Are sexual crimes common as a physician in the military?

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I aspire to become a military physician. However as a woman going into military, I'm greatly worried about going getting raped/sexually assaulted in the line of training and work. The stats of women getting sexually assaulted and/or raped and later getting retaliated in the military are horrifying. This concern is the main pressing issue that holds me back from going into military medicine. Does anyone know if sexual crimes are common within military residents and physicians, or have experience regarding this subject?

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It's pretty much a rape-a-thon here, like Mumbai on bikini day. Except that it's everyone getting raped financially and with regards to their careers rather than the sexual kind.

While a rape victim would likely not come to see me, I can at least say I am unaware of any sexual assaults occurring within the medical community that I know, perpetrated by other members of the military. It is possible they're just not sharing that info with me. However, most of the time as a physician you'd be surrounded by other medical personnel - often when deployed as well. I would imagine that the rates are lower in MEDCOM by at least -some- margin, whether you believe the overall rates or not.

I question 6%.

Anyway, you should not go into the military for lots of reasons, but I wouldn't worry a ton about this one.
 
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The "rape crisis" in the military is largely a construct of people with an agenda. Its driven by deliberately misleading surveys and bad statistical work to create and then protect an internal industry. Its a huge organization and mimics society, so there will never be zero risk but take all the stories and statistics with a massive grain of salt.
 
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I aspire to become a military physician. However as a woman going into military, I'm greatly worried about going getting raped/sexually assaulted in the line of training and work. The stats of women getting sexually assaulted and/or raped and later getting retaliated in the military are horrifying. This concern is the main pressing issue that holds me back from going into military medicine. Does anyone know if sexual crimes are common within military residents and physicians, or have experience regarding this subject?

Uncle Sam is sodomizing me everyday when I'm wearing an active duty uniform. There's light at the end of the tunnel for me because I'm about to be out of here shortly.
 
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Well if I was a woman concerned about the military's reputation regarding sexual assault, I would be very reassured by having my concerns disregarded and mocked...
 
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I'm pretty sure that all of our SAPR training doesn't lead to less sexual assault...only to more suicide.

OP...most women who get sexually assaulted are women who know the offender. Make smart decisions regarding alcohol and who you surround yourself with (especially at parties) and you will greatly reduce the likelihood of being raped in the military or elsewhere.
 
Do you disagree with me? Do you believe that a female physician faces a higher than average risk of sexual assault in the military?

I find it likely that women in general are at a higher risk of sexual harassment and assault in the military though I agree there is likely some degree of inflation. I also find it likely that there is a decreased risk with being a physician and that it probably balances out to net neutral.

More importantly, I think "I'm interested in the military but concerned about it's reputation regarding sexual assault. Should I be concerned?" is a valid question especially in a forum frequently answering questions from high school students on how to be a secret-ninja-squirrel-astronaut-SEAL- pilot doctor. Mostly, I'm disappointed to see a forum of physicians respond to the question with dismissal, slight mockery, and even a dash of victim blaming.
 
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Victim blaming? I think the advice is sound, especially given that the military designates any sexual contact while under the influence of alcohol as sexual assault.

Is there risk of being physically assaulted and raped by a complete stranger lurking amongst the connexes? Sure, just as there is a risk of a rapist lurking in an alleyway. I can't speak to whether or not this occurs more in the military than in the civilian sector but my gut says no.

Sexual assault in the military was swept under the rug and ignored for years. The pendulum has now swung in the other direction. OP, it's a legitimate concern in life, both civilian and military. As a male I perhaps am not authorized to speak on this but I don't think that it's especially a greater danger in the military despite what the damning surveys say.
 
"Rape? HAHAHA. No, no rape here unless you count making 6 figures and being debt free in exchange for a period of public service as literally comparable to being forcefully sodomized. HAHAHA. But the people who do get raped, they're just being stupid. Drinking and hanging with the guy who has rapist written on his shirt. You know the type, running around in sluttly clothes and wearing make-up."

