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Hey'all SDN homies.

So, I've had some fun with the "Puckheads?" thread, and the "Baseball?' thread... why not keep it going?

Ever since I heard 'Black Hole Sun', it was over for me. Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, AiC, etc, etc, etc.......


Anyone wanna get in on some grunge-rock love ? C'mon, maaaaan.


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Yep - Nirvana and Pearl Jam are two of my go-to's for road trips. So much good on In Utero and Yield.
 
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RustedFox said:
Hey'all SDN homies.

So, I've had some fun with the "Puckheads?" thread, and the "Baseball?' thread... why not keep it going?

Ever since I heard 'Black Hole Sun', it was over for me. Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, AiC, etc, etc, etc.......


Anyone wanna get in on some grunge-rock love ? C'mon, maaaaan.


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I was listening to the first disc of Alice in Chains' Music Box on the drive home last night. I actually like their new album but I miss the way Staley could turn it up to 11. Also just saw SG last month, awesome show.
 
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The Mad Season LP was just re-released, it includes a live show.
They have been playing the live show on Palladia recently.
 
Agree completely. In Utero and Yield are underrated, but defining albums for those two bands. No hate to Dave Abbruzzese or Matt Cameron, Imma let you finish, but Jack Irons was the best PJ drummer of all time.

His beats were pretty sweet on Joe Strummers last albums too.

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If you aren't listening to TAD, you're doing it wrong.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX0WiCJEnUA[/youtube]

Best pseudo-grunge band these days: Pissed Jeans.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B2Gww3ywDA [/YOUTUBE]
 
My personal favorites which have been known to frequent my jambox at work:
Pearl Jam
Nirvana
Soundgarden
Alice in Chains
 
I thought this was going to actually be about grunge. AiC and PJ? Not really grunge. I'll give you SG up through Louder than Love.

TAD
The Melvins
Mudhoney
Nirvana (up to and including, but not after Bleach...yes I'm aware that's their first commercially available album, no, I'm not wrong)
Green River
The Wipers
Screaming Trees
Hazel

Now we're talking.
 
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gutonc said:
I thought this was going to actually be about grunge. AiC and PJ? Not really grunge. I'll give you SG up through Louder than Love.

TAD
The Melvins
Mudhoney
Nirvana (up to and including, but not after Bleach...yes I'm aware that's their first commercially available album, no, I'm not wrong)
Green River
The Wipers
Screaming Trees
Hazel

Now we're talking.
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Somehow, I never got into the Melvins or the Screaming Trees, basically I just never picked anything up and now I don't know where to start (more so with the Melvins). I can't get down with Green River too much. I have a Hazel single somewhere (I own hundreds of Sub Pop records). Anyhow, I will agree Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains are not grunge, they just sort of rode the wave as it was convenient for the media (I didn't want to be the first o point it out). I wouldn't really tag the Wipers as grunge, but they are one of my favorite bands nonetheless.

Regardless of whether one calls it grunge or not, In Utero is easily one of the best (mainstream) records. I tend to think f it as a masterpiece. It is so much better than nevermind, so abrasive and raw that I don't think a band could pull off that sort of transition these days.
 
gutonc said:
I thought this was going to actually be about grunge. AiC and PJ? Not really grunge. I'll give you SG up through Louder than Love.

TAD
The Melvins
Mudhoney
Nirvana (up to and including, but not after Bleach...yes I'm aware that's their first commercially available album, no, I'm not wrong)
Green River
The Wipers
Screaming Trees
Hazel

Now we're talking.
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To be fair, there's zero chance anyone outside of the Pacific NW would be talking about grunge if you limited it to the bands listed above. So while your reductionist definition may be more historically accurate, it excludes a lot of people from the conversation. I also feel like your cut-off for including SG feels wrong from a tone standpoint, since Badmotorfinger still sounds like an evolution from Louder than Love and very different from the revolution of Superunknown.

