Hi, I know this is a longshot. But has anyone here ever done an accelerated BSN and Med school?

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So long story short, med school drop out. Did fine in the course work, couldn't pass step 1. I think I'm suppose to be a psychiatrist, its what I'm suppose to do, but since I can't do that now I'm thinking psych NP. I would do an accelerated BSN, then a psych NP program, should take about 3 years, 2 if I can find an accelerated psych NP program. I know a person though that couldn't get into med school, dropped out of PA school, and then did an accelerated BSN and did fine.

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So long story short, med school drop out. Did fine in the course work, couldn't pass step 1. I think I'm suppose to be a psychiatrist, its what I'm suppose to do, but since I can't do that now I'm thinking psych NP. I would do an accelerated BSN, then a psych NP program, should take about 3 years, 2 if I can find an accelerated psych NP program. I know a person though that couldn't get into med school, dropped out of PA school, and then did an accelerated BSN and did fine.

Sounds like a good plan, although it’s going to take longer than 3 years I think. Have you researched finding a direct entry masters at a school that had a psych NP program and then stepping right into the psych program with many of your masters courses already done? I think that might be a good option too.
 
Another thing to consider, which you might have already, is podiatry, but I think that puts you right back into a pathway that adds years on to your journey. The time aspect is something that obviously must be concerning you, leading you to focus on where you can trim time, which is completely understandable (another case where the DNP would be less than optimal). But your pathway might actually take you close to 4 years unless you do some significant arranging and compromise regarding geography, program cost, and start dates. But I think it can be done.


I don’t know much about accelerated or direct entry NP programs, but I think your overall idea of becoming a PHMNP is a good one. The role that you will be afforded by being a psyche Np can be close to what would enjoy as a physician in terms of respect, at least in places where you are engaged in independent practice, and where psyche resources are more rare (most places right now are lacking). That puts you in the position of being a problem solver for other providers, and that makes a difference. When physicians know that you have a waiting list 2 or 3 months out for someone to get in to see you for a psyche consult, they tend to treat you with due respect vs what often happens with PAs and NPs in other realms... in essence, you stand a much better chance as a PMHNP of not being taken for granted. One of my professors made a comment once in class referring to what the FNP students had to do in their track that we don’t, and said something to the effect of “being a specialist comes with perks”, and it’s true. One of the perks in my region of the country is wages for PHMNps are significantly higher than NPs that aren’t PHMNPs. Schedules are better, and employers are in the position of competing over potential hires. It’s to the point where everyone in the region pretty much knows who the newly graduating PHMNPs in the pipeline are (because they are so rare), and word gets out how many are doing their clinicals and where. I’m not in a low population area either, so that tells you a lot about the need, the supply, and the market factors. It’s not unheard of to have offers at every location you do clinical at.


The reason for the favorable market for PHMNPs is because the desire to work with folks that are mentally ill doesn’t come naturally. Even though most medical providers see patients with mental illness (frequently), they still think they don’t, and are biased against mental health patients. They tend to be incredibly frustrating, but this manifests mostly for you if you don’t know how to get into the right mindset. Make sure this is what you’d like to do for your career. But even if you realize it’s not your flavor of work, you can usually change track in school and get onboard with something else before you are fully committed.


You definitely are taking the long way to settle in to a provider role, but I can appreciate you wanting to stick it out. I would proceed as fast as I could and spend very little time as an RN if you can help it.
 
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You definitely are taking the long way to settle in to a provider role, but I can appreciate you wanting to stick it out. I would proceed as fast as I could and spend very little time as an RN if you can help it.

I'm pretty sure I can get through the NP program in 2-3 years if I do the direct entry program. Yeah I'm getting old, I would be starting either NP or AA at 31, seeing how I got here is insane. I should have never attempted med school, the 27 I got on the MCAT was probably a sign I couldn't hack it. But I got in and was at least gonna give it a try. When the first 2 years didn't seem that challenging, I thought to myself " Its this easy to make a mid six figure salary in America?" Then Step 1 showed me where the second hurdle was. ****
 
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If your grades are solid, look into CSULA's ABSN program. It's 15 months, and you have the option to continue into their PHMNP program after you get your BSN. I'm sure there are a bunch of other schools that are similar, you just have to do your research.
 