Make smart decisions and you won't get raped? How is that not victim blaming? Nevermind that it relies on a narrative of rape that holds true for only a minority of rapes. The rest of society has realized the reality of much of sexual assault is the use of power or drugs by someone in a position of trust or authority. The message has changed from a laundry list of things women and men should not do to avoid being raped to simply telling people to not rape people and holding them accountable when they do. Not only does it make more sense, it increased the odds that sexual assaults will actually be reported when victims don't have to worry about their actions being scrutinized as a way of excusing their rape. Hopefully the military catches up in the near future...
 
It is a real, and legitimate question. As mentioned, the answer is that the statistics are probably overstated in the military. Sexual assault is, however, probably more common in the military, though likely not so much as indicated in the media. You're probably less likely to face that sort of threat as a physician, but no one has or will ever do that study.

That being said, I have no inclination to sell you on the military otherwise, as it's a crap deal that you shouldn't take unless there are dramatically extenuating circumstances far beyond debt.

There's your answer. I make fun of people for posting pretty much everything, so suddenly making this the hot button issue that should only engender straight-faced responses is not going to fly. Don't look at it as this particular question being mocked, but rather every question being mocked to its own extent. I've answered the question "am I going to get deployed and killed" with multiple levels of sarcasm, too. That's also a serious issue. The answer is the same: nope. Maybe more likely than the average joe. HAHAHA, the Army has already killed me on the inside." Tomato tomato.
 
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"Rape? HAHAHA. No, no rape here unless you count making 6 figures and being debt free in exchange for a period of public service as literally comparable to being forcefully sodomized. HAHAHA. But the people who do get raped, they're just being stupid. Drinking and hanging with the guy who has rapist written on his shirt. You know the type, running around in sluttly clothes and wearing make-up."

Make smart decisions and you won't get raped? How is that not victim blaming? Nevermind that it relies on a narrative of rape that holds true for only a minority of rapes. The rest of society has realized the reality of much of sexual assault is the use of power or drugs by someone in a position of trust or authority. The message has changed from a laundry list of things women and men should not do to avoid being raped to simply telling people to not rape people and holding them accountable when they do. Not only does it make more sense, it increased the odds that sexual assaults will actually be reported when victims don't have to worry about their actions being scrutinized as a way of excusing their rape. Hopefully the military catches up in the near future...
The poster above definitely said certain actions can reduce risk...which is true. I get being annoyed at the tone of some of the responses but you weaken your position by intentionally mischaracterizing statements.

To the OP, bad things can happen everywhere and they happen in the military too. Whether you are comfortable with risk in the military is a distincty personal decision.
 
Oh c'mon DeadCactus, be honest when you refer to other posts. j4pac said making smart decisions "will greatly reduce the likelihood of being raped in the military or elsewhere," and you took that to mean "Make smart decisions and you won't get raped"? Didn't the SAT, MCAT, USMLE, and other tests teach you anything about dealing in absolute positives or negatives? I don't think anyone is victim blaming here. Making smart decisions is different than saying: sorry, your fault you got raped

You are right; the OP asked a legitimate questions, and some answers were serious and some were much less so. But I'd like to give the OP credit that she can understand that when HighPriest says "It's pretty much a rape-a-thon here, like Mumbai on bikini day" that can be understood as less than serious.

So again, yes, you are right, rape and sexual assault are not a joking matter (I learned that from SAPR - see, DeadCactus, that was tongue in cheek), and these questions posted are legitimate concerns. I believe, though I have no evidence to support or oppose this, that being a physician in the military is more protected from sexual assault (in the military/on base - but that doesn't carry over to your personal/outside of work life) than a female on a sub (refer to the unfortunate recent news).
 
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I'm a Reserve Corps psychiatrist, so I treat a lot of MST. Here are a few thoughts:
However as a woman going into military, I'm greatly worried about going getting raped/sexually assaulted in the line of training and work. The stats of women getting sexually assaulted and/or raped and later getting retaliated in the military are horrifying. .... Does anyone know if sexual crimes are common within military residents and physicians, or have experience regarding this subject?
Sexual assault and rape is high in the military. Reporting prevalence in the military is difficult because there is more stigma to report in the military than in the civilian sector. Institutionally, the military does a lot to try to remove barriers, but individual commands can do a poor job and there is a lot of victim bashing.