Also, I'd like to thank the wave of talentless hacks that rode on the coat-tails of the big 4 and thus destroyed commercial rock radio for all time.
 
gutonc said:
I thought this was going to actually be about grunge. AiC and PJ? Not really grunge. I'll give you SG up through Louder than Love.

TAD
The Melvins
Mudhoney
Nirvana (up to and including, but not after Bleach...yes I'm aware that's their first commercially available album, no, I'm not wrong)
Green River
The Wipers
Screaming Trees
Hazel

Now we're talking.
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Hey, man - I'm game... some of us had to work backwards from "Badmotorfinger". I don't get the venom that people feel the need to spill on PJ, AiC, etc.
 
The big 4 did not invent grunge, but they really defined it.

I don't really like the term or the idea of putting music into a box.
Those 4 bands are so different. They really don't have much in common except for geography and time period.
 
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gutonc said:
I thought this was going to actually be about grunge. AiC and PJ? Not really grunge. I'll give you SG up through Louder than Love.

TAD
The Melvins
Mudhoney
Nirvana (up to and including, but not after Bleach...yes I'm aware that's their first commercially available album, no, I'm not wrong)
Green River
The Wipers
Screaming Trees
Hazel

Now we're talking.
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YES. Dust is an amazing record; very under-appreciated. Superunknown is one of the greatest albums ever, and I still chill out with Jar of Flies and play air guitar to the solo from "Them Bones."

I'm proud to announce that I am in possession of one of Jerry Cantrell's guitar picks. I have no idea where it went during the move, but...

What do you all think of the new AiC and Soundgarden records?
 
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YES. Dust is an amazing record; very under-appreciated. Superunknown is one of the greatest albums ever, and I still chill out with Jar of Flies and play air guitar to the solo from "Them Bones."

I'm proud to announce that I am in possession of one of Jerry Cantrell's guitar picks. I have no idea where it went during the move, but...

What do you all think of the new AiC and Soundgarden records?
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I like King Animal a lot. The new AiC has some very good songs (sounds less like a Cantrell solo album compared to last one) but with the exception of Breath on a Window nothing that compares to Dirt or Facelift.
 
OK, I'll say it.

What is capital-G Grunge then?

When I think Grunge, I see flannel. And it's most enduring (and annoying) influence was the Eddie Vedder knock-off singing. Was Alice & Chains' biggest selling album not named Dirt? OK, that was cheating, but how are PJ & AIC not Grunge?

I guess I don't know what Grunge is. Please help me see the distinction, I'm genuinely interested.
 
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OK, I'll say it.

What is capital-G Grunge then?

When I think Grunge, I see flannel. And it's most enduring (and annoying) influence was the Eddie Vedder knock-off singing. Was Alice & Chains' biggest selling album not named Dirt? OK, that was cheating, but how are PJ & AIC not Grunge?

I guess I don't know what Grunge is. Please help me see the distinction, I'm genuinely interested.
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I thought someone would have tried to explain this already...

I think of grunge to be very time and place - Northwest US late 80s and early 90s. The term grunge was coined by Mark Arm (currently of Mudhoney) when he was in Green River, which also had Jeff Ament and Stone Gossard as members. Much of the scene revolved around Bands like Tad, Mudhoney, the Melvins, Nirvana (although they weren't as popular as others then), Mother love bone (Gossard and Ament's band after Green River), and others (do Cat Butt or Blood Circus need to be mentioned?). I'm not so sure the term grunge was really used much before Nirvana got big, but once they did, the term seemed to just get applied to any hard rock bands with folks in flannels, whether or not they had anything to do with the scene that had spawned Nirvana. The term became more of a marketing gimmick by major record labels than anything else.

As far as Alice in Chains, they were never a part of the Northwest "scene", which was spawned from the local punk and hardcore scene and combining with metal and hard rock sounds, whereas Alice in Chains was just a rock band. I just think of AiC as a metal band.
 
