Hi, I'm new, do I have a chance?

[ExAmateurEconomist]

I went off to a bad start in school, when it will have been 4.5 years since I graduated high school (the end of this semester) I will have finished my associate's in general studies from a community college with a partnership with GSU, and right now, before my grades this semester, which I expect to be all 4s I have a 2.11 gpa with 61 counted credits including withdrawal while failing courses. I have some mental conditions like borderline traits and impulsivity and mismanagement of asd adhd ocd and anxiety that contributed, in addition to circumstances and my own lack of effort. if I get all 4s on all courses I predict I'll have somewhere in between 3.04-3.1, maybe 3.2 gpa. i actually failed upper level math and am banned from taking it due to retakes at my college, but my mind is working better now that I am not addicted to porn and am not constantly obsessing over girls. I'm actually more bright than I seem, people have told me my whole life I was incredibly intelligent (my IQ is even 135), but if I get all 4s could that help me make my case for med school? I know I might have to get a higher MCAT score, and that's kinda what got me into college, low GPA, high SAT and ACT.
P.S. I plan on transferring to another school and doing biology (at kennesaw state).
I also plan on doing volunteer jobs at hospitals.

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[Goro]

Rising gpa Trends are always good.

But you will need to get you all of your mental health issues under control, as the pressures of medical school are likely to cause a relapse.

 

[jhmmd]

I went off to a bad start in school, when it will have been 4.5 years since I graduated high school (the end of this semester) I will have finished my associate's in general studies from a community college with a partnership with GSU, and right now, before my grades this semester, which I expect to be all 4s I have a 2.11 gpa with 61 counted credits including withdrawal while failing courses. I have some mental conditions like borderline traits and impulsivity and mismanagement of asd adhd ocd and anxiety that contributed, in addition to circumstances and my own lack of effort. if I get all 4s on all courses I predict I'll have somewhere in between 3.04-3.1, maybe 3.2 gpa. i actually failed upper level math and am banned from taking it due to retakes at my college, but my mind is working better now that I am not addicted to porn and am not constantly obsessing over girls. I'm actually more bright than I seem, people have told me my whole life I was incredibly intelligent (my IQ is even 135), but if I get all 4s could that help me make my case for med school? I know I might have to get a higher MCAT score, and that's kinda what got me into college, low GPA, high SAT and ACT.
P.S. I plan on transferring to another school and doing biology (at kennesaw state).
I also plan on doing volunteer jobs at hospitals.

Why do you want to be a doctor?

 

[ExAmateurEconomist]

Why do you want to be a doctor?

I'm interested in medicine, I want to help people, and I want to make a lot of money and have prestige in my job.

 

[nicobean]

I'm interested in medicine, I want to help people, and I want to make a lot of money and have prestige in my job.

So why not be a PA or NP? Just know in the future if you do apply for MD or DO, you're gonna have to dig deeper into that answer and have ruled out all other healthcare jobs. All doctors are interested in medicine, want to help people, and wanted the salary/prestige that comes with the job.

 

[ExAmateurEconomist]

So why not be a PA or NP? Just know in the future if you do apply for MD or DO, you're gonna have to dig deep and have ruled out all other healthcare jobs.

I suppose physician assistant might work. Is that easier? Does that require less social skills? Although, explaining to my grandparents and relatives in my mother tongue that my younger brother, who is trying to be a doctor, will be a doctor, and I am a "doktor yardimcisi" might give me an inferiority complex. but that's not the main reason I chose to be a doctor. and plus if I choose to go back home to Turkey or any other country to live abroad, in those countries PAs dont exist. EDIT: But I suppose it could work if I had to. EDIT: Plus I want to be at the top so I could have more prestige, though I'm just wondering if it's realistic.

 

[nicobean]

I suppose physician assistant might work. Is that easier? Does that require less social skills? Although, explaining to my grandparents and relatives in my mother tongue that my younger brother, who is trying to be a doctor, will be a doctor, and I am a "doktor yardimcisi" might give me an inferiority complex. but that's not the main reason I chose to be a doctor. and plus if I choose to go back home to Turkey or any other country to live abroad, in those countries PAs dont exist. EDIT: But I suppose it could work if I had to.

I wouldn't call it necessarily easier, it is shorter in terms of schooling and ultimately cheaper in terms of tuition.

 

[Goro]

I'm interested in medicine, I want to help people, and I want to make a lot of money and have prestige in my job.

While wanting to make bank is the baseline for all pre-meds, if the bolded are your primary reasons to be a doctor, you are headed for a world of hurt.

I'm getting a lot of worrisome vibes off of you, EAE.