Whether its overblown by the media or not is more a matter of personality and politics than one of medicine. My personal take is that MST gets a lot of light and can be sensationalized by the media because it involves veterans. But this is not unique to MST. It happens with pretty much all aspects of veteran care. Waitlist problems are sensationalized, pensions are sensationalized, GI Bill issues are sensationalized, etc.

Posters are wrong who view MST through the lens of civilian rape. While there are a lot of cases of folks who are raped while off post with fellow servicemembers at bars, folks who don't specifically treat MST probably do not realize that there is a significant amount of rape and sexual assault that happens on base executed through the power differential. So advice like "don't get drunk" and "watch what you wear" and other one liners folks tend to give rape victims isn't really applicable. Rape by senior NCOs, rape in training environments, rape within the chain of command etc. There is not a particular civilian parallel to this and it is particularly damaging to the victim, particularly when it's viewed as consensual by peers.

I know of no study that looks at sex crimes specific to military residents/physicians. But like I mentioned above, much of military sex crimes occur via the power differential. As such, women servicemembers who are officers are much less likely to face sexual assault in the military than civilians (and all military residents/physicians will be officers). And perpetrators tend to have lower education and come from poorer socioeconomic status, so my suspicion is that it would be lower in milmed than in the line community.
This concern is the main pressing issue that holds me back from going into military medicine.
There are many, many reasons to not join the military. I would not rank the risk of being raped as a filmed officer very highly on that list.
 
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What is your source for "rape is high in the military?" What is the age and socioeconomicly normalized rate for rape for the military population and how much higher is the military rate? That kind of statement is made as a fact all the time but the fact that you see these patients doesn't prove anything about the overall rate (if it did, there would be an epidemic of Crohn's Disease based on my experience). Lets see some data.
 
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What is your source for "rape is high in the military?" What is the age and socioeconomicly normalized rate for rape for the military population and how much higher is the military rate? That kind of statement is made as a fact all the time but the fact that you see these patients doesn't prove anything about the overall rate (if it did, there would be an epidemic of Crohn's Disease based on my experience). Lets see some data.
Isn't there a Crohn's epidemic? Isn't it caused by vaccines? Isn't it far more common in the military??? We want answers!!
 
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Rape is a broad term to use as well. The numbers for rape victims range from someone who was forcefully violated, someone who was sexually coerced by a senior officer, and someone who gave consent under the influence of alcohol. Are these same criteria used to compare to the civilian population?
 
I'm reluctant to wade into this debate at all. There's so little upside to saying anything but parroting the party line.


I'm reminded a little of the oft cited "To Err Is Human" study that is the foundation of the absolutely sacred and unquestioned belief by some that medical errors are the #3 cause of death in the United States.

Do medical errors occur? Are they a problem? Should we work diligently to reduce them? Of course, yes, and absolutely.

Are they the #3 killer in the US? Of course not. This idea doesn't remotely pass even casual scrutiny. Yet the discussion is framed and the (poorly done) statistics are presented in such a way that anyone who questions the "fact" that we're in the midst of an epidemic of medical error carnage is dismissed or vilified. There's an entire industry of CMS and JC and hospital safety specialists whose careers depend on this politically motivated exaggeration, this lie. They descend in coordinated, aggressive fashion upon anyone who's so callous, so careless, so awful to question the foundation of their livelihood. Indeed anyone who questions the "fact" that medical errors are the #3 cause of death in the US is a dinosaur, a careless apathetic fool who's probably responsible for a lot of those errors!

I'm an anesthesiologist; decades ago the core of my specialty was grounded in incremental advances in patient safety, and the goal of zero patient deaths. I take safety very seriously. Part of my consent spiel is to assure each patient that my primary job and focus is to keep them safe, and I'm not joking or BS'ing them. Ensuring safety isn't just my primary job, it's really my ONLY job.