Never been a huge grunge fan per se, but Nirvana will always hold a special place in my heart, In Utero was like the soundtrack to my high school summer days.
 
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Just saw Soundgarden in concert. First row. Against the security fences.

Pics tomorrow. I win.
 
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I saw Mudhoney a little over a year ago and Mark Arm complimented my Dicks shirt from the stage before they covered "Dicks Hate the Police". They were good, but they're showing their age.
 
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I saw Mudhoney a little over a year ago and Mark Arm complimented my Dicks shirt from the stage before they covered "Dicks Hate the Police". They were good, but they're showing their age.
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I saw them 2 or 3 years ago and, even though they still sounded great, it was a little bit slower (if not quieter) than when I saw them in a dorm at Evergreen State College before Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge was released.
 
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Ohh mann this is throwback to some great high school days

Alice in chains Dirt, self title album and Facelift
Soundgarden Superunknown and Badmotorfinger
Pearl Jam 10
STP core
Bush sixteen stone
smashing pumpkins - the double album , melancholie or what not

F'n classics!!

gotta mention white zombie in all this, although its not really grunge
 
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throckmortonDO said:
Ohh mann this is throwback to some great high school days

Alice in chains Dirt, self title album and Facelift
Soundgarden Superunknown and Badmotorfinger
Pearl Jam 10
STP core
Bush sixteen stone
smashing pumpkins - the double album , melancholie or what not

F'n classics!!

gotta mention white zombie in all this, although its not really grunge
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It hurts my soul to see Bush on this list. Also, if you're talking PJ then I'd give the nod to Vs. over 10.
 
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It hurts my soul to see Bush on this list. Also, if you're talking PJ then I'd give the nod to Vs. over 10.
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While I still own my original CD copy of "Sixteen Stone", they're decidedly alternative rock and not grunge. My best buddy saw them last Oct/Nov, and said they still "had it".
 
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throckmortonDO said:
Ohh mann this is throwback to some great high school days

Alice in chains Dirt, self title album and Facelift
Soundgarden Superunknown and Badmotorfinger
Pearl Jam 10
STP core
Bush sixteen stone
smashing pumpkins - the double album , melancholie or what not

F'n classics!!

gotta mention white zombie in all this, although its not really grunge
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All great. Add anything by Nirvana to that list.

PS: Just saw Smashing Pumpkins live a few months back and they still sounded great


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Cornell dead in hotel room. Age 52. Possible suicide by hanging.

I'm legit bummed.
 
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Very sad news.. thanks for the music Chris.

My tube amp is warming up while waiting for the painters to leave, gonna crank some badmotorfinger here in a bit.

RIP
 
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Possible? I mean, was he naked like David Carradine?
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Glad I'm not alone in wondering if this was a Carradine sotuation when I heard he was strangled. As an aside, I was talking about Cornell's death with my Dad and in-laws and mentioned Carradine's death, then had to define auto-erotic asphyxiation for them. Super awkward.
 
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Was supposed to see him Thursday. Damn it. The world needs more people that can make beautiful art, not fewer.
 
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"
MGM medic Dawn Jones arrived at the room at 12:56 a.m., the report said. “Jones untied the red exercise band from (the) victim’s neck and began CPR on (Cornell, who) was not breathing.”

EMS Unit 42 was at the scene by 1 a.m. An emergency medical technician also unsuccessfully performed CPR on Cornell, according to the report.

“At 1:30AM on 5/18/2017, victim was pronounced dead (by a doctor who came to the scene),” the report said.
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Is that how they do things in Vegas? Call a doctor to pronounce a person dead at the scene? Maybe a doctor happened to be there from the hotel? Or maybe it was an EMS supervisor because he had obvious signs of death - rigor / lividity, etc.
 
Chris Cornell died at the MGM Grand in Detroit.

The casino is right down the road from DRH.
 
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