That is the path I am taking as well. I had to move across the country due to opportunity. I went from big city to a small town and already feel homesick. Right now I am trying to think of activities I can do before the program starts and there is nothing I can really think of. It is a sacrifice, hopefully it all works out in the end.
 
It’s all about people. Find folks around you that you can spend time with. Try to get involved with new hobbies. If you are in a college town, things will pick up when school revs up. Get involved on campus. My regret from my time on campus was that I didn’t take advantage of the activities offered. I could have been taking trips into the mountains, learning scuba, skiing, participating in clubs, developing new hobbies, biking vs relying on the city to entertain me. This really could be the most boring city you’ve ever been to, but it also could be a great time to branch out while you blow off steam in your program. Work hard and find a way to play hard.

It’s easy to feel lonely when you first show up somewhere new. This happens in the military, college, travel, work.... but you’ll do fine.
 
It’s all about people. Find folks around you that you can spend time with. Try to get involved with new hobbies. If you are in a college town, things will pick up when school revs up. Get involved on campus. My regret from my time on campus was that I didn’t take advantage of the activities offered. I could have been taking trips into the mountains, learning scuba, skiing, participating in clubs, developing new hobbies, biking vs relying on the city to entertain me. This really could be the most boring city you’ve ever been to, but it also could be a great time to branch out while you blow off steam in your program. Work hard and find a way to play hard.

It’s easy to feel lonely when you first show up somewhere new. This happens in the military, college, travel, work.... but you’ll do fine.

That is good to hear. It is little harder for me because the nursing campus is far away from the main campus. Separate schools and location. Right now I just work out at the local gym. I will probably go to the main campus and hang out since that seems to be more at home for me since that is where college students and activities are. For the nursing campus it is just a small building. There isn't much activities or anything. Plus I am a commuter student. It is a small sacrifice in the grand scheme of things. i hope everything works out in the end.
 
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There is an accelerated PA to DO program though. You can become a doc in 3 years. No PA to MD accelearated exists however...
 
There is an accelerated PA to DO program though. You can become a doc in 3 years. No PA to MD accelearated exists however...

Here’s a correction to what you just said...what you called “accelerated” isn’t any different from the 3 year medical school programs that are coming out. NYU has one. You don’t need to be a PA to participate in any of the other three year programs. They utilize summers to allow for completing the medical degree in less total time, but ALL the same total hours of instruction remain, and can be completed in 3 years.... just like the PA “accelerated” program. So the PA students in the one program offering it exclusively to PAs still have to do everything that any other medical student has to do, they just get to do it in three years (including summers) rather than four. The fact that they have their PA means nothing, and does nothing to shorten the requirements. And that kind of thing is offered to your typical non PA pre med that chooses to go to a place like NYU. The three year med degree is being considered by quite a few programs as a way to appeal to typical pre meds that want to shave some calendar time off their journey. The PA to DO program does only one thing for PAs that can’t be found elsewhere, which is allows them to not have to take the MCAT.

Folks on PA forums originally thought that them being allowed to take part in their “bridge” program, AKA “accelerated program” was a badge of honor that distinguished them from NPs who wouldn’t be similarly extended that courtesy of cutting time off of DO shool. But it was made clear to them pretty quickly that any NP with pre med prerequisites could apply to one of the new 3 year med schools and become an MD. That essentially accomplishes the same thing. An RN, or a candy striper could also do that. So much for the PA to DO “accelerated program” being confirmation that PAs training allows them to skip over some medical school requirements. Nope.... med schools be like “you still have to do everything that every other med school student has to do, we don’t care that you have your PA.”

Also, around half of the PAs in the “accelerated program” are required to go into primary care, and aren’t allowed to specialize.....yay! Sounds like a great deal! Wha-whaaaaa.
 
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“NP-not well trained” isn’t a Pre -med that is trolling... pretty clear he is a PA. Good luck with that.
 
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