The high risk and high prevalence of sexual assault in the military (and college campuses, and, and, and, name the locale) has taken on similar mystic truth status. One can't even enter a discussion without reciting a ritual acknowledgement of its pervasiveness, the way 2nd graders start their day with the Pledge Of Allegience, or the way our enlisted start their day in formation by reciting the Sailor's Creed.


I have no idea what the real risk of sexual assault is in the military. I don't know if it's higher or lower than what civilians face. (I'm not sure anyone really knows.)

I suspect it's higher in the enlisted ranks, because of demographic reasons and especially because of the rank/power structure and an indoctrinated follow-orders culture.

The studies concerning sexual assault are plagued with problems with definitions, statistics, extrapolation, assumptions, study design, bias, funding, conflicts of interest, and other issues that we wouldn't tolerate for an instant in the scientific journals that advance our practice of medicine.

But every year when I sit through my mandatory training on human trafficking, sexual assault, and related topics, the epidemic is unquestioned.

It's not worth participating in the in-person sessions because these events are intended to be echo chambers, not discussions. It's frustrating.


But here's what frustrates me most: the self-licking ice cream cone that is this industry of "awareness" has gone unquestioned and unchecked for so long that we now have a person who aspires to become a military physician - an intelligent, educated, thoughtful person - whose primary concern about joining the military is whether or not she'll be raped.

Not deployment frequency.
Not the rewards and difficulty of service.
Not training quality or options.
Not professional opportunities.
Not practice environment.
Not case load.
Not collateral duty requirements.
Not contract or commitment details.

Rape.

That's pretty sad.
 
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Want to see the "real" "Real World"? See the average experience for an enlisted service member. You have 18 years old living in living quarters side by side with the opposite sex (and same sex for that matter). But unlike college...there are less mature people, coming frequently from crappy backgrounds, and away from their family for the first time. They are young, stupid, horny, stressed out, surrounded by booze, and living like sardine with people who they can have sex with. That is in my opinion a recipe for rape.

Have you heard the story of the teaser horse? In traditional horse mating there are four parties involved...the mare (female), the stud, the breeder, and the teaser. The stud is a prize commodity...and a female horse is sometimes temperamental regarding the idea of sex. So when the female is in heat...the breeder gets the teaser horse to mount the mare. Either the mare gets successfully mounted...or it bucks the crap out of the teaser. If the teaser successfully mounts the mare...the breeder pulls the teaser out of the picture and throws the stud into the action. Your average male enlisted service members are teaser horses. They get tempted and put into vulnerable situations as stupid 18 year olds...and the military laughs as they go to prison. The military wants it both ways...and you can't have it both ways. I'm not saying that sexual assault perpetrators are not at fault...but the military is ultimately the problem.

OP...you will be an officer...a physician. Your situation will be significantly different than the scenario above. Could you get sexually assaulted, say in ODS? Yes...but I would say that your chance is much greater of getting sexually assaulted living in the dorms in college. Again...be smart about partying and you will very unlikely get raped at anytime in your life. Not to say it's impossible...but I wouldn't not join the military out of fear of sexual assault in the military.
 
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What is the age and socioeconomicly normalized rate for rape for the military population and how much higher is the military rate?
Why would you want to do that? Even if you found that the rates of rape were comparable between civilian and military populations when you controlled for enough variables doesn't reduce the frequency of rape in the military.

"The neighborhood over yonder near the projects by the refinery is dangerous."
""Not it isn't. Control for socioeconomic status, age, and x, y, z."

It's still a bad part of town.

And I agree with some of the variables you're talking about influencing the rate of rape. But identifying those variables doesn't reduce it.

Rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment is common in the military. Plenty of data out there for those interested. Google away. I don't usually get into the debate to prove the problems exist because if the debate is invited, I am pretty sure I know what the outcome will be.

It's a problem, rates are higher than they should be, but all veteran issues are sensationalized in the press.
 
