, it should be open by september 2008.

apparently, the keck donation to the USC medical school was made to turn the campus into a research center. that is the eventual goal of the place. this probably won't happen for about 10 years, but you can already see that a lot of changes are being made to the medical center and a lot of construction going on.

location
the program is located just outside of downtown LA. residents live all over LA.

schedule
with the move to the new building, interns will only have 8-9 blocks of call (there are 13 4 week blocks total during the intern year). call is q4. guaranteed golden weekend every month. one black weekend (you work both days). one day off on the other 2 weekends of the block. days off are always on the wknd (sweet). residents leave between 1-3pm when they're not on call (sounds awesome if it's true).

research
seemed like there is a growing emphasis on research. med students i talked to said if you want to do research/get a fellowship you need to do a lot of legwork on your own.

cards fellowships
2007 - 3 @ usc
2006 - 3 total, 1 @ usc, 2 @ new york
2005 - 1 @ boston
2004 - 3 @ usc, 1 @ florida

GI fellowships
2007 - 4 total, 1 @ usc, 1 @ loma linda, 1 @ wash u st louis, 1 @ chicago
2006 - 3 @ usc
2005 - 3 @ usc
2004 - 3 @ usc

salary
pgy1 - 42,676
pgy2 - 47,774
pgy3 - 51,732
pgy4 - 55,746

overall
i liked the program. residents have tons of autonomy and see the best pathology as far as i can tell. fellowships are doable but you need to get the ball rolling on your own. the salary is great and there is free food 3 times per day. i could see USC being a great program in the future, but you can't really predict what life in the new hospital will be like. it probably will be better than the current situation, but it still will be a county hospital with all the problems that come with that.
 
USC MS IV here. Thought I'd clarify a bit about the USC program, as I've been mentioned in DJ's post. :)

- Morning Report: Morning report is 9-10 AM from M-F, and attended by R2, R3s, and med students who are currently on medicine wards, and it's usually facilitated by one of the medicine attendings or sometimes one of the chief residents. Two cases are presented by residents, and a subspecialist is present to discuss the cases. (So the topic area switches every day- cards, gi, pulm... etc). So the way it works is that one resident presents the case, another reads the chest x-ray/ekg, and then another is sort of "put on the spot," albeit in a very non-threatening, nice way, to come up with a differential, workup plan... etc.

- Rounding: Some attendings round on every patient every day, others round on the news, needy, but table round on the others, in which case you would finish before 12 noon.

- Facilities: Having done away rotations at very nice academic programs that have such things as private rooms (aka, you don't need to have TB to get a room to yourself, haha), I definitely agree with you that County is rather lacking in this respect. While the opening of the new building at County has been delayed- it was supposed to really have opened two years ago during my medical school training- everything I've heard really points toward it opening in 2008 and not later.

- Fellowships: I'm probably treading on thin ground here given the previous posts in this thread- cardiology fellowship match is probably not the highlight of USC's program. However, the fellowship program director changed in 2005 or so, and since then, the new person has been a much stronger help to residents applying for cardiology. The GI department is excellent, and there are plenty of research opportunities and the most of faculty are well-known around the country.

- And finally, faculty: There are definitely fantastic faculty members here at USC, especially in the subspecialty departments (Endocrine, GI, ID all come to mind right away- the others departments I haven't personally had as much experience with). Here is where I think the weakness to USC medicine program is- there is a rather high turnover of general medicine attendings, which leads to overall, a much younger group of medicine attendings than I've seen at other medicine powerhouses. Not that there's anything wrong with younger attendings, as I've worked with them and they do teach, but being in a County setting, where sometimes a bit of muscle (read: attending relationships with other departments, etc) is required to getting things done, having the bulk of medicine attendings be only 2 or 3 years out of their training can be tough.

- Overall, I think USC is one of those places that requires a bit more self-motivation to get the most out of it. It's not a bad place to go if you want to do more hospitalist work, or perhaps a subspecialty, but it may not be the best place for those looking for a better ambulatory experience.

If anyone has any more questions about USC- message me. I'd be happy to talk more about it, as I don't think there were enough residents there to talk to us today either (and yes, the residents were working :) and at morning report today- the ones who came were on ambulatory rotation).
 
Pre-interview dinner

Highly recommend going as it gives you a chance to get the real scoop on Wake Forest. Residents for the most part got along and where very down to earth. Even got a "welcome bag" as a thanks for coming.

Interview day.

Make sure you do what the invitation to interview email suggests. Meet the resident in the lobby area so they can take u to the conference room. The place is kind of like a maze and finding the conference room was a little tricky.

PD:

A nice guy. Seems very personable and overall a nice person--although can appear to be a bit spacey from time to time.

Residents:

Most are from the southeast. All seemed very happy

Hospital:

The area around the hospital is very nice and the hospital itself is pretty cool. The MICU is a little creepy and run down, however they are in the process of building a new floor for the MICU



Pro's

A decent match list for fellowships with most resident's matching into fellowship of their choice. Cards is very popular and boasts about a 90 percent match rate.

