Dental anesthesiologist income??

[Iwantmydds2]

Straight to the point~
How much do dental anesthesiologists make a year?
at least any ballpark ranges?
anyone out there practicing as dental anesthesiologists? anyone would like to share?

Thank you in advance

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[reapply2007]

http://www.indeed.com/salary/q-Pediatric-Dental-Anesthesiologist-l-Denver,-CO.html

Pediatric Dental Anesthesiologist Salaries in Denver, CO $137,000

 

[Iwantmydds2]

http://www.indeed.com/salary/q-Pediatric-Dental-Anesthesiologist-l-Denver,-CO.html

Pediatric Dental Anesthesiologist Salaries in Denver, CO $137,000

These online income estimates are really unreliable especially for medical/dental jobs.
Anyone who knows or is a dental anesthesiologist?

 

[Ostracized]

I've heard anecdotally that they bill $400+ per hour for the anaesthesia/sedation alone. That would be on top of any dental work. They can also opt to eschew dentistry all together and just do general anaesthetia for other offices.

 

[OceanDMD]

We had one join our practice last year. His sedation bills run $400-$1200/patient, all dependent on the type of sedation and time. He also chooses to practice general denistry as well, only on IV sedated patients. Most of the cases run over 3k/patient, so its a pretty good deal. Nothing like practicing dentistry on a sedated patient.
If you are seeing 5 patients/week with an average of 3k/patient you can easily pay yourself over 200k.

 

[dmd87]

I've spoken to one before. Essentially what he does is go to rural areas for 1 week a month, works for another dentist who has sedation cases, sees 5-10 patients a day (after all, when they're sedated you can work nice n quick). He's definitely raking in good buck (atleast he acts like he is).

 

[Iwantmydds2]

thanks for the responses

but no one seems to know its actual average income.
I've done search all over the forum on this matter and everyone says just "Good money".

 

[tabishis]

Go here:

http://www.mssm.edu/dent/education/dent_anes/support_salary.shtml

Call them and find out how much a DA makes after residency.

Good luck.

 

[TJNova2011]

Didn't one of the old mods, Bill?, do some training? Maybe he could chime in.

 

[dentyne Ice]

Do oral surgeons employ actual anesthesiologists or CRNA's?

 

[skatertudoroga]

I never heard of this career. So is this a residency that some dentists do after which they may choose to avoid dentistry alltogether and just do "anesthesia for other dentists"? Would this then be a better career than being a m.d. anesthesiologist (i understand they have a much wider scope of practice but also longer and more competitive residency)?

 

[shloopy]

To anyone interested, check out the UCLA School of Dentistry Podcast. The episode entitled "Anesthesiology As A Dental Specialty" (from July '07) contains an interview with the head of the dent. anesth. department at UCLA. I listened to it quite awhile ago, but IIRC he quotes a salary range for his graduates of between 300-400K per year.

I spoke with a dental anesthesiologist who described his job as consisting of boredom 99% of the time, and sheer terror the remaining 1%. A patient can have an unexpected and serious reaction to the drugs, breathing or heart failure, etc. Still, sounds like a nice job IF you've got the temperament, the desire, and have crazy good Board scores and grades.

 

[skatertudoroga]

To anyone interested, check out the UCLA School of Dentistry Podcast. The episode entitled "Anesthesiology As A Dental Specialty" (from July '07) contains an interview with the head of the dent. anesth. department at UCLA. I listened to it quite awhile ago, but IIRC he quotes a salary range for his graduates of between 300-400K per year.

I spoke with a dental anesthesiologist who described his job as consisting of boredom 99% of the time, and sheer terror the remaining 1%. A patient can have an unexpected and serious reaction to the drugs, breathing or heart failure, etc. Still, sounds like a nice job IF you've got the temperament, the desire, and have crazy good Board scores and grades.

What happens if you go to m.d. school school, anesthesia residency, and then want to practice dental anesthesia? Would you get the lower dental malpractice rate?

 

[PharmaTope]

What happens if you go to m.d. school school, anesthesia residency, and then want to practice dental anesthesia? Would you get the lower dental malpractice rate?

excellent question

 

[aphistis]

What happens if you go to m.d. school school, anesthesia residency, and then want to practice dental anesthesia? Would you get the lower dental malpractice rate?

There's nothing inherently magical about dentistry that makes malpractice insurance less expensive. The cost of liability insurance, just like any other insurance, is driven by factors like the frequency, severity, and expense of claims made against the policy. As you might then expect, the cost of liability insurance for dental anesthesia providers is significantly higher than that of general dentistry, but significantly lower than that for a medical anesthesiologist. One of the MD residents I worked with during my fellowship was very interested in forming a dental anesthesia group with me after residency. Maybe I'll call him up this summer and see if he still likes the idea.

 

[Demeter]

The dental anesthesiologist i use told me had 30 cases this week. 30 cases x $800 is not a bad weekly production.

 

[DrReo]

The dental anesthesiologist i use told me had 30 cases this week. 30 cases x $800 is not a bad weekly production.

I wonder what overhead is with malpractice insurance?

What's an average cases per week would be interesting to know too.

 

[rogerpc]

I just shadowed one today here at Utah.

He is earning $260/hour. He sees about 5 patients each day. So each year is about $400K.

 

[THS]

It seems like it would be cheaper to hire a CRNA for general anesthesia cases, right?
I've read that when you bring specialists into your office, they can pay you for the op and equipment and keep their production, or just take home ~50% of production. I feel like you would be able to pay a CRNA less for monitoring vitals while you do the work.
I know an endodontist that had a CRNA come into his office once a week for all of his sedation cases.

 

[Mad Jack]

It seems like it would be cheaper to hire a CRNA for general anesthesia cases, right?
I've read that when you bring specialists into your office, they can pay you for the op and equipment and keep their production, or just take home ~50% of production. I feel like you would be able to pay a CRNA less for monitoring vitals while you do the work.
I know an endodontist that had a CRNA come into his office once a week for all of his sedation cases.

Do you want to take on the extra malpractice that would come along with having a CRNA on board? I mean, sure, you can use one, but when things go bad, that is your livelihood on the line...

 

[OhioDMD]

You will also fall into a higher risk (more expensive malpractice insurance) category when you utilize an anesthesiologist or provide dental
services on a IV sedated or general patient outside a hospital and maybe a free standing surgical center (best to check with your malpractice provider).

 

[Sublimazing]

Do you want to take on the extra malpractice that would come along with having a CRNA on board? I mean, sure, you can use one, but when things go bad, that is your livelihood on the line...

I agree with you 100% if you meant "clinical" risk (as in an MD/DO would typically provide safer outpatient anesthesia than a CRNA). But in terms of malpractice costs, it doesn't necessarily matter who the anesthesia provider is to the insurance company...and often the cost of sedation malpractice in a dental office really isn't significant at all (especially when compared to the production it brings in)...and finally, it doesn't matter who is doing the anesthesia (CRNA, MD, DO, dental anesthesiologist), if something goes wrong and a lawsuit evolves, the dentist will be named by the prosecution as responsible for the outcome (it may be easier to make a case that the gold standard of treatment was provided if an MD was the anesthesia provider, but that depends more on the specific case).