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Why would you want to determine whether the rates are higher than the norms? Really? Because that would help us determine whether military culture promotes sexual violence. That seems kinda important and the fact that it is not relevant to you reflects exactly what we are talking about. When you state as a fact that rape rates are "high" that is a comparison to something. What are you comparing to? If it is an arbitrary level that you find to be an acceptable rate or zero then that is not a standard by which we can draw any conclusion about the military separate from society at large.

Again, now you claim that rape is "common" in the military" and tell me that google will prove that? I'd love to see any proof that that statement is true. I don't know that you mean by being unwilling to debate the existence of the problem because you know the outcome. I know the outcome too. People who are unwilling to debate the existence of the problem will state it as fact and make me sit through hours of training about not raping my coworkers.
 
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Why would you want to determine whether the rates are higher than the norms? Really? Because that would help us determine whether military culture promotes sexual violence. That seems kinda important and the fact that it is not relevant to you reflects exactly what we are talking about.
It's important to you because I think you might be shadowboxing here.
The poster did not ask whether military culture promotes sexual violence. When I said that rape is high in the military, I did not say that military culture is to blame. In fact, I don't think I even said that it was high compared to civilian sector, only that it was high. Wanting to compare the military to equivalent civilian groupings by socioeconomic class, age, etc. is only helpful if you're trying to isolate how much of military sexual assault is due to military culture. The OP isn't asking that, I'm not claiming that, so really who gives a $hit here and why? I don't care if the cause of MST is military culture, demographics, or the tooth fairy.
Any data on MST I pull out, you can find higher numbers and you can find lower numbers. You can also make the same arguments you will always find about the weakness of epi data. The takeaway is that folks with a vested interest in maximizing will do so based on this (see my original post, think the media and interest groups) and folks who have a vested interest in minimizing will do so based on this (think the military). The military has quibbled about the data for years by saying "it's not as bad as you think." That's the same technique done for years about campus rape as well. Truthfully, we don't know exact figures and never will because whether it's on a college campus or a military base, it will go under-reported.
I've seen a range of data on rape in the military and rape in the civilian sector and find them both too high on the low end and on the high end. Trying to toss out the baby with the bathwater by through dismissing the limitations of surveying (always an issue with epi), trying to argue the rape due to lack of consent due to intoxication or unconsciousness isn't real rape, and arguing that it's the nature of the military because of young boys in close proximity to young girls, imho, is exactly the wrong response. It contriutes to why folks have a tough time coming forward. And why we all have to sit in so many of those damn online learning.
 
It's important to you because I think you might be shadowboxing here.
The poster did not ask whether military culture promotes sexual violence. When I said that rape is high in the military, I did not say that military culture is to blame. In fact, I don't think I even said that it was high compared to civilian sector, only that it was high. Wanting to compare the military to equivalent civilian groupings by socioeconomic class, age, etc. is only helpful if you're trying to isolate how much of military sexual assault is due to military culture. The OP isn't asking that, I'm not claiming that, so really who gives a $hit here and why? I don't care if the cause of MST is military culture, demographics, or the tooth fairy.
Any data on MST I pull out, you can find higher numbers and you can find lower numbers. You can also make the same arguments you will always find about the weakness of epi data. The takeaway is that folks with a vested interest in maximizing will do so based on this (see my original post, think the media and interest groups) and folks who have a vested interest in minimizing will do so based on this (think the military). The military has quibbled about the data for years by saying "it's not as bad as you think." That's the same technique done for years about campus rape as well. Truthfully, we don't know exact figures and never will because whether it's on a college campus or a military base, it will go under-reported.
I've seen a range of data on rape in the military and rape in the civilian sector and find them both too high on the low end and on the high end. Trying to toss out the baby with the bathwater by through dismissing the limitations of surveying (always an issue with epi), trying to argue the rape due to lack of consent due to intoxication or unconsciousness isn't real rape, and arguing that it's the nature of the military because of young boys in close proximity to young girls, imho, is exactly the wrong response. It contriutes to why folks have a tough time coming forward. And why we all have to sit in so many of those damn online learning.
but doesn't asking if the risk is high in military pretty explicitly mean high in relation to something? It's a term relating one thing to another...the "another" ostensibly being civilian life
 