Residents seem very cool, laid back and not malignant

Excellent night float with good back up. Interns do not stay past 6 pm, interns take night float however good opportunity for autonomy during this time

Einstein bagel open almost 24 hours (closed between 3 and 6 am)

Area around the hospital is nice

Winston Salem has great weather and is a pleasant town if you're married with kids.


Cons

No GI ward service. Attendings seem not to be interested in rounding with Gen Med team as compromise

Oddly enough they have a leukemia service but no GI medicine service.. interesting i though

MICU seems a bit depressing and run down. but as i mentioned they are in the process of revamping

NO DIVERSITY. about 90 percent of housestaff are white and most are from the southeast

Winston Salem is a nice town however if you are single, there isn't much to do
 
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University of Washington

Overall: Incredible interview despite the cold and rainy weather. Dr. Steinberg is the man! Young and enthusiastic about changing the weaknesses of the program and keeping all the strong points. Is looking to make it a closer knit place. Will rank very highly. Most of the problems we hear on old posts seem resolved. They definitely "brought it" on my interview day...

+'s: Great clinical experiance with three hospitals + WWAMI. Harborview, the county, takes care of a really underserved population but is nice. UWMC is a great tertiary care center seeing transplants, cancer, etc. The VA is a tertiary care VA that sees all the complicated cases from around WWAMI and norcal, and is very nice. Good fellowship placement, but a very strong focus on GIM with about 60/40 going into subspecialty/hospitalist. Seattle is a great city with tons of culture. Residents were very nice on pre-interview day and during the interview. Faculty very friendly. Facilities great. New mentoring program provides a clinical mentor within three months of getting there and guiding you through your residency. Strongest departments are ID and PULM/CC.

-'s: Still a gigantic program in which you can get lost if you're not careful. Seattle weather is not very good, especially during winter. Didn't see many interns (because they had arthocentesis day!) Worked very very hard, and they admit to it. Old-school overnight call system (not bad, better than most top programs). Seattle is pricey compared to where I live, but cheapter than Boston, NYC, or Chicago. Seems like a lot of them go onto fellowships within the NW. Dont know about Cards and GI placement. They provided a list of people and where they matched, Cards was very strong within the NW and california, but not many going east.​
 
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I agree with the above post mostly, however, I would like to add that most of the cards/GI fellowship opps are in the NW and are rather strong. When you extend them to the rest of the country, it becomes a hit or miss thing. Not sure if it's because people want to stay in the NW or what but most people are matching around and less are going East (Chicago, NYC, New England).

Great program though.
 
Anyone care to share their impression of University of Michigan program, or their interview day? thanks
 
I agree with the above post mostly, however, I would like to add that most of the cards/GI fellowship opps are in the NW and are rather strong. When you extend them to the rest of the country, it becomes a hit or miss thing. Not sure if it's because people want to stay in the NW or what but most people are matching around and less are going East (Chicago, NYC, New England).

Great program though.


People in the program just love the area and program so they stay in the area. According to one faculty member there, there was a time when one fellowship dept required fellows to promise to practice out of the state once they finished as the region was becoming saturated with them.
 
Anyone care to share their impression of University of Michigan program, or their interview day? thanks

Here's the breakdown for UMich.

Pre-Interview Dinner: Dinner at an Irish pub, food was not so great but you get good face time with the residents. During the dinner the residents seemed very nice and informative, no sense of arrogance at all. The residents do get to hang out with each other outside of the hospital.


Format of Interview day: Excellent presentation of the program. The best by far, I really got a good sense of the program. You then have 3 post lunch interviews, 2 with faculty members (based on your reported interests) and also a program or associate program director. The interviews are very low key and relaxed mainly asking for any questions regarding the program. The interview day was unique as all program associates shake hands with all the applicants.

Call Sessions/Team Limit: The UMich had a problem with residents being slammed in the past so they have come up with a few very innovative ideas. The limit of patients is 6 as opposed to 8 and your call session ends at midnight after that you just crosscover and the resident takes and admits the patient. The patient does end up going on your team in the end I think. I also want to say that they have a hospitalist team that takes any overflow. The program also has hired resident assistants. They are former secretaries/clerks within the hospital and they help you out with the paperwork involved with ordering tests or arranging follow up. The whole aim for that position is to get residents out before the 30hour limit.

Other Benefits:
1. The program buys everyone laptops that they can use in the hospital to input orders and notes. You can take the laptop home and use it for personal use but it has to be returned unfortunately when you complete residency.
2. Sign on bonus is roughly $3,000? or more, can't remember specifically.
3. Very strong GI and Cards fellowships, they also have very well known GI docs (excellent for LORs)

Patient Population: Patients for UMich are generally middle class with insurance (hence the program has a lot of money). You also get to rotate at the VA which is the nicest VA in the country. They also get a small percentage (5%) of patients from neighbouring areas and the middle east regions with Zebras.

Area: Ann Arbor is a college town with a local feel. Visit Zingelman's it is a deli that is very, very good. I stayed at the Microtel which has all the basics you need.

