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Curious what anti-hypertensive agent others have had the best results with when the 1st line options (CCB, ACE/ARB, thiazide diuretic) have been either maxed out or aren't tolerated. By best results I mean combined efficacy and also tolerability. I understand patient specific factors play into this, but for the sake of this discussion I am trying to keep it general, presuming that the patient has essential hypertension, there is low suspicion for a specific secondary cause with work-up done if indicated, they do not have another disease that would make a specific drug preferable (ie. beta blocker in a person with migraines), and there are no known contraindications to any specific drug. Purely from the standpoint of efficacy and tolerability everything else being equal. Have seen everything from mineralocorticoid receptor antagonists, beta blockers, central alpha blockers, and Hydralazine used as the next agent.

Also curious how their current drug regimen would affect your choice as well. For example, if their regimen is Amlodipine and Chlorthalidone (didn't tolerate ACE/ARB), would you be more inclined to choose a mineralocorticoid receptor antagonist since there is no RAAS inhibitor in the regimen and avoid Hydralazine since they are already taking a vasodilator?

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Will often use nifedipine in place of amlodipine and get more response
 
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Interesting. Any big differences you've noticed in response between the different ARB's?
Yes. Losartan is unimpressive. I'll switch that to olmesartan quite frequently and get a fair bit of additional BP lowering effect.

Beta blockers are 4th line. I generally have gotten the most effect from labetalol, usually go with Bystolic if I only need a little more BP lowering or if patient isn't going to be compliant with the twice a day nature of labetalol.
 
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I am not managing hypertension, but I agree with the above comments. From my previous experience and literature review, "vasodilatory" beta-blockers such as Bystolic (beta-blocker is not first line because previous RCTs using old "non-vasodilatory" beta-blockers showed inferior outcome in stroke compared to other agents......), and mineralocorticoid receptor antagonists are both very decent agents as “4th-line”. by saying central alpha blockers, do you mean clonidine, which is actually a "alpha-agonist" (corrected from previous post)......because of the rebound hypertension effect, I would defer it as possible.
 
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Curious what anti-hypertensive agent others have had the best results with when the 1st line options (CCB, ACE/ARB, thiazide diuretic) have been either maxed out or aren't tolerated. By best results I mean combined efficacy and also tolerability. I understand patient specific factors play into this, but for the sake of this discussion I am trying to keep it general, presuming that the patient has essential hypertension, there is low suspicion for a specific secondary cause with work-up done if indicated, they do not have another disease that would make a specific drug preferable (ie. beta blocker in a person with migraines), and there are no known contraindications to any specific drug. Purely from the standpoint of efficacy and tolerability everything else being equal. Have seen everything from mineralocorticoid receptor antagonists, beta blockers, central alpha blockers, and Hydralazine used as the next agent.

Also curious how their current drug regimen would affect your choice as well. For example, if their regimen is Amlodipine and Chlorthalidone (didn't tolerate ACE/ARB), would you be more inclined to choose a mineralocorticoid receptor antagonist since there is no RAAS inhibitor in the regimen and avoid Hydralazine since they are already taking a vasodilator?

You shouldn't be maxing out the dose on anything first line. I usually start one, titrate up to maybe half-max dose, then add on a second agent. Most of the research shows having 2 meds (at smaller doses) from different classes is better than having 1 med at a max dose. [Now having said that, if someone is on 1 med at max dose, and it's working for them, I leave them alone.]

As far as intolerances go, make sure it's a real intolerance (for instance, mild presyncope, fatigue is not necessarily an intolerance . . . the medication just might be working too well, titrate down). If we're talking raging hypoNa from a thiazide, bad dry cough from a Ace/Arb (something legit) then just avoid that med (or maybe that class) and pick something else.

It's rare that someone is truly intolerant of all classes. If they claim to be, consult Psych . . .
 
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I am not managing hypertension, but I agree with the above comments. From my previous experience and literature review, "vasodilatory" beta-blockers such as Bystolic (beta-blocker is not first line because previous RCTs using old "non-vasodilatory" beta-blockers showed inferior outcome in stroke compared to other agents......), and mineralocorticoid receptor antagonists are both very decent agents as “4th-line”. by saying central alpha blockers, do you mean clonidine, which is actually a "alpha-antagonist"......because of the rebound hypertension effect, I would defer it as possible.
Yeah I meant to include Clonidine, but also Doxazosin and other alpha-blockers, which I have seen used 4th-line as well by general internists and cardiologists.
 