but doesn't asking if the risk is high in military pretty explicitly mean high in relation to something? It's a term relating one thing to another...the "another" ostensibly being civilian life
Personally, I think "higher" is the term if you're explicitly stating a comparison. "High" is qualitative and not an explicit comparison. When you say the risk of an airline disaster is "low," you aren't comparing it to other transportation or causes of death. I don't think there's an inherent comparison.

But you should ask someone smarter than me. Too deep for me. But in regards to this topic, there is data that suggests the chances of a woman being raped in the military is higher than being raped for women not in the military. But there is also data (less) that suggests the odds are lower. And with the way reporting is being more normalized and less stigmatized on college campuses, the numbers would likely suggest the odds of being raped are higher there. So go figure.
 
Personally, I think "higher" is the term if you're explicitly stating a comparison. "High" is qualitative and not an explicit comparison. When you say the risk of an airline disaster is "low," you aren't comparing it to other transportation or causes of death. I don't think there's an inherent comparison.

But you should ask someone smarter than me.


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You're plenty smart, but I think saying risk of death in air travel is low actually is making a relational judgement
 
You're plenty smart, but I think saying risk of death in air travel is low actually is making a relational judgement
Interesting. To what?


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I don't know what shadowboxing is, so I can't say whether or not I am. I think phrases like rape is common in the military should require strong supporting evidence. I think that evidence is lacking but the creation of an industry around that "fact" has made it impermissible to question.

to say that you are claiming that rape rates are high but that doesn't mean they are higher than matched controls shows just how weak the evidence is. If I told you your LDL was high, would you really think there was no implicit comparison. Give me a break.

Words like high and common have meaning and their use in this debate is incorrect. Rape is uncommon even in areas with relatively high incidence. One can know that and still believe that the rate is unacceptably high but that doesn't make the absolute rate high or common.
 
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I'm reluctant to wade into this debate at all. There's so little upside to saying anything but parroting the party line.


I'm reminded a little of the oft cited "To Err Is Human" study that is the foundation of the absolutely sacred and unquestioned belief by some that medical errors are the #3 cause of death in the United States.

Do medical errors occur? Are they a problem? Should we work diligently to reduce them? Of course, yes, and absolutely.

Are they the #3 killer in the US? Of course not. This idea doesn't remotely pass even casual scrutiny. Yet the discussion is framed and the (poorly done) statistics are presented in such a way that anyone who questions the "fact" that we're in the midst of an epidemic of medical error carnage is dismissed or vilified. There's an entire industry of CMS and JC and hospital safety specialists whose careers depend on this politically motivated exaggeration, this lie. They descend in coordinated, aggressive fashion upon anyone who's so callous, so careless, so awful to question the foundation of their livelihood. Indeed anyone who questions the "fact" that medical errors are the #3 cause of death in the US is a dinosaur, a careless apathetic fool who's probably responsible for a lot of those errors!

I'm an anesthesiologist; decades ago the core of my specialty was grounded in incremental advances in patient safety, and the goal of zero patient deaths. I take safety very seriously. Part of my consent spiel is to assure each patient that my primary job and focus is to keep them safe, and I'm not joking or BS'ing them. Ensuring safety isn't just my primary job, it's really my ONLY job.


The high risk and high prevalence of sexual assault in the military (and college campuses, and, and, and, name the locale) has taken on similar mystic truth status. One can't even enter a discussion without reciting a ritual acknowledgement of its pervasiveness, the way 2nd graders start their day with the Pledge Of Allegience, or the way our enlisted start their day in formation by reciting the Sailor's Creed.


I have no idea what the real risk of sexual assault is in the military. I don't know if it's higher or lower than what civilians face. (I'm not sure anyone really knows.)