Resident Make-up: Majority of residents are from the Midwest area with others from the SUNY program and California programs.

Pros:
1. Great PD - Every program says this but I really believed it. He seemed to care a lot about the program. Faculty members also stated that he was one of the program's central assets.
2. Very supportive: The fact that you get a laptop which you can use to input orders, the resident assistant, adapted team limit really shows that UMich really wants intern year to be bearable. Everyone says intern year is hell but from all the benefits it seems as if the UMich intern year isn't as bad.
3. Hospital Resources: The hospital is in no danger of experiencing financial difficulties. The hospital itself looks extremely nice and very modern.
4. Ann Arbor: It's a college town yes but it is very safe and a pleasant town where everyone seemed nice.
5. GI/Cards: Very good Cards and GI fellowship here.


Cons/In-betweens:
Some of these were cons for me but may be pros for others.
1. Little to no indigent care: No indigent care, the program does say "but we have the VA" but that really isn't indigent care at all. Some do not like it but I love the IVDUs, illegal immigrant population so it was a downer for me.
2. Regional Residents: Most of the resident are from the Midwest area which to me was a con as I like a program with people from other areas of the country. Nothing against people from the mdiwest so please don't read anything into that.
3. Residents admitted that they had excellent knowledge with regards to the hospital setting but felt a little deficient with the primary care setting. The program is seekig to improve their primary care rotation.

Overall:
A very supportive program with good clinical teachers especially for GI. The research opportunity also allows good fellowship placement. I don't think this program is as strong if you are thinking about primary care though. I actually don't plan to rank the program or rank it low due to a couple of, lets say, 'vibe' things that related to me.
 
Hey Linus,

I was just curious to see that you raved about U of M program but at the end you say you will rank them low or not at all given "vibes". Could you please elaborate on this?? Thanks
 
Can anybody interviewed at these two programs share some experiences and impressions about them? Thanks,
 
I just visited Brown and am curious what others thought of Brown. I'm diong med-peds and would like to know what people thought of the med side.

Thanks.
 
Hey Linus,

I was just curious to see that you raved about U of M program but at the end you say you will rank them low or not at all given "vibes". Could you please elaborate on this?? Thanks


Hey Duke2001, Yeah no prob, sorry for the delay in reply. During the interview day they really did not show me any interest in me as candidate. First of all they spelt my name worng on my badge, not just a little wrong but badly wrong. Plus they just didn't seem to want to talk to me at all. I really wished that they would have rejected me rather let me spend the money to get there. That's the vibe thing. It would be unfair though to the program and the people on SDN to be bitter and write off the program as I do think it is a strong program. I want to be honest and say that I don'y plan to rank it but I also wanted to give an honest portrayal of the program itself. Hope that helps.
 
Here's the breakdown for UVa.

Pre-Interview Dinner: Dinner at an Italian restaurant. Failed to go to the dinner as I was sick but apparently it was a lot of fun.

If you have extra time: Uva has a beautiful campus and the downtown area is nice. Parking is cheap and right by the downtown area. Check out Five Guys which has awesome fries (cooked in peanut oil), there is also a really nice ice cream place downtown Gellato something I think..all very good.

If you want an awesome skin infection: Check in to the Days Inn there..good grief it was terrible. Smelt of mould and every time I turned on the shower it smelled like a sweaty gym lockeroom. It was pretty expensive too so definitely priceline something. Renting a car from Charlottesville airport was super cheap at $17 a day.

Format of Interview day: Initial presentation of the program, morning report and then two interviews. 1 interview will be with an intern selection committe and the second will be a faculty member. The interviews are very low key and relaxed mainly asking for any questions regarding the program.

Call Sessions: No overnight call there is a night intern for that. The UVa website actually has a really good description of a call day. From memory I believe they get off at 8pm and the night intern comes on and leaves the following morning.

Area: Charlottesville is a very picturesque college town.

Observations:
So I'm not going to give any pros or cons just some observations, you decide for yourself.

1. Great PD, very personable and enthusiastic. Radiated a relaxed aura and just seemed to be a friendly guy.
2. The residents were hilarious, I am still laughing at a joke one of the residents made :laugh:. They were very collegial and were perhaps the most impressive during morning report.
3. The 5 year fellowship placements on the website are very strong to programs like Duke, Mayo, JHU, CCF etc. A closer look shows that most of these matches occured 4 or 5 years ago with the last 2 years showing heavier direction towards UVa fellowships. At this point I really don't see that as a bad thing I mean once you apply to fellowship it seems like a lot of people have already settled down with family and really don't want to move with kids.
4. The fellowship diversity was incredible large numbers went into Endocrinology and Nephro as well as GI, Card, Pul/CC. Talking with residents it seems that the program has a very strong Endocrine fellowship and you get to work with these attendings as a resident very closely.
5. UVa also have their own journal for publications.
6. Research is a requirement to complete the residency program.
Now for the alarm bells, sadly

1. Every 5 minutes during interview 1 the phrase "I don't think I'm doing a good job trying to convince you to come here" despite the fact that I really did like the program.
2. Interviewer 2 spent the whole talking about another program to the point that I started to defend UVa.
3. Disgruntled residents stated that the EMR was horrible and the computer system was really outdated (MSDOS based with little to no change on updating it from its 1988 conception).


