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Apologies for what looks like double-posting but it's two separate issues.

I'm in my last semester of post-bacc classes and have my MCAT scheduled and am all set to apply and am not sure I will be thrilled with months and months of absolute silence that follows, so I'm just going to list pros and cons and if you want to weigh in, please do. I'm not looking to be persuaded either way, I just want to know if thinking I can get into a med school is delusional.

Pros: good letters of recommendation (neuroscientist/dean of the school, biochemist/assistant dean, immunologist/head of regional drug development center); won the annual pre-med scholarship last year (there are about 700 pre-meds at the school I'm at), about 140 hours of shadowing, a tiny bit of volunteering, a decent amount of grad-level classes on my transcript in various disciplines, two prior master's (MA in media studies and dual MFA in art/writing), two books published (short fiction and poetry) with plausibility of two more getting picked up soon, art shows on three continents but mostly in LA (I live in the midwest) and current arts writer; composer/tenor vocalist/multi-instrumentalist with first charity bandcamp "album" coming out this summer and composer/arranger for my synagogue, expecting to do well on the MCAT, "under-represented in medicine."

Cons: low gpa (3.83 total, 3.76 science), I'm old (40 in just over two months), no clinical employment experience, not a lot of clinical volunteering experience, no research experience despite trying very hard, not much to show for myself in EC in general, dirt poor, don't own things like car or smartphone etc., want to do research and have studied research design but haven't actually done anything, health problems (autistic, some anxiety issues), hit the federal loan ceiling so I can't take any more classes to raise my gpa, art career is currently DOA, rough life in patches here or there, and under-represented in medicine (queer, parents were janitors, father never finished high school, *dirt* poor (and once briefly homeless), disabled), bad credit (but working on it and almost repaired), don't play any sports, not multilingual (though I'm working on it), no "global health experiences," no leadership activities outside the arts, and, again, don't own a car, which several schools have said is mandatory for understandable reasons.

I've repeatedly been told by admissions counselors at a wide swath of schools that I am too old, too poor, and have too low of a gpa to be considered at all. I'm at a point where I'm willing to do the work/put in the time because I want this more than I've wanted anything, but I don't want to set myself up for failure.

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3.83 isn't a low GPA, especially for DO schools. With an above average MCAT you are looking at a 70+ % acceptance rate for that GPA range for MD alone and higher for D.O.
 
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Your advisers are *****s. Go for it. Some of my all time best students have been in their 30s and 40s. I graduated a stellar one at age 50 in 2015.

Apologies for what looks like double-posting but it's two separate issues.

I'm in my last semester of post-bacc classes and have my MCAT scheduled and am all set to apply and am not sure I will be thrilled with months and months of absolute silence that follows, so I'm just going to list pros and cons and if you want to weigh in, please do. I'm not looking to be persuaded either way, I just want to know if thinking I can get into a med school is delusional.

Pros: good letters of recommendation (neuroscientist/dean of the school, biochemist/assistant dean, immunologist/head of regional drug development center); won the annual pre-med scholarship last year (there are about 700 pre-meds at the school I'm at), about 140 hours of shadowing, a tiny bit of volunteering, a decent amount of grad-level classes on my transcript in various disciplines, two prior master's (MA in media studies and dual MFA in art/writing), two books published (short fiction and poetry) with plausibility of two more getting picked up soon, art shows on three continents but mostly in LA (I live in the midwest) and current arts writer; composer/tenor vocalist/multi-instrumentalist with first charity bandcamp "album" coming out this summer and composer/arranger for my synagogue, expecting to do well on the MCAT, "under-represented in medicine."

Cons: low gpa (3.83 total, 3.76 science), I'm old (40 in just over two months), no clinical employment experience, not a lot of clinical volunteering experience, no research experience despite trying very hard, not much to show for myself in EC in general, dirt poor, don't own things like car or smartphone etc., want to do research and have studied research design but haven't actually done anything, health problems (autistic, some anxiety issues), hit the federal loan ceiling so I can't take any more classes to raise my gpa, art career is currently DOA, rough life in patches here or there, and under-represented in medicine (queer, parents were janitors, father never finished high school, *dirt* poor (and once briefly homeless), disabled), bad credit (but working on it and almost repaired), don't play any sports, not multilingual (though I'm working on it), no "global health experiences," no leadership activities outside the arts, and, again, don't own a car, which several schools have said is mandatory for understandable reasons.