 

[nicobean]

Last thing to add, "prestige" is in the eye of the beholder. While being a doctor is prestigious in America now, it is not that way universally and who knows how it will be looked at in 50 years from now. Some people may be amazed that you are a doctor, others may look at you and say "...and so what?". A physician is a necessary job, just like garbage collectors are necessary and water filtration plant workers, yet they don't get the praise from society in modern America, so who is to say how long prestige lasts. So basing your job desire on "prestige" is kinda like building a house on sand, may last 50 years, may last 5 days.

 

[jhmmd]

Last thing to add, "prestige" is in the eye of the beholder. While being a doctor is prestigious in America now, it is not that way universally and who knows how it will be looked at in 50 years from now. Some people may be amazed that you are a doctor, others may look at you and say "...and so what?". A physician is a necessary job, just like garbage collectors are necessary and water filtration plant workers, yet they don't get the praise from society in modern America, so who is to say how long prestige lasts. So basing your job desire on "prestige" is kinda like building a house on sand, may last 50 years, may last 5 days.

Doctors have been at the top of the social totem pole for hundreds of years and will continue to do so

 

[nicobean]

Doctors have been at the top of the social totem pole for hundreds of years and will continue to do so

Not necessarily in China, it varies from country to country

 

[jhmmd]

Not necessarily in China, it varies from country to country

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[lumya]

I went off to a bad start in school, when it will have been 4.5 years since I graduated high school (the end of this semester) I will have finished my associate's in general studies from a community college with a partnership with GSU, and right now, before my grades this semester, which I expect to be all 4s I have a 2.11 gpa with 61 counted credits including withdrawal while failing courses. I have some mental conditions like borderline traits and impulsivity and mismanagement of asd adhd ocd and anxiety that contributed, in addition to circumstances and my own lack of effort. if I get all 4s on all courses I predict I'll have somewhere in between 3.04-3.1, maybe 3.2 gpa. i actually failed upper level math and am banned from taking it due to retakes at my college, but my mind is working better now that I am not addicted to porn and am not constantly obsessing over girls. I'm actually more bright than I seem, people have told me my whole life I was incredibly intelligent (my IQ is even 135), but if I get all 4s could that help me make my case for med school? I know I might have to get a higher MCAT score, and that's kinda what got me into college, low GPA, high SAT and ACT.
P.S. I plan on transferring to another school and doing biology (at kennesaw state).
I also plan on doing volunteer jobs at hospitals.

Are you actively receiving treatment for your mental health issues? A lot of what you listed isn't something that goes away and you can't just overcome it with sheer willpower.

Since starting school my sleep schedule has been all over the place and there's been a lot of stress and I can't imagine how bad things would be if I didn't have a good handle on my mental health right now.

 

[ExAmateurEconomist]

Are you actively receiving treatment for your mental health issues? A lot of what you listed isn't something that goes away and you can't just overcome it with sheer willpower.

Since starting school my sleep schedule has been all over the place and there's been a lot of stress and I can't imagine how bad things would be if I didn't have a good handle on my mental health right now.

yes, I am seeing an LCSW and a psychiatrist.

 

[ExAmateurEconomist]

I'm also considering changing my major to pschology and doing either psychiatry, an internal medicine doctor as planned and simply enjoying psych courses (I love psychology), or becoming a clinical psychologist. I wanted to become a clinical psychologist a while back and I hear neurotic psychologists aren't all that uncommon.

 

[swimwreck]

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fyi being a doctor isn't much more prestigious than being an engineer in China. Being a doctor in china isn't great because of the number of patients and the pay and some other things

 

[frosted2]

I'm interested in medicine, I want to help people, and I want to make a lot of money and have prestige in my job.

Trust me my friend... if money and prestige are two of the reasons you are wanting to be a physician, it is going to be a long and very hard road ahead. If I were doing this for the money, I would have bailed a looooong time ago.

95% of the time med school is like a main entree of stress served with a couple sides of stress and some stress sprinkled on top like parmesan like they do at Olive Garden (mmmm breadsticks) for good measure.

 

[jhmmd]

I'm with @frosted2

 

[lumya]

yes, I am seeing an LCSW and a psychiatrist.

If your mental health is managed and you have an upward GPA trend, it's definitely feasible and a lot of schools reward for reinvention.

There's a lot of other ways to earn money and receive prestige without being a doctor. I walked away from a career I found fulfillment at, had a nifty little title in front of my name, and a good paycheck to now have acid reflux and grind my teeth. It feels bad to miss out on family and social events because I have to study for a test while everyone else gets real vacation time. But at the same time, I don't think I could have chosen anything else.

I had a college adviser tell me that if there's anything else you would want to do other than medicine to really explore it. And I did and only after that did I realize how much I wanted to be a doctor. It seems like you have a couple of different interests, so it may be a good idea to shadow and talk to people in other fields to learn more.