Overall:
Charlottesville is a great town, prior to my interview I really was enthusiastic about the program but after my experiences I will steer clear from this program. If anyone else had a good experience I certainly encourage them to post it as well as any residents within the program.
 
Here's the breakdown for UVa.

Pre-Interview Dinner: Dinner at an Italian restaurant. Failed to go to the dinner as I was sick but apparently it was a lot of fun.

If you have extra time: Uva has a beautiful campus and the downtown area is nice. Parking is cheap and right by the downtown area. Check out Five Guys which has awesome fries (cooked in peanut oil), there is also a really nice ice cream place downtown Gellato something I think..all very good.

If you want an awesome skin infection: Check in to the Days Inn there..good grief it was terrible. Smelt of mould and every time I turned on the shower it smelled like a sweaty gym lockeroom. It was pretty expensive too so definitely priceline something. Renting a car from Charlottesville airport was super cheap at $17 a day.

Format of Interview day: Initial presentation of the program, morning report and then two interviews. 1 interview will be with an intern selection committe and the second will be a faculty member. The interviews are very low key and relaxed mainly asking for any questions regarding the program.

Call Sessions: No overnight call there is a night intern for that. The UVa website actually has a really good description of a call day. From memory I believe they get off at 8pm and the night intern comes on and leaves the following morning.

Area: Charlottesville is a very picturesque college town.

Observations:
So I'm not going to give any pros or cons just some observations, you decide for yourself.

1. Great PD, very personable and enthusiastic. Radiated a relaxed aura and just seemed to be a friendly guy.
2. The residents were hilarious, I am still laughing at a joke one of the residents made :laugh:. They were very collegial and were perhaps the most impressive during morning report.
3. The 5 year fellowship placements on the website are very strong to programs like Duke, Mayo, JHU, CCF etc. A closer look shows that most of these matches occured 4 or 5 years ago with the last 2 years showing heavier direction towards UVa fellowships. At this point I really don't see that as a bad thing I mean once you apply to fellowship it seems like a lot of people have already settled down with family and really don't want to move with kids.
4. The fellowship diversity was incredible large numbers went into Endocrinology and Nephro as well as GI, Card, Pul/CC. Talking with residents it seems that the program has a very strong Endocrine fellowship and you get to work with these attendings as a resident very closely.
5. UVa also have their own journal for publications.
6. Research is a requirement to complete the residency program.
Now for the alarm bells, sadly

1. Every 5 minutes during interview 1 the phrase "I don't think I'm doing a good job trying to convince you to come here" despite the fact that I really did like the program.
2. Interviewer 2 spent the whole talking about another program to the point that I started to defend UVa.
3. Disgruntled residents stated that the EMR was horrible and the computer system was really outdated (MSDOS based with little to no change on updating it from its 1988 conception).


Overall:
Charlottesville is a great town, prior to my interview I really was enthusiastic about the program but after my experiences I will steer clear from this program. If anyone else had a good experience I certainly encourage them to post it as well as any residents within the program.

It's funny because when I interviewed at UVA, my boyfriend and I went to the downtown mall, ate at Five Guys, pigged out on fries, and then went to Gellato for dessert.

I know SDN is supposed to be anonymous, but ARE YOU MY BOYFRIEND? :laugh:
 
Thanks a lot for the clarification and getting back to me :) I wish you the best of luck during your interview process

Hey Duke2001, Yeah no prob, sorry for the delay in reply. During the interview day they really did not show me any interest in me as candidate. First of all they spelt my name worng on my badge, not just a little wrong but badly wrong. Plus they just didn't seem to want to talk to me at all. I really wished that they would have rejected me rather let me spend the money to get there. That's the vibe thing. It would be unfair though to the program and the people on SDN to be bitter and write off the program as I do think it is a strong program. I want to be honest and say that I don'y plan to rank it but I also wanted to give an honest portrayal of the program itself. Hope that helps.
 
It's funny because when I interviewed at UVA, my boyfriend and I went to the downtown mall, ate at Five Guys, pigged out on fries, and then went to Gellato for dessert.

I know SDN is supposed to be anonymous, but ARE YOU MY BOYFRIEND? :laugh:


Hello there darling. hahaha. Actually that is funny as I pigged out on Five guys and went straight to Gellato afterwards.
 
Just wondering if anyone is receiving post-interview follow-up letters? I understand they're pretty much useless, but I must admit, they do make me feel a little more secure with the Match!

I've heard from Wash U, Yale, and Ohio State, each with wording like "we can say that based on historical data, you would be highly likely to match here should you choose to do so."

Has anyone heard from Duke or Mayo Rochester?
 