I suspect it's higher in the enlisted ranks, because of demographic reasons and especially because of the rank/power structure and an indoctrinated follow-orders culture.

The studies concerning sexual assault are plagued with problems with definitions, statistics, extrapolation, assumptions, study design, bias, funding, conflicts of interest, and other issues that we wouldn't tolerate for an instant in the scientific journals that advance our practice of medicine.

But every year when I sit through my mandatory training on human trafficking, sexual assault, and related topics, the epidemic is unquestioned.

It's not worth participating in the in-person sessions because these events are intended to be echo chambers, not discussions. It's frustrating.


But here's what frustrates me most: the self-licking ice cream cone that is this industry of "awareness" has gone unquestioned and unchecked for so long that we now have a person who aspires to become a military physician - an intelligent, educated, thoughtful person - whose primary concern about joining the military is whether or not she'll be raped.

Not deployment frequency.
Not the rewards and difficulty of service.
Not training quality or options.
Not professional opportunities.
Not practice environment.
Not case load.
Not collateral duty requirements.
Not contract or commitment details.

Rape.

That's pretty sad.
I know I already liked this, but well stated... Worth more than a like.
 
Want to see the "real" "Real World"? See the average experience for an enlisted service member. You have 18 years old living in living quarters side by side with the opposite sex (and same sex for that matter). But unlike college...there are less mature people, coming frequently from crappy backgrounds, and away from their family for the first time. They are young, stupid, horny, stressed out, surrounded by booze, and living like sardine with people who they can have sex with. That is in my opinion a recipe for rape.

Have you heard the story of the teaser horse? In traditional horse mating there are four parties involved...the mare (female), the stud, the breeder, and the teaser. The stud is a prize commodity...and a female horse is sometimes temperamental regarding the idea of sex. So when the female is in heat...the breeder gets the teaser horse to mount the mare. Either the mare gets successfully mounted...or it bucks the crap out of the teaser. If the teaser successfully mounts the mare...the breeder pulls the teaser out of the picture and throws the stud into the action. Your average male enlisted service members are teaser horses. They get tempted and put into vulnerable situations as stupid 18 year olds...and the military laughs as they go to prison. The military wants it both ways...and you can't have it both ways. I'm not saying that sexual assault perpetrators are not at fault...but the military is ultimately the problem.

OP...you will be an officer...a physician. Your situation will be significantly different than the scenario above. Could you get sexually assaulted, say in ODS? Yes...but I would say that your chance is much greater of getting sexually assaulted living in the dorms in college. Again...be smart about partying and you will very unlikely get raped at anytime in your life. Not to say it's impossible...but I wouldn't not join the military out of fear of sexual assault in the military.

As a side note, these are the very reasons why there is difficulty in treating PTSD symptoms effectively.
 
i forget the exact numbers, but the highest risk for sexual assault are low level enlisted soldiers with alcohol involved. offender is usually a higher ranked enlisted. being an officer is apparently protective, and i'd wager physician females are probably one of the lowest victimized populations simply due to their life skills with risk mitigation.

interesting discussion. it reminds me of our sexual assault training we go to and most people just want to be over, but at my most recent time taking it there was an interesting point made. the instructor gave the (same number for last 2-3 times i've taken the class) of sexual assaults (all comers-- harassment included) at our MEDCOM. for discussion sake, let's say it was 20. he asked what we thought of that (rhetorically). someone said something to the effect of "well, for the number of employees and interactions an institution as large as ours is, that's not too bad." it's a valid point. while "one is too many" is true, simple human behavior and statistics makes it impossible to get this number to zero. they never break down the departments or characteristics of the offenders (entry level civilians? active duty enlisted? old crusty O6s? sexual assault being used as a tool against management?) to trend the data. instead, we are all at fault. you'd think the army was a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. or a roman orgy. the data is there, but they don't want to publicize it for some reason. like the suicide issue and from what @pgg and @j4pac mentioned, there are two forces at work. one is that there is an "industry" in these awareness initiatives with a lot of $$$ at play, and two, bottom line is no degree of cultural change will eliminate poor decision making in overgrown teenagers (who make up the majority of assault cases).