I've repeatedly been told by admissions counselors at a wide swath of schools that I am too old, too poor, and have too low of a gpa to be considered at all. I'm at a point where I'm willing to do the work/put in the time because I want this more than I've wanted anything, but I don't want to set myself up for failure.
 
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Thinking of quitting with numbers and a story like that is delusional. You have one of the strongest and most unique applications out there. You will have your pick of medical schools including the most selective.
 
Apologies for what looks like double-posting but it's two separate issues.

I'm in my last semester of post-bacc classes and have my MCAT scheduled and am all set to apply and am not sure I will be thrilled with months and months of absolute silence that follows, so I'm just going to list pros and cons and if you want to weigh in, please do. I'm not looking to be persuaded either way, I just want to know if thinking I can get into a med school is delusional.

Pros: good letters of recommendation (neuroscientist/dean of the school, biochemist/assistant dean, immunologist/head of regional drug development center); won the annual pre-med scholarship last year (there are about 700 pre-meds at the school I'm at), about 140 hours of shadowing, a tiny bit of volunteering, a decent amount of grad-level classes on my transcript in various disciplines, two prior master's (MA in media studies and dual MFA in art/writing), two books published (short fiction and poetry) with plausibility of two more getting picked up soon, art shows on three continents but mostly in LA (I live in the midwest) and current arts writer; composer/tenor vocalist/multi-instrumentalist with first charity bandcamp "album" coming out this summer and composer/arranger for my synagogue, expecting to do well on the MCAT, "under-represented in medicine."

Cons: low gpa (3.83 total, 3.76 science), I'm old (40 in just over two months), no clinical employment experience, not a lot of clinical volunteering experience, no research experience despite trying very hard, not much to show for myself in EC in general, dirt poor, don't own things like car or smartphone etc., want to do research and have studied research design but haven't actually done anything, health problems (autistic, some anxiety issues), hit the federal loan ceiling so I can't take any more classes to raise my gpa, art career is currently DOA, rough life in patches here or there, and under-represented in medicine (queer, parents were janitors, father never finished high school, *dirt* poor (and once briefly homeless), disabled), bad credit (but working on it and almost repaired), don't play any sports, not multilingual (though I'm working on it), no "global health experiences," no leadership activities outside the arts, and, again, don't own a car, which several schools have said is mandatory for understandable reasons.

I've repeatedly been told by admissions counselors at a wide swath of schools that I am too old, too poor, and have too low of a gpa to be considered at all. I'm at a point where I'm willing to do the work/put in the time because I want this more than I've wanted anything, but I don't want to set myself up for failure.

If you have a couple of free days make sure to schedule a couple of days of shadowing at your nearby hospital. This will get your foot in the door clinically, and also get you some relevant experience that will only boost your application.
 
Thanks, and sorry for the kind-of-double-post. Things are so weirdly frustrating now that I (literally) have no way of getting to the MCAT site. It's about 25 miles away; I live close to downtown in a large metropolitan area and yet for some reason the only MCAT test center is 25 miles northwest in an isolated strip mall. I don't have a car so I have a lot of fundraising to do for that but for those kinds of reasons I get discouraged.

And I have over 130 hours shadowing but it never led anywhere clinically. There's a place I can volunteer at that I can walk to but as it is I'm only sleeping three hours a night because I'm busy and have to make a couple of miracles happen. Shadowing did cement for me that yes I want to do this, though certain specialties, like ENT and anesthesiology, quickly got crossed off the list.
 
are you serious saying your 3.8 GPA is low? I mean seriously
 
are you serious saying your 3.8 GPA is low? I mean seriously

I've been told it's too low to apply by 1) admissions counselors and 2) other people here. It's not my biggest concern right now, though.
 
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