Just wondering if anyone is receiving post-interview follow-up letters? I understand they're pretty much useless, but I must admit, they do make me feel a little more secure with the Match!

I've heard from Wash U, Yale, and Ohio State, each with wording like "we can say that based on historical data, you would be highly likely to match here should you choose to do so."

Has anyone heard from Duke or Mayo Rochester?

Were these letters like in the regular mail, or e-mail? Also, was it in response to your thank-you notes or just spontaneous? Just curious. I have gotten no such letters. :-(
 
Were these letters like in the regular mail, or e-mail? Also, was it in response to your thank-you notes or just spontaneous? Just curious. I have gotten no such letters. :-(


One after I sent a thank-you, the other two spontaneously... Several people on the interview trail told me they were getting these letters... Don't know if they were fabricating, or if lots of programs are doing this...??
 
One after I sent a thank-you, the other two spontaneously... Several people on the interview trail told me they were getting these letters... Don't know if they were fabricating, or if lots of programs are doing this...??

Lots of programs are doing this, hell, a few will even tell you at the interview that they like you and if you rank them, you'll likely match
 
Hey Duke2001, Yeah no prob, sorry for the delay in reply. During the interview day they really did not show me any interest in me as candidate. First of all they spelt my name worng on my badge, not just a little wrong but badly wrong. Plus they just didn't seem to want to talk to me at all. I really wished that they would have rejected me rather let me spend the money to get there. That's the vibe thing. It would be unfair though to the program and the people on SDN to be bitter and write off the program as I do think it is a strong program. I want to be honest and say that I don'y plan to rank it but I also wanted to give an honest portrayal of the program itself. Hope that helps.

I must apologize for your poor experience, spelling your name incorrectly is poor form. I'll pass along the mistake to our chief's.
 
Sorry this is kinda long, guys.
Review of a number of Chicago IM (traditional) programs

Wrote this up to help myself, but thought some folks might find it useful. A few things to note to help you take all this in context- I’m NOT from Chicago, and I plan on pursuing a GI fellowship. These are also not put in any particular rank- just in the order I interviewed. I tried my best to be objective, but again, these are just my impressions, so please clarify if I’ve made any factual mistakes. Also, feel free to disagree, comment- I always appreciate other people’s insights!

1) University of Chicago
Overall: A very academic environment with research focus, lots of research opportunities (basic science and clinical), an impressive match list. Particularly strong GI program, if you’re interested in IBD, GI onc, most GI disorders, but not strong for liver. Possibly the most “personal attention” interview day on the Chicago circuit- Associate PD and PD greeted everyone in the morning, chatted individually with all of us- definitely knew our application files backward and forward from memory (it seems, anyway). Smaller program, where it seems like the residents are well taken care of (breakfast and lunch generally provided by the Dept). Heard the international rotation in India was pretty awesome from one of the ID fellows. Schedule is really not as bad as it seems on paper with q4, which residents actually voted to keep.
PD: Friendly, approachable, has been at UofC since residency. Per the residents, really supportive, approachable.
The Chair: Did not get to meet the Chair, as he was out sick, but heard his spiel delivered by the PD – focus again mostly on research, with disparities research included. Pulm/CC guy who runs his own lab.
Residents: Friendly people, most from Midwest and East Coast. Very knowledgeable at morning report, and laid back (especially compared to some other ‘academic programs’).
Faculty: Spoke with some GI faculty- at interviews, rounds, conference- they are fantastic. Very open to working with residents, very good at teaching. They also all conduct research, and I got the impression it’s very much “bench to bedside” type of approach.
Patients: UofC definitely liked to stress that they had a very diverse set of patients with a wide variety of pathology (being a tertiary referral center) and wide range of socioeconomic factors. But for those who really like taking care of the indigent homeless population, I’ve heard that UofC is no longer accepting new Medicaid patients- is this true?
Conferences: Got a chance to go the resident morning report not on interview day- very strong morning report, with MKSAP review. Noon conferences are also very strong. I was particularly impressed by the Grand Rounds- very well known speakers, great attendance and participation by the entire medicine department.
Sites/Facilities: UofC mainly. UofC is still papercharting, although labs and films are on the computer.
Location: Not particularly the best surrounding location- although Hyde Park seems like a nice place for families. Most residents live further north, downtown, Lincoln Park. But only 15-20 min on Lake Shore away from downtown, so not bad.
Schedule: Q4 overnight on “Big” Gen Med (with night float covering admits after 1 AM and crosscover), Cards, Heme/Onc, MICU, Q3 CCU, Q3 admitting Leukemia and “Little” Gen Med(but no overnight)
Interns: 7.5 months inpatient (including 1 month of cards, MICU, Heme/Onc, Leukemia, 0.5 months of CCU, and 1 month of either Heme/Onc, Cards, Leuk, or MICU), 1 month inpatient, 0.5 months consults, 1 month geriatrics, 1 month outpaitnt, 4 weeks vacay + 1 week at the end of the year.
Schedule gets better with 2nd, 3rd year- with rotations through each of the subspecialities, and most consult services, with some rotations on Gen Med at MacNeal Hospital.
Research: opportunities in both basic and clinical, and research in health care disparities. Spoke with a resident who was pursuing an MBA at UofC during residency, of which PD and program was very supportive of work in other departments. Heme/Onc was brought up as particularly great for research. Lots of encouragement for abstract submissions to ACP, conferences. Funding for conference travel, etc.
Fellowship 2007: 11 Cards (Cornell, BWH, UofC, Tufts, UIC, UT Southwestern, Emory, Cleveland), 5 Heme Onc (Loyola, Sloan-Kettering, Cleveland, UofC, Stanford), 3 ID (UofC, UCSF), 1 Pulm/CC (UofC), 1 Nephrology (UCSF), 4 GI(UofC, BWH, UT Southwestern, Rush)

