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Hi everyone,
I'm a DO student. I recently did a masters that is basically 2/3 of first year medical school and am starting into MS1 so I will have some "spare" time and I need to know what I should be working on. I know I still have a LONG time to go but I'm interested in some surgical subspecialties including neurosurgery and the integrated cardiothoracic surgery programs. I knew that these programs were extremely competitive as is but now I'm extremely concerned due to the fact they are NOT DO friendly. I've done my research and out of over 100 neurosurgery programs only 21 programs have a DO resident (usually only 1 out of the 6-12 spots considering they only take 1-2 residents per year). These are also including AOA programs that have made the merger like Carilion where their entire program is DOs. I believe only 3 or 4 made the merger. In the integrated cardiothoracic programs, I only found 3 programs that had a DO resident. I also know you can take the independent pathway of general surgery + 2-3 years cardiothoracic surgery fellowship but clearly the integrated pathway is a lot more appealing due to less years clearly. I'm a great student, however I'm concerned since my year will be the year step 1 goes pass/fail. I'm good at networking and very extroverted so I'm not worried about being likable, I'm worried about not having the other key parts of the application.
If anyone has some insight on what programs might be looking at as more important in the future due to step 1 being pass/fail please let me know. I know I need to decide on one or the other because neurosurgery you need to start working on research and getting publications basically yesterday and need to start networking in both of these regardless. Anyone who has matched in either of these have any advice? I prefer neurosurgery but the pathway to cardiothoracic surgery can be reached through general surgery which I have much higher chances at matching at where there is no general surgery to neurosurgery pathway. Either which way I would be happy with either because I love both just preference of neuro.
I'm a DO student. I recently did a masters that is basically 2/3 of first year medical school and am starting into MS1 so I will have some "spare" time and I need to know what I should be working on. I know I still have a LONG time to go but I'm interested in some surgical subspecialties including neurosurgery and the integrated cardiothoracic surgery programs. I knew that these programs were extremely competitive as is but now I'm extremely concerned due to the fact they are NOT DO friendly. I've done my research and out of over 100 neurosurgery programs only 21 programs have a DO resident (usually only 1 out of the 6-12 spots considering they only take 1-2 residents per year). These are also including AOA programs that have made the merger like Carilion where their entire program is DOs. I believe only 3 or 4 made the merger. In the integrated cardiothoracic programs, I only found 3 programs that had a DO resident. I also know you can take the independent pathway of general surgery + 2-3 years cardiothoracic surgery fellowship but clearly the integrated pathway is a lot more appealing due to less years clearly. I'm a great student, however I'm concerned since my year will be the year step 1 goes pass/fail. I'm good at networking and very extroverted so I'm not worried about being likable, I'm worried about not having the other key parts of the application.
If anyone has some insight on what programs might be looking at as more important in the future due to step 1 being pass/fail please let me know. I know I need to decide on one or the other because neurosurgery you need to start working on research and getting publications basically yesterday and need to start networking in both of these regardless. Anyone who has matched in either of these have any advice? I prefer neurosurgery but the pathway to cardiothoracic surgery can be reached through general surgery which I have much higher chances at matching at where there is no general surgery to neurosurgery pathway. Either which way I would be happy with either because I love both just preference of neuro.