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You shouldn't be maxing out the dose on anything first line. I usually start one, titrate up to maybe half-max dose, then add on a second agent. Most of the research shows having 2 meds (at smaller doses) from different classes is better than having 1 med at a max dose. [Now having said that, if someone is on 1 med at max dose, and it's working for them, I leave them alone.]

As far as intolerances go, make sure it's a real intolerance (for instance, mild presyncope, fatigue is not necessarily an intolerance . . . the medication just might be working too well, titrate down). If we're talking raging hypoNa from a thiazide, bad dry cough from a Ace/Arb (something legit) then just avoid that med (or maybe that class) and pick something else.

It's rare that someone is truly intolerant of all classes. If they claim to be, consult Psych . . .
Yeah, I agree with you about using sub-maximal doses of multiple agents before maxing out a single agent. I was referring more to the end product, after you have titrated agents in alternating fashion to maximum.

It is uncommon for patients to be truly intolerant to multiple first line anti-hypertensives, but I would say it is relatively common for patients to be maxed out on two out of the three, intolerant of the third, and have sub-optimal BP control.
 
My personal opinion is against adding multiple different meds until you maxed one out if they are close to their goal bp. I understand there’s a better bp effect mixing them but you run the risk of adding additional side effects from different classes. Going up increases the risk of side effects from the class they are already but if for example they dont have a cough or hyperkalemia from an ace/arb half way through then they are probably alright. If they are almost controlled on one med but you just need that little extra push, I increase what they are already on. If they are far away from goal i.e >30 systolic points then I typically add a second class (after making sure they are compliant and actually taking their meds).
 
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In order:
after ACE/ARB, CCB, and thiazide
(Consider neph referral)
Spironolactone (not eplerenone)
Carvedilol
(Consider neph referral a lot more)
 
Consider referring to nephrology, hypertension specialist (if available), or cardiology (if has CHF or CAD ... though those patients already see cardiology) if two medications +diuretic are not working (resistant HTN). While this seems a bit "early," the idea is you want to have the nephrologist mess up the Cr by accident (lol).

In all seriousness at that point a patient should get a 24 hour ABPM versus home remote BP monitoring to confirm the diagnosis as well as to monitor for trends consistent with nonadherence. Secondary HTN workup should also be evaluated then.
In my practice, the most common etiology of secondary hypertension is OSA.

I understand in some areas of the country, going for specialists, 24 hour ABPM, sleep studies are not exactly easy and patients have a lot of socioeconomic factors that might make these additional testing harder than it should be, but that's just the by the book approach.
 
My personal opinion is against adding multiple different meds until you maxed one out if they are close to their goal bp. I understand there’s a better bp effect mixing them but you run the risk of adding additional side effects from different classes. Going up increases the risk of side effects from the class they are already but if for example they dont have a cough or hyperkalemia from an ace/arb half way through then they are probably alright. If they are almost controlled on one med but you just need that little extra push, I increase what they are already on. If they are far away from goal i.e >30 systolic points then I typically add a second class (after making sure they are compliant and actually taking their meds).
Start with ARB instead of ACE, for lower cough incidence.
Agree with chlorthalidone over HCTZ and olmesartan over losartan.

Check for other things, eg if the pt has chronic anxiety, an SSRI could make more difference than an antihypertensive.
 
Start with ARB instead of ACE, for lower cough incidence.
Agree with chlorthalidone over HCTZ and olmesartan over losartan.

Check for other things, eg if the pt has chronic anxiety, an SSRI could make more difference than an antihypertensive.
Don't forget the potassium pills if you're doing that.
 
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Yes. Losartan is unimpressive. I'll switch that to olmesartan quite frequently and get a fair bit of additional BP lowering effect.

Beta blockers are 4th line. I generally have gotten the most effect from labetalol, usually go with Bystolic if I only need a little more BP lowering or if patient isn't going to be compliant with the twice a day nature of labetalol.
As a Gastroenterologist, please don't prescribe olmesartan if some other ACE/ARB will do. It causes olmesartan enteropathy, and while uncommon, it's probably under diagnosed and can cause substantial morbidity.