2) Rush University
Overall: A very strong clinical program that its interview day does not do it full justice. A few things that make it unique- Rush’s ER is staffed by Med or Surg residents, so residents do 3 months of ER instead of 1. Preinterview dinner at Pompei was pretty awesome- I had a lot of fun, and the residents were having a good time. They did let me know about the unique interview day. GI seems quite strong at Rush as well (most of them came from Loyola recently), although much more clinical than UofC. Also opportunities to do ID, HIV over at Cook County if you so choose.
PD: Just recently switched to a new PD who has been APD for a number of years. Seemed friendly enough. The old PD, who is very approachable, is now an APD, but because he’s also managing curriculum now on the med school side, it seems.
The Chair: The Chair ran the morning report, which was an interesting setup (one resident presenting to him).
Residents: Residents mostly from the Chicago area, but very nice. They didn’t seem as tired for q4 call. Again, one of the highlights was the pre-interview dinner at Pompei- residents were all very sociable, very friendly, loved the program.
Faculty: Spoke with some GI faculty- at interviews. Very approachable, also seemed broad and varied in different aspects of GI. Rush does a lot of liver transplants, so there is a lot of transplant hepatology experience, it seems.
Patients: Residents say that there is a lot of patient diversity, but I didn’t really get a chance to get a feel about this one way or the other.
Conferences: Didn’t really get a chance to evaluate this aspect of it- but the residents state noon conference is generally pretty good.
Sites/Facilities: Rush mainly, with 2 months of inpatient at Cook County, 1 month inpatient at Rush North Shore for community aspect. Note: free parking!
Location: Very close to downtown about 10 minutes by car, also right by El. Across the street or so from UIC.
Schedule: Q4 overnight, 8.5 inpatient months; 1 ER, 1 vacation, 1.5 ambulatory, 1 subspeciality. No chance to do research block first year, but call lightens up to 4-5 senior years with much more elective time.
Research: opportunities in both basic and clinical, and research in health care disparities. Spoke with a resident who was pursuing an MBA at UofC during residency, of which PD and program was very supportive of work in other departments. Heme/Onc was brought up as particularly great for research. Lots of encouragement for abstract submissions to ACP, conferences. Funding for conference travel, etc.
Fellowship 2007: Cards (Rush x 2, UMissouri, Wisconsin), Pulm/CC (Rush, Loyola), GI (Rush x 3, Dartmouth), Endo (Rush), Rheum (Mt. Sinai, Rush x 2) Heme/Onc (Loyola), Renal (Rush x 3, GW) Sleep Med (Rush, Brown) Allergy (Rush), ID (WashU)

