Interventional Cardiology vs. Interventional Radiology

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So which one do you guys think is a better career (I am aware that I am asking this question in a cardiology forum and there will be some bias)? Which one is cooler or which one would you rather do if you could pick any? I have some thoughts on this subject as I have read some of the previous forums talking about this topic a little bit. I guess the major way to pick between the two would be to decide which mundane part of each specialty would one rather do. So that would be seeing clinic patients for IC and reading images for IR. I always feel like the IC guys get poked fun at for poor procedure quality. For example, if there is a stent problem, a radiologist will say it must have been an IC guy that must have done it. Also I have been reading that more complicated procedures go to IR because IC can not handle them. I have also seen the argument being made that IC essentially "stole" inventions that IR originally created.

If there was a way to tag or involve the IR sub-forum I would, but I am not sure how to do that. Also, my goal on this forum is not to belittle IC or IR, but rather have a discussion and then come to a decision of which one to pursue.

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One of the things that is so attractive about IR are the possibilities for the types of procedures performed. Interventional Radiology paved the way for almost every major imaging guided minimally invasive treatment modality in medicine. Pad, IR invented the balloon angioplasty (your welcome vascular surgery and most recently cardiologist), Stents, IR invented the stent which without cardiologist would still be left holding and empty bottle of nitro, Neuro IR, all pioneered by interventionist. I am not here to advocate that these specialists performing these procedures is wrong, I don’t think it’s wrong, so let’s make that clear right away. But what I will say is that we have a right to these procedures and we as interventional radiologists should be able to compete for these procedures without hospital administration coming down and saying for example “for now on all PAD goes to vascular surgery”, and this is happening. I don’t think that just because one specialty invented a procedure that specialty should be the only one to be able to perform it otherwise general surgeons would still be performing mohs surgery and I think we can all agree that is not a good thing. But where I take strong offense is when hospital administration says “sorry IR, stroke thrombectomy’s are only going to be done by neurosurgery and neurology from now on” that’s a monopoly on something you didn’t even invent and that is wrong. Medicine is becoming more and more secularized especially at major academic institutions in which everything is funneled for example: AAA’s all go to vascular surgery at “Blank” top 20 hospital. This concept of secularization works for almost every other specialty cardiology, neurosurgery, orthopedics, cardiothoracic surgery because they don’t have to cross as many specialty lines in order to get complete training in their field. That is simple not the case in IR if you are truly to cover the full spectrum of IR training. What does this mean for IR trainees? Well it means for a given year of training at what the public may consider one if the best academic medical institutions in the country you may perform as many PAD cases that a fellow at Miami Vascular performs in two days of their year of training (I do not work for or have any ties or disclosures of any kind with my use of Miami Vascular and I am simply using them in this example). Where the major academic institutions still dominate is in the procedures only performed by IR example; TIPS, Y90, TACE and any highly complex non traditional intravascular procedure in which Vascular Surgery, and Cardiology will be to scare to touch (no offense). How do we overcome this problem of secularization? We could just choose to give in and say “let them have it” but if we did that (and we would still be plenty busy) how long would we still be the foremost authority on complex endovascular procedures? My opinion is that we meaning IR need to take seats in the hospital committees and strive for the best relationships possible with the subspecialty’s performing these procedures so that trainees can do meaningful rotations with attending’s from vascular surgery, neurosurgery so they are capable of performing these procedures when they are done with training. That’s all for me today thank you for reading. I would love to hear other thoughts on this.


“Things have been both rewarding and at times frustrating. In the early days of transluminal angioplasty I had to accept a lot of unpleasant backbiting such as ‘He's a nut, you can't trust his uncontrolled, poorly documented case experience,’ and worse. I'm glad I was thick-skinned enough to stick with it and even more glad that there's so much still to be done and so many others to help do it”


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At the risk of inflaming anyone and ignoring the many many other differences and ignoring some of the comments above I completely full heartedly disagree with... I would say this one thing.

One of these things involves being a clinician and one of these things is a hammer to a nail.
I am biased but to me (opinion) there is zero comparison here.

That's all I'll say about this
 
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So which one do you guys think is a better career (I am aware that I am asking this question in a cardiology forum and there will be some bias)? Which one is cooler or which one would you rather do if you could pick any? I have some thoughts on this subject as I have read some of the previous forums talking about this topic a little bit. I guess the major way to pick between the two would be to decide which mundane part of each specialty would one rather do. So that would be seeing clinic patients for IC and reading images for IR. I always feel like the IC guys get poked fun at for poor procedure quality. For example, if there is a stent problem, a radiologist will say it must have been an IC guy that must have done it. Also I have been reading that more complicated procedures go to IR because IC can not handle them. I have also seen the argument being made that IC essentially "stole" inventions that IR originally created.

If there was a way to tag or involve the IR sub-forum I would, but I am not sure how to do that. Also, my goal on this forum is not to belittle IC or IR, but rather have a discussion and then come to a decision of which one to pursue.

There is little overlap between the two in terms of scope and patient care. As others have stated, with one you are a clinician, while the other you are predominately a proceduralist only. And as far as the rest, lol. You should be smart enough to know that whatever you copy/pasted was written by an IR cheerleader. Rah rah IR!
 
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