I did recently have a patient with ACE-I induced small bowel angioedema that took a while to diagnose too, but I think that's quite rare.
 
As a Gastroenterologist, please don't prescribe olmesartan if some other ACE/ARB will do. It causes olmesartan enteropathy, and while uncommon, it's probably under diagnosed and can cause substantial morbidity.

I did recently have a patient with ACE-I induced small bowel angioedema that took a while to diagnose too, but I think that's quite rare.
Honestly, I originally started using it because it's the only ARB that hasn't had a recall or shortage in the last 6 years (and works well). Also insurance doesn't hate it.
 
As a Gastroenterologist, please don't prescribe olmesartan if some other ACE/ARB will do. It causes olmesartan enteropathy, and while uncommon, it's probably under diagnosed and can cause substantial morbidity.

I did recently have a patient with ACE-I induced small bowel angioedema that took a while to diagnose too, but I think that's quite rare.
Yeah it’s too common to even case report. I’ve seen two cases as in internist yet it is supposedly rare. I will say I’ll switch to valsartan personally just because I’m also interested in GI and after seeing that sprue cause severe electrolyte deficiencies and two hospitalizations, I’d rather avoid it and like you said with it being underused, it’s hard to predict what would happen if everyone gets on the olmesartan train. Angiotensin drugs are the strongest agents in my experience.
 
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My approach to BP after hearing dogma at multiple institutions:

AAA-Angiotensin, Alpha (clonidine, doxazosin, minoxidil), Afterload (Imdur/Hydral)
Beta Blocker (Coreg, Labetalol)
Calcium Channel (Amlodipine, Nifedipine)
Diuretics (Hctz, chlorthalidone, indapamide step up, then spironolactone class, then lasix for dialysis patients for volume overload)

That helps list all the medications AND it serves as what to start first line.

Now the approach:

1.) SSS: Smoking, Salt, Sleep apnea. Salt intake may seem trivial but a deliberate diet can actually make a sizable difference.

2.) I look at HF/DM vs not. HF/DM get ACE as a first line. Those without it get CCB, the most convenient one. I also check a Pr/Cr to see if a Angiotensin drug can be justified.
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3.) For systolic >20 points above my target (120–130) or diastolic above 10 (80-90) I prescribe two medications. I also heavily prescribe to the multiple medication strategy as opposed to spamming dose increases on a single medication strategy on follow ups. If we are making changes, let’s actually make meaningful ones instead of trying to make it look like we are doing something for namesake. It may create some turbulence initially but at least you can settle on a regimen faster this way. I understand it sounds scientific to say that we can change one variable/med at a time but the irony is that the majority of the scientific evidence has shown that increase past half the dose gives more side effects and less control. Fill everyone’s glass before you fill each to the brim! To account for patient’s hesitation to take multiple pills, diovan and other mixed pills are my friend.

Double check and verify compliance and test patients on what they are taking between visits.

4.) Listen to patients when they mention side effects but don’t let it limit your first line therapies. Thiazides don’t cause constant urination if the patients are taking it daily. ARBs should not cause chronic cough. Challenge intolerances when able. Common legit intolerances are electrolyte issues in old people on thiazides, really bad lifestyle altering leg swelling on amlodipine, weird atopic things like enteropathy/cough with angiotensin drugs, and so on.

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Double check and verify compliance and test patients on what they are taking between visits.
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5.) Once I get them on two medications and they are still uncontrolled it depends how much. If it’s a lot I’ll go to step 6. If it’s a little I’ll just increase the dose as dose increases provide only little improvement.
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Double check and verify compliance and test patients on what they are taking between visits.
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6.) If that doesn’t work, I’ll add spironolactone especially if there’s a diuretic on board and test for stuff if needed. If needed I’ll manage the potassium medically as opposed to avoiding spironolactone. All these meds cancel each other out diuretic vs. Spiro.
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Double check and verify compliance and test patients on what they are taking between visits.
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7.) If the patient is on the ALL-HAT meds (Angiotensin, CCB, Thiazides) and MRAs and they are uncontrolled that’s when I play the class switching game. Whether it’s HCTZ>Chlorthalidone>Indapamide, Amlodipine to Nifedipine XL 60 BID, or Losartan> Losartan BID >Valsartan>Olmesartan or Coreg BID to Labetalol TID,
I start doing stuff like that.
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Double check and verify compliance and test patients on what they are taking between visits.
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8.) After that, I have to think outside the box and do what will do the least harm. Pick a poison from each bag. Don’t double pick from the same bag.