3) UIC
Overall: I was pretty excited after their interview day. A very diverse clinical experience, as well as research opportunities- mostly clinical, but basic is also available. UIC will pay for tuition for any of its employees, so several of the residents have pursued MPH’s successfully during their years at UIC. Lots of focus on residents as teachers. GI department appears quite strong, as there is a new liver center opening. A number of their subspecialities also have their own inpatient services (Heme/Onc, GI, Liver, Cards), as well as a pretty impressive match list, especially in GI, Cards. Two week Dominican Republic international rotation available, heard it was pretty awesome.
PD: Dr. Zar was very nice, approachable, has been working for 20 odd years as a PD, with the last 5? or so at UIC. He was very friendly- took the time to make the way around during lunch on the interview day, even though it was a relatively bigger interview day. Also very good at leading morning report, but he doesn’t always do it. Has a stash of electronic files of all landmark papers in medicine, compiled and organized neatly for residents.
The Chair: Dr. Layden- also spoke to us a bit about the Dept. of Medicine at UIC. Very well-known name in hepatology, so that’s definitely a plus for people wanting to do GI. One of his kids went through the UIC IM residency (the other Northwestern).
Residents: Met a number of them at happy hour at Illinois Bar and Grill the night before- with many interns and residents all present- very happy, friendly bunch. Extremely laid back and they get along pretty well. The chiefs were fantastic- definitely getting along with all the residents at lunch, as well as happy hour. Most seem to be again from Chicago or the South, occasional East Coast.
Faculty: Interviewed with two of the faculty, one who has been at medical school. Definitely very resident/student friendly, with clinical research opportunities.
Patients: UIC also has a VA where they work at, but it seems the patients are quite diverse. Also a pretty wide range of pathology.
Conferences: Morning report led by Dr. Zar was pretty good, case was relatively interesting. Residents seemed knowledgeable. Did not get a chance to attend other conferences, although they noted there was a structure curriculum that includes board review course in the last 2 months for noon conference.
Sites/Facilities: Only saw UIC, not the VA, but residents say they love the VA. Full electronic charting with home access, films. Some residents stated ancillary staff is not the best, but has gotten better over the years.
Location: 10 minutes away from downtown, also right next to El stop, across the street from Rush. Lots of folks live downtown, or nearby neighborhoods (Lincoln Park, etc). Apparently, residents can get Bulls tickets, and occasional Bears tickets.
Schedule: Gen Med call is q6. Subspecialty services q 4-6 until 5 pm and on weekends. In house moonlighter (senior UIC resident) covers weekly overnight call. Only thing that a resident noted that was possibly be a con is having to cover other subspecialty services without having rotated on it yet, but notes that there is always “backup.” ICU blocks is average q4 call. No chance to do research block in intern year.
Intern year- 5-6 ward, 2-3 ICU, 1 ambulatory, 2 week geriatrics, 1-2 consult blocks, vacay
PGY1- 9 blocks call
PGY2 5-6 blocks
PGY3 4-5 blocks
Research: opportunities in mostly clinical, but basic is available.
Fellowship 2007: Cards (UMich, UIC, MCV, Wayne State, Kentucky, UIC), GI (UIC x 2, Kansas, Wayne State, Mayo, UT Houston, Wash U), Rheum (UIC, UofC), Endo (UIC), Heme/Onc(UTSW), ID (UIC), Nephrology (BU, BWH), Geriatrics (UIC x3)

4) Loyola University
Overall: Noted to also be a very strong clinical program, especially for cardiology. Interview day was nice, although resident did tell me that the GI department has recently been depleted with transition of a number of its faculty. However, according to residents and many students who rotated through there, they do note that Loyola is extremely good, especially for general IM, heme/onc also mentioned.
PD: Very enthusiastic, exciting. Dr. Simpson seems very electric and devoted to resident wellbeing. Thought he was very fantastic.
The Chair: Met the Chair- friendly, nice. He and Dr. Simpson seem to get along well, so that’s always a plus. He talked to us for a brief time.
Residents: Friendly people, mostly from the Midwest. Q&A with chiefs was definitely pretty interesting, and overall, most of the residents seem relatively laid back.
Faculty: Spoke with some IM faculty- all very much approachable, nice, doing mostly clinical research. Not that much basic science work, but most of that is increasing. Very strong emphasis on teaching residents though, so that was definitely a plus.
Patients: Definitely a variety- with transplants, as well as bread and butter type medicine. Also definitely with its zebras, as seen in their CPCs.
Conferences: Went to an interesting conference at the end of the day- CPC conference (clinical pathophys) where a senior resident presented his/her best case- including path correlations. Definitely interesting.
Sites/Facilities: Loyola, Hines VA- out in Maywood, which is about 12 miles west of Downtown Chicago. I think they’re opening a new wing of the VA. The fitness center is actually pretty neat.
Location: Not particularly the best surrounding location, supposedly, according to some residents. Many live downtown, or further north/south in the burbs.
Schedule: q5-q6 call for 8-9 months intern year, with it decreasing SIGNIFICANTLY senior years. elective time to do research available.
Research: mostly clinical research, with research symposium for residents each year.
Fellowship 2007: Cards (Cook County, Loyola x 2, Lutheran General, Loma Linda), Pulm/CC (Northwestern, Loyola, Wisconsin), ID (UT Southwestern), Nephrology (Loyola x 2), GI(Loyola x3), Endocrine (Loyola). Does seem to be a bit more inbred.