--your friendly neighborhood going to file an unrestricted report on the big green weenie caveman
 
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Unfortunately there are people out there who will sexually assault people...predators. It doesn't matter how much training you do...the good majority will likely continue to do it. But what the training could do is protect the non-predators from going to prison...and protect people from putting themselves in a situation that will predispose them to getting sexually assaulted.

Guys need to know that you should NOT have sex with an inebriated person. They cannot consent to sex...and their recollection of events may be highly altered. As in...they could have very well consented for sex...or at the very least was putting off all the signs...but don't remember. That's tragic for all parties involved. This isn't going to weed out the predators...but it could potentially save the ones that aren't predators.

Women (and heck, even guys) need to know that predators absolutely WILL slip something into their drink. They should never drink anything that is handed to them by someone...and they should have someone that they trust (who is not inebriated) watching their back. I remember a college party I attended with a bunch of my pre-med friends. We had five women in the group and were openly talking about sex. Four out of the five had been sexually assaulted by being drugged at a high school or college party. These weren't party girls...they were actually good girls who happened to get drugged at a party. In all cases, they didn't have someone or multiple people looking out for them at the party. If anything, the girls who aren't partiers may be at higher risk because they are naïve to the risks.
 
"and even a dash of victim blaming"

This thinking drives me crazy. Since when is reducing your risks victim blaming?

When my guys/gals are overseas, we tell them to stick together, avoid certain areas, and keep their head on a swivel. This is to help them maintain vigilance and hopefully provide some level of situational awareness. If you pay attention to your surroundings, you are less likely to bite the big one.

I tell my sailors to not get so blitzed they are unable to function and to never let their drinks out of their sight whether they are with people they trust or not. This is not blaming victims, this is attempting to reduce your risk of badness happening whether it is getting robbed, beat, or raped.
 
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Women (and heck, even guys) need to know that predators absolutely WILL slip something into their drink. They should never drink anything that is handed to them by someone...and they should have someone that they trust (who is not inebriated) watching their back. I remember a college party I attended with a bunch of my pre-med friends. We had five women in the group and were openly talking about sex. Four out of the five had been sexually assaulted by being drugged at a high school or college party. These weren't party girls...they were actually good girls who happened to get drugged at a party. In all cases, they didn't have someone or multiple people looking out for them at the party. If anything, the girls who aren't partiers may be at higher risk because they are naïve to the risks.

This is a ridiculously overhyped risk. Hate to quote wikipedia, but here it's quoting actual good-quality studies:

"One study of 1,179 urine specimens from victims of suspected DFSAs in 49 American states found six (0.5%) positive for Rohypnol, 97 (8%) positive for other benzodiazepines, 451 (38%) positive for alcohol and 468 (40%) negative for any of the drugs tested for. A similar study of 2,003 urine samples of victims of suspected DFSAs found less than 2% tested positive for Rohypnol or GHB. A three-year study in the UK found two percent of 1,014 rape victims had sedatives detected in their urine 12 hours after the assault. A 2009 Australian study found that of 97 instances of patients admitted to hospital believing their drinks might have been spiked, tests were unable to identify a single case where a sedative drug was likely to have been illegally placed in a drink in a pub or nightclub, with 9 plausible cases from within the study. In contrast, the mean blood ethanol concentration (BAC) of patients at the time of presentation was 0.096%. One study (Ham & Burton, 2005), found out of 1014 cases of claimed drug-facilitated sexual assault over a three-year period in the UK, only 2% (21 cases) showed evidence of possible deliberate spiking. A UK study concluded that that there was "no evidence to suggest widespread date rape drug use" in the UK and that no cases in 120 examined involved Rohypnol and just two involved GHB."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_facilitated_sexual_assault

Despite all the hysteria about 'date rape drugs', much evidence exists to show that the most common date rape drug is plain old ethanol - which makes the advice of 'don't be stupid when you drink' all the more important.
 
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