Poison Bag A: Beta-Blockers, Clonidine.
Poison Bag B: Hydral/Nitrate, Doxazosin

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Double check and verify compliance and test patients on what they are taking between visits.
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8.) If all this doesn’t work, then I will usually ask for Cardiology if there is some other cardiac issue or Nephrology if there isn’t. Lasix can help if volume overload is an issue.

They may do a few other adjustments but that’s really it.
 
My approach to BP after hearing dogma at multiple institutions:

AAA-Angiotensin, Alpha (clonidine, doxazosin, minoxidil), Afterload (Imdur/Hydral)
Beta Blocker (Coreg, Labetalol)
Calcium Channel (Amlodipine, Nifedipine)
Diuretics (Hctz, chlorthalidone, indapamide step up, then spironolactone class, then lasix for dialysis patients for volume overload)

That helps list all the medications AND it serves as what to start first line.

Now the approach:

1.) SSS: Smoking, Salt, Sleep apnea. Salt intake may seem trivial but a deliberate diet can actually make a sizable difference.

2.) I look at HF/DM vs not. HF/DM get ACE as a first line. Those without it get CCB, the most convenient one. I also check a Pr/Cr to see if a Angiotensin drug can be justified.
——-
3.) For systolic >20 points above my target (120–130) or diastolic above 10 (80-90) I prescribe two medications. I also heavily prescribe to the multiple medication strategy as opposed to spamming dose increases on a single medication strategy on follow ups. If we are making changes, let’s actually make meaningful ones instead of trying to make it look like we are doing something for namesake. It may create some turbulence initially but at least you can settle on a regimen faster this way. I understand it sounds scientific to say that we can change one variable/med at a time but the irony is that the majority of the scientific evidence has shown that increase past half the dose gives more side effects and less control. Fill everyone’s glass before you fill each to the brim! To account for patient’s hesitation to take multiple pills, diovan and other mixed pills are my friend.

Double check and verify compliance and test patients on what they are taking between visits.

4.) Listen to patients when they mention side effects but don’t let it limit your first line therapies. Thiazides don’t cause constant urination if the patients are taking it daily. ARBs should not cause chronic cough. Challenge intolerances when able. Common legit intolerances are electrolyte issues in old people on thiazides, really bad lifestyle altering leg swelling on amlodipine, weird atopic things like enteropathy/cough with angiotensin drugs, and so on.

—-
Double check and verify compliance and test patients on what they are taking between visits.
—-
5.) Once I get them on two medications and they are still uncontrolled it depends how much. If it’s a lot I’ll go to step 6. If it’s a little I’ll just increase the dose as dose increases provide only little improvement.
——
Double check and verify compliance and test patients on what they are taking between visits.
——
6.) If that doesn’t work, I’ll add spironolactone especially if there’s a diuretic on board and test for stuff if needed. If needed I’ll manage the potassium medically as opposed to avoiding spironolactone. All these meds cancel each other out diuretic vs. Spiro.
——
Double check and verify compliance and test patients on what they are taking between visits.
——
7.) If the patient is on the ALL-HAT meds (Angiotensin, CCB, Thiazides) and MRAs and they are uncontrolled that’s when I play the class switching game. Whether it’s HCTZ>Chlorthalidone>Indapamide, Amlodipine to Nifedipine XL 60 BID, or Losartan> Losartan BID >Valsartan>Olmesartan or Coreg BID to Labetalol TID,
I start doing stuff like that.
——
Double check and verify compliance and test patients on what they are taking between visits.
——
8.) After that, I have to think outside the box and do what will do the least harm. Pick a poison from each bag. Don’t double pick from the same bag.

Poison Bag A: Beta-Blockers, Clonidine.
Poison Bag B: Hydral/Nitrate, Doxazosin

——
Double check and verify compliance and test patients on what they are taking between visits.
——
8.) If all this doesn’t work, then I will usually ask for Cardiology if there is some other cardiac issue or Nephrology if there isn’t. Lasix can help if volume overload is an issue.

They may do a few other adjustments but that’s really it.
So from that list at the very top you go in order and down the list when adding bp meds?
 
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