5) Northwestern
Overall: Another very academic environment with research opportunities for self-motivated residents. A very enthusiastic and spunky PD (all her residents ADORE her) who will go to bat for you. Residents are happy, and faculty love to teach. Morning reports are very strong, with residents being very knowledgeable. International rotation available in Bolivia, also noted to be a great experience. Can’t beat the hospital facilities (nicest in Chicagoland, I think), with very supportive ancillary staff, as Northwestern residents and students have yet prick an arm for any blood draws that I know of, haha. Also hospitalist and women’s health track available, do not require a separate application.
PD: Very enthusiastic, will go to bat for residents. She definitely is very responsive for any changes that need to be made. Introduced simulation training for codes, also starting a medical Spanish class. Also made it available for residents to obtain certificate in basic science research certification (with classes in stats, epidemiology, etc) to help enhance research opportunities. Very much a Yankees fan also.
The Chair: Northwestern currently has their incoming Chair of Medicine possibilities narrowed down to 2, as Dr. Jameson has now become dean of the med school. Interim chair also met with us on interview day. It seems that both Dr. Jameson and Dr. Lowe have been very supportive of residency program in the past.
Residents: Very friendly people, most from Midwest and East Coast. Very knowledgeable, especially at morning report. All very approachable- the ones at lunch were very open, enthusiastic. Met some others (interns included!) at the happy hour thing at Timmy’s the night before, and they were definitely having lots of fun.
Faculty: Spoke with some GI faculty- approachable, with a lot of focus on eosinophilic esophagitis and manometry. Also with a simulation center where they are working on NOTES. Chair of GI is IBD, and runs his own basic science lab, some research into stem cells. However, variety of GI research does not seem to be as wide as UofC, although residents seem to have no problem getting into GI fellowships. Also got to meet some of the faculty on rounds- very much into teaching, and residents definitely get a lot of autonomy.
Patients: Northwestern definitely liked to stress that they are not just a “cush” hospital- with definitely an underserved population, as well as the run-of-the-mill. They also work at the VA. Definitely a tertiary hospital set of patients.
Conferences: Morning report was pretty fantastic, and firm conference at NW is impressive in the type of discussion that goes on. Grand rounds speakers are also experts from all over, and definitely well attended.
Sites/Facilities: Northwestern and VA-Westside (not downtown). Full electronic medical records (EPIC outpt and Powerchart inpatient, PACS for radiology). Pretty easy to use. While at the VA, NW residents work with NW teams.
Location: Downtown Chicago, block(s) away from Michigan Ave. Residents point out that having parking at the hospital is great especially if you want to come to downtown for something else. Affordable housing is available, NW gives lots of discounts to gyms, etc nearby also. Cubs tickets also available to residents.
Schedule: Residents are on call every 5th night on the Gen Med service at NW (a variation of short call/long call). At VA-Westside, teams are on an 8 day call schedule which includes overnight call and short call responsibilities. On ICU rotations call is every 4th night for interns and every 4th night for residents. There is a night float team at NW every night from 7:30pm to 7:30am. Night float is two interns who cross-cover patients already in the hospital and one resident who admits new patients. Each resident spends 2 weeks on night float each year.
Research: Opportunities in both basic and clinical. Annual Research Symposium. Was provided a list of publications by residents and presentations by residents- very impressive over the last few years.
Fellowship: No breakdown for the most recent, but from 2001-2006- also no note of how many went where
Allergy-Imm: Baylor, NIH, NW, UNC
Cardiology: Case-Western, Cedars-Sinai, Duke, Emory, GW, Henry Ford, JHU, Lahey Clinic, Loyola, Mayo, NW, UofC, UofI, UofWisconsin, UCLA, Wash U
Endocrine: Emory, JHU, Joslin DM Center, NW, Stanford, UCLA, UofC, Vanderbilt
GI: BU, BWH, Cleveland, emory, Henry Ford, Loyola, Mayo, Medical College of Wisconsin, NW, OHSU, Rush, Wash U, UofC, UCSD, UIC, UMaryland, UMass, UMich, UPenn, UW, Wisconsin
Heme/Onc: Dana Faber, Duke, Memorial Sloan, NIH, NYU, NW, Rush, Cincinnati
Nephrology: BU, BWH, Indiana, NW, Rush, Colorado, Cincinnati, UofC, UMich, Pitt, Vanderbilt, Wash U
Pulm/CC: Cornell, Harvard, JHU, MGH, NIH, NW, OSU, UCSF, Colorado, UMich, Wash U, Yale
Rheum: MGH, NW, UCSD, UCSF, UofC, UPenn
Sports Med: UCLA
Women’s Health: Harvard
 
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It may help people evaluating internal med residencies to check out the American Board of Internal Med web site where they have posted the passing rates for the IM board exam. This is the exam you basically have to take to get "Board Certified" after 3 years of residency. Overall pass rate is 92% or so, so really a program should have a pass rate in the 90's.

http://www.abim.org/pdf/pass-rates/residency-program-pass-rates.pdf
 
I am a PGY3 at Case Western in Cleveland and I sometimes think our program gets overlooked. The Department of Medicine ranks in the top 10 in terms of NIH funding and there is an outstanding faculty and two excellent teaching hospitals. The program leaders are supportive and the residents are generally happy. The program has cut the workload for interns (cap of 10). The residents do fantastic in getting fellowships. Cleveland is underrated and inexpensive.
 
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Sorry this is kinda long, guys.
Review of a number of Chicago IM (traditional) programs

Wrote this up to help myself, but thought some folks might find it useful. A few things to note to help you take all this in context- I’m NOT from Chicago, and I plan on pursuing a GI fellowship. These are also not put in any particular rank- just in the order I interviewed. I tried my best to be objective, but again, these are just my impressions, so please clarify if I’ve made any factual mistakes. Also, feel free to disagree, comment- I always appreciate other people’s insights!

1) University of Chicago
Overall: A very academic e


hi guys...


does anyone know anything about Southern Illinois University, Internal Medicine program,

I got an interview there and i need some info about the interview there and whats the rating on that